Author Topic: Ideal natural physique (Read 53000 times)

liberalismo · « **Reply #250 on:** February 17, 2009, 09:39:30 AM »

Quote from: TacoBell on February 17, 2009, 09:30:19 AM

Mg for mg, yes absolutely.

Lets see, standard dose of sd 20mg....standard dose of test 500mg .

No one in their right mind would take 500mg of sd.

Does this make sense yet? You seem to be rather 'thick' up top.

"Dose for dose" is a bad way of looking at it. They're totally different compounds. A better way of looking it would be the typical dose of superdrol compared to the typical dose of testosterone in a typical steroid cycle. Also, You're forgetting that most Testosterone users only take it once per week, so 500mg per week compared to 200-250 mg of superdrol weekly for a typical use.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #251 on:** February 17, 2009, 09:53:49 AM »

Why is it the bodybuilding side of physical culture is always so full of shit? You guys are the biggest liars. You don't hear powerlifters lying nearly as much as you guys. Why is it?

liberalismo · « **Reply #252 on:** February 17, 2009, 09:59:54 AM »

Quote from: MuscleMcMannus on February 17, 2009, 09:53:49 AM

Why is it the bodybuilding side of physical culture is always so full of shit? You guys are the biggest liars. You don't hear powerlifters lying nearly as much as you guys. Why is it?

Firstly....Doug isn't lying. His physique is so far from being developed enough for any reasonable person to think he obviously uses steroids, it's comical that anyone would.

Secondly....You must not know anything about how many World Strongmen claim to be natural.

jaejonna · « **Reply #253 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:05:22 AM »

This is a pretty decent 'natural', identity protected of course.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #254 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:06:33 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 09:59:54 AM

Firstly....Doug isn't lying. His physique is so far from being developed enough for any reasonable person to think he obviously uses steroids, it's comical that anyone would.

Secondly....You must not know anything about how many World Strongmen claim to be natural.

Powerlifters are much more honest about their drug use than bodybuilders from my experience just watch Bigger,Stronger, Faster. Strongmen? I don't follow that sport at all. Maybe you're right. Bottomline is Doug is NOT natural. He's full of shit just like you!

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #255 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:07:55 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 09:59:54 AM

His physique is so far from being developed enough for any reasonable person to think he obviously uses steroids, it's comical that anyone would.

It's not about the amount of muscle per se. It's about the look! Let me ask you this, am I a fool in thinking Sylvester Stallone looked like he juiced for Rambo II for example? He weighed a whopping 155lbs. I could give dozens and dozens of examples like this. I know a guy who juiced when he was 13 years old and weighed 115lbs and he looked juiced! Go look at the bantamweights in the NPC. Do you think they are all natural because their measurements and bodyweights are so modest?

liberalismo · « **Reply #256 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:15:31 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 17, 2009, 10:07:55 AM

It's not about the amount of muscle per se. It's about the look! Let me ask you this, am I a fool in thinking Sylvester Stallone looked like he juiced for Rambo II for example? He weighed a whopping 155lbs. I could give dozens and dozens of examples like this. I know a guy who juiced when he was 13 years old and weighed 115lbs and he looked juiced! Go look at the bantamweights in the NPC. Do you think they are all natural because their measurements and bodyweights are so modest?

Stallone admitted he used steroids, that's how we know. That's the ONLY way we know. If Stallone were 230lbs and ripped, THEN you could say he obviously uses steroids.

PumpMeUp · « **Reply #257 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:17:21 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 09:59:54 AM

Firstly....Doug isn't lying. His physique is so far from being developed enough for any reasonable person to think he obviously uses steroids, it's comical that anyone would.

Secondly....You must not know anything about how many World Strongmen claim to be natural.

Who said he obviously uses steroids? And we're not any reasonable people here, we're more reasonable, and realistic. We're just saying he's not as natural as you think he is. But then again, you're in love with him and love is blind.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #258 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:27:59 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 10:15:31 AM

Stallone admitted he used steroids, that's how we know. That's the ONLY way we know. If Stallone were 230lbs and ripped, THEN you could say he obviously uses steroids.

