Author Topic: Ideal natural physique (Read 53073 times)

liberalismo · « **Reply #25 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:04:52 PM »

Quote from: james001 on February 13, 2009, 08:03:19 PM

well then you produce that physique without any aid... until you do - shut the fuck up. that size and lean condition is not attainable by 99.9% of the human population.. at all.

you must be trolling.

It's attainable, with the right amount of work. This person has produced that physique without steroids, so it's clearly possible.

webcake · « **Reply #26 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:04:58 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:02:31 PM

No. I'm just honest with myself and don't like to deny the hard work of others. You are insecure with your own physique and don't want to admit that it's possible to get to this level naturally, since it would mean that your work ethic is much weaker.
I think it's time to grow up.

Wrong on all counts.

I'm a realist.....if you think that anyone can look like this with hard training and dieting, fine.....just don't come crying to me when after 10 years of training you look no where as good as this guy.

webcake · « **Reply #27 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:06:31 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:04:52 PM

It's attainable, with the right amount of work. This person has produced that physique without steroids, so it's clearly possible.

And how do you know he is natural?

Because he says so?

lol, you have to be joking..... $:-\$

liberalismo · « **Reply #28 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:07:50 PM »

Quote from: webcke on February 13, 2009, 08:04:58 PM

Wrong on all counts.

I'm a realist.....if you think that anyone can look like this with hard training and dieting, fine.....just don't come crying to me when after 10 years of training you look no where as good as this guy.

If I were 25 years old and had 10 years of training, I could attain a physique like this with modern gym equipments and nutrition.

Unlike most people posting on this thread, I don't spend 10 hours a day on Getbig.com. The only reason people here are so doubtful is because they have no clue what 10 years of training really can accomplish, since this guy likely trains as hard in 1 month as most people here train in their entire lifetime. This guy doesn't have 50,000 posts on a bodybuilding website.

io856 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:08:55 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:07:50 PM

since this guy likely trains as hard in 1 month as most people here train in their entire lifetime. This guy doesn't have 50,000 posts on a bodybuilding website.

def a troll

liberalismo · « **Reply #30 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:09:23 PM »

Quote from: webcke on February 13, 2009, 08:06:31 PM

And how do you know he is natural?

Because he says so?

lol, you have to be joking..... $:-\$

I don't "know" he's natural anymore than I "know" Twiggy didn't use Anabolic Steroids. I'm just saying that based on his physique, I wouldn't conclude that he uses steroids if he says he is natural. He simply is not muscular enough for me to disbelieve him.

QuakerOats · « **Reply #31 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:10:19 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:09:23 PM

I don't "know" he's natural anymore than I "know" Twiggy didn't use Anabolic Steroids. I'm just saying that based on his physique, I wouldn't conclude that he uses steroids if he says he is natural. He simply is not muscular enough for me to disbelieve him.

hahahaha, "not muscular enough"? what is muscular enough, Ronnie Coleman?

webcake · « **Reply #32 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:10:22 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:07:50 PM

If I were 25 years old and had 10 years of training, I could attain a physique like this with modern gym equipments and nutrition.

Unlike most people posting on this thread, I don't spend 10 hours a day on Getbig.com. The only reason people here are so doubtful is because they have no clue what 10 years of training really can accomplish, since this guy likely trains as hard in 1 month as most people here train in their entire lifetime. This guy doesn't have 50,000 posts on a bodybuilding website.

lol, i love how you just assume that this guy is the only guy to ever train hard.

But hey, if you think that hard training dieting and "modern gym equipments" will get you this type of physique.....go for it

liberalismo · « **Reply #33 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:11:19 PM »

Quote from: io856 on February 13, 2009, 08:08:55 PM

def a troll

I've been here 7 months, jackass. I contribute to the forum. You only claim I am a 'troll' because I'm disrupting your delusional and self-centered jealous worldview.

Talk about pathetic.

liberalismo · « **Reply #34 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:13:30 PM »

Quote from: webcke on February 13, 2009, 08:10:22 PM

lol, i love how you just assume that this guy is the only guy to ever train hard.

But hey, if you think that hard training dieting and "modern gym equipments" will get you this type of physique.....go for it

I've been on Getbig long enough to know that 90% of the people here know nothing about bodybuilding and don't even look like they lift weights. 90% of the people on this website are simply attached to the feeling of being immersed in bodybuilding talk, and they interpret that as somehow making them bodybuilders. It's a case of delusion.
Most people here, I wouldn't even consider bodybuilders let alone weight lifters.

io856 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:15:29 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:13:30 PM

I've been on Getbig long enough to know that 90% of the people here know nothing about bodybuilding and don't even look like they lift weights. 90% of the people on this website are simply attached to the feeling of being immersed in bodybuilding talk, and they interpret that as somehow making them bodybuilders. It's a case of delusion.
Most people here, I wouldn't even consider bodybuilders let alone weight lifters.

good for you!

and I bet with your attitudes/beliefs you don't even look like a bodybuilder

liberalismo · « **Reply #36 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:18:29 PM »

This guy is only 185lbs in competition at 5'9!