You are truly clueless. A drugged physique just looks different. There are a ton of signs. Like swelling of the cranial muscles, disproportionate hypertrophy of trap/shoulder area, skin texture and body fat pattern and even things small things like sweating pattern. You can tell a heavy juicer without even seeing his body just by looking at his face. BTW, Stallone never admitted to steroid use back then... he talked about using a special amino acid supplement.

Take a look at this fool. If you can't tell he's on steroids you're clueless. He's small by bodybuilding standards but there's NO doubt he's on the juice.

Same thing with Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler and numerous previous movies. Put his stats on paper and it's not obvious he's a juicer but once you see him it's very obvious.

Here's another

TacoBell · « **Reply #259 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:28:22 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 09:39:30 AM

"Dose for dose" is a bad way of looking at it. They're totally different compounds. A better way of looking it would be the typical dose of superdrol compared to the typical dose of testosterone in a typical steroid cycle. Also, You're forgetting that most Testosterone users only take it once per week, so 500mg per week compared to 200-250 mg of superdrol weekly for a typical use.

Uh what did you think those numbers meant?
Those are the typical doses used in a cycle.
500mg ew of test vs 140mg of superdrol.

liberalismo · « **Reply #260 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:29:41 AM »

Quote from: TacoBell on February 17, 2009, 10:28:22 AM

Uh what did you think those numbers meant?
Those are the typical doses used in a cycle.
500mg ew of test vs 140mg of superdrol.

I'm sorry...I'm ignoring your B.S. until you post a picture of yourself backing up your BULLSHIT claims of being "Bigger than anyone posted in this thread".

Mr. Internet bodybuilder.

TacoBell · « **Reply #261 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:29:51 AM »

Quote from: jaejonna on February 17, 2009, 10:05:22 AM

This is a pretty decent 'natural', identity protected of course.

Good looking guy right there.

TacoBell · « **Reply #262 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:31:18 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 10:29:41 AM

I'm sorry...I'm ignoring your B.S. until you post a picture of yourself backing up your BULLSHIT claims of being "Bigger than anyone posted in this thread".

Mr. Internet bodybuilder.

Thats fine, I remain not caring what you think about me, as your brutal stupidity has been full blown throughout this thread.
Your like a kid on the brink of finding out Santa isnt real, its pathetic.

liberalismo · « **Reply #263 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:32:21 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 17, 2009, 10:27:59 AM

You are truly clueless. A drugged physique just looks different. There are a ton of signs. Like swelling of the cranial muscles, disproportionate hypertrophy of trap/shoulder area, skin texture and body fat pattern and even things small things like sweating pattern. You can tell a heavy juicer without even seeing his body just by looking at his face.

Take a look at this fool. If you can't tell he's on steroids you're clueless. He's small by bodybuilding standards but there's NO doubt he's on the juice.

Same thing with Mickey Rourke in The Wrestler and numerous previous movies. Put his stats on paper and it's not obvious he's a juicer but once you see him it's very obvious.

1. I see no similarities between Carrot Tops physique and Doug Miller's.

2. Carrottop's physique could be attained naturally. I don't know if it was in his case, I don't know anything about him or if he's admitted it or what.

hazbin · « **Reply #264 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:33:59 AM »

anyone who hasn't failed a drug test is clean. even if they claim they used it they are lying without proof.

Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #265 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:35:10 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 10:32:21 AM

2. Carrottop's physique could be attained naturally. I don't know if it was in his case, I don't know anything about him or if he's admitted it or what.

You don't look like you're on steroids if you're not on steroids. So no, carrot top wouldn't ever look like that without steroids. Carrot Top doesn't need to admit to anything, it's obvious.

liberalismo · « **Reply #266 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:36:13 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 17, 2009, 10:35:10 AM

You don't look like you're on steroids if you're not on steroids. So no, carrot top wouldn't ever look like that without steroids. Carrot Top doesn't need to admit to anything, it's obvious.

Anyone with even a mild amount of muscle and definition is on Steroids according to the pencil necks on getbig.