Only the most pathetic jealous pansies would claim that a cut 5'9" 185lbs is impossible without steroids.

elite_lifter · « **Reply #37 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:18:45 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:07:50 PM

If I were 25 years old and had 10 years of training, I could attain a physique like this with modern gym equipments and nutrition.

Unlike most people posting on this thread, I don't spend 10 hours a day on Getbig.com. The only reason people here are so doubtful is because they have no clue what 10 years of training really can accomplish, since this guy likely trains as hard in 1 month as most people here train in their entire lifetime. This guy doesn't have 50,000 posts on a bodybuilding website.

I've been training (hard) for over 10 years and don't have a comparable physique at the moment, so STFU GIMP!

io856 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:19:55 PM »

Quote from: elite_lifter on February 13, 2009, 08:18:45 PM

I've been training (hard) for over 10 years and don't have a comparable physique at the moment, so STFU GIMP!

maybe you didn't use "modern gym equipments" ??

QuakerOats · « **Reply #39 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:20:12 PM »

Quote from: io856 on February 13, 2009, 08:19:55 PM

maybe you didn't use "modern gym equipments" ??

chaos · « **Reply #40 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:20:17 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:18:29 PM

This guy is only 185lbs in competition at 5'9!

Only the most pathetic jealous pansies would claim that a cut 5'9" 185lbs is impossible without steroids.

Meltdown.

liberalismo · « **Reply #41 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:20:47 PM »

Quote from: elite_lifter on February 13, 2009, 08:18:45 PM

I've been training (hard) for over 10 years and don't have a comparable physique at the moment, so STFU GIMP!

That's because you spend more time online than you do in the gym.

webcake · « **Reply #42 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:20:53 PM »

Quote from: io856 on February 13, 2009, 08:19:55 PM

maybe you didn't use "modern gym equipments" ??

Yeah, maybe he is too busy using those ancient barbells and dumbbells..... $:-\$

elite_lifter · « **Reply #43 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:23:46 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:20:47 PM

That's because you spend more time online than you do in the gym.

1.5 hours 4x's a week in the gym is enough for me anymore and, for me, i'd be overtraining. It's not all about time in the gym and if you knew anything about training you would know that!

stuntmovie · « **Reply #44 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:27:35 PM »

I don't know these guys so I can't confirm that they are natural or not but this is how most serious lifting natural guys looked back in the 60's/70's and never had any idea about competing in a BB contest. Back then these guys would compete in endurance events or various pull up or bench press contests that were held in various beach cities up and down the Souther California coast. Winners would receive a small trophy or a couple of free meals in a local hash house and braggen rights.

Most of these beach cit events were won by CP Marines or San Diego sailors who spent a couple of off-hours each day in the base gyms.

If you could bench over 300 pounds back then, you were consider a bench press champion.

But then Pat Casey came along and loaded the bar to 600, benched it - and it's never been the same ever since. That was the day the lion roared. And then sometime around 1963/64, the bulking craze got relatively popular - and bodybuilding took a drastic detour.

Good detour or bad - it's all in the eyes of the beholder.

QuakerOats · « **Reply #45 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:30:54 PM »

Quote from: james001 on February 13, 2009, 08:30:13 PM

I got to 208 pounds naturally... but with a bit of fat. you cant get the condition that guy has while holding on to size.

you haven't done it... and only a very few genetic elite could do it.

and that has nothing to do with training or diet... its just not possible genetically for most people.

size or condition - you take your pick... you cant have both in a major way without help.

like I said - you haven't... so why the rant?

brutal truth.

stuntmovie · « **Reply #46 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:32:17 PM »

2nd shot of an individual who deserves my respect. Natural or not, he accomplished what is is impossible for the vast majority.

TrueGrit · « **Reply #47 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:34:34 PM »

Quote from: stuntmovie on February 13, 2009, 08:32:17 PM

2nd shot of an individual who deserves my respect. Natural or not, he accomplished what is is impossible for the vast majority.

Is that 'Timberwolf'?

liberalismo · « **Reply #48 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:39:03 PM »

How many of you think this guy uses steroids?

TrueGrit · « **Reply #49 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:40:27 PM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 13, 2009, 08:39:03 PM

How many of you think this guy uses steroids?

"Ain't nobody gonna smile at me..rip it..com'on"