TacoBell · « **Reply #267 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:38:54 AM »

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Van_Bilderass · « **Reply #268 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:40:30 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 10:36:13 AM

Anyone with even a mild amount of muscle and definition is on Steroids according to the pencil necks on getbig.

When will you get it? it's not about the amount of muscle!

And everyone on this thread is a pencil neck? Many in this thread have posted pics. Have you seen hazbin's pics for example?

hazbin · « **Reply #269 on:** February 17, 2009, 10:55:29 AM »

Quote from: Van_Bilderass on February 17, 2009, 10:40:30 AM

When will you get it? it's not about the amount of muscle!

And everyone on this thread is a pencil neck? Many in this thread have posted pics. Have you seen hazbin's pics for example?

remember when i said i did juice? sorry guys, i lied. i am a drug free liar. i just said i was on drugs to be cool. lifetime natural, just need help with my storytelling. i'm not bald either, i have a beautiful head of hair- i lied about that too. sorry about that

how could i be on drugs? i've never even taken a drug test to prove it.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #270 on:** February 17, 2009, 11:06:40 AM »

Quote from: liberalismo on February 17, 2009, 10:32:21 AM

1. I see no similarities between Carrot Tops physique and Doug Miller's.

2. Carrottop's physique could be attained naturally. I don't know if it was in his case, I don't know anything about him or if he's admitted it or what.

No Doug Miller's physique looks even better than Carrot Tops and Carrot Top is juiced to the fucking gills. It's not about the size of someone. It's the look muscle takes on when roids are flowing through a person's body. That extreme vascularity throughout the traps, delts, biceps, and legs is not NATURAL! Like I told your ass in another thread go flip through ANY muscle magazine from the 40's and 50's and you'll see what a truly natural phsyique looks like. But you're probably the same dumbass who will say oh well training and nutrition has come a long way!

If anything guys back in the day eat way better than guys nowadays and trained just as hard, just as smart and probably more intuitively.

kwri298 · « **Reply #271 on:** February 17, 2009, 11:34:48 AM »

Quote from: TacoBell on February 17, 2009, 10:28:22 AM

Uh what did you think those numbers meant?
Those are the typical doses used in a cycle.
500mg ew of test vs 140mg of superdrol.

The 140mg of Superdrol is more powerful than 500mg of test (IMO). Guys claiming that they are natural but have done Superdrol and/or M1T are kidding themselves, they are not natural.

MuscleMcMannus · « **Reply #272 on:** February 17, 2009, 11:42:47 AM »

this is what natural physiques look like dipshits!

http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/armandtanny/armandtanny9.jpg
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/davidasnis3.jpg
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/alexanderaustopchuck1.jpg
http://www.musclememory.com/show.php?a=Ross,+Clarence
http://www.classicbodybuilders.com/bodybuilder/sigmundklein1.jpg

Sigmund Klein was without a DOUBT a natural bodybuilder. One of the best for his era. Are you going to tell me that these Layne Norton and Doug Miller jokers are harder working? Better eating, and at a YOUNGER age stronger, bigger, and more vascular than the best of the 1930s?

?? LMAO! You guys are really morons.

njflex · « **Reply #273 on:** February 17, 2009, 12:31:37 PM »

HOW DID HAZBIN GET PULLED INTO THIS ,HE/IS/WAS A COMPETITIVE BBER AND CONDITIONED TO THE HILT ,SICK VASCULARITY.OF COURSE HE USED AND HE KNOWS HIS 2 CENTS.

hazbin · « **Reply #274 on:** February 17, 2009, 02:30:44 PM »

Quote from: njflex on February 17, 2009, 12:31:37 PM

HOW DID HAZBIN GET PULLED INTO THIS ,HE/IS/WAS A COMPETITIVE BBER AND CONDITIONED TO THE HILT ,SICK VASCULARITY.OF COURSE HE USED AND HE KNOWS HIS 2 CENTS.

i can't be a steroid user!! i've never even taken a steroid test, never mind failing one. who cares if i admitted it, i can't prove it so i must be clean all these years. man, do i feel dumb $:-\$