Ideal natural physique

[wavelength]

so stavi, are you back on the "sauce" too?

[Stavios]

so stavi, are you back on the "sauce" too?

Actually I just got off last week.

I do 10 on, 10 off

[wavelength]

Actually I just got off last week.
I do 10 on, 10 off

so you've just gone natural

[Stavios]

so you've just gone natural

As natural as the "beef" in the double bigmac I am eating right now 

[wavelength]

As natural as the "beef" in the double bigmac I am eating right now 

haha, good for you

[big man]

Not

[TacoBell]

This physique is quite natural. The problem is that people see these pictures, and they are good pictures, and think this guy is as big as the pictures put him out to be. IN reality it is just good lighting and a good pump day. Add to that the fact that Doug lives bodybuilding every day of his life and has for years and years. That IS his life.

• We've had Doug himself, and numerous people who know him personally, come on here and attest and confirm that he is natural and he is an honest guy.
• We've posted pictures of guys who were of very high levels of musculature who lifted before steroids existed.
• We have established that jealously and the green monster of envy rears its ugly head in this thread and people refuse to admit he is natural because of their own failures.
• We've established that Doug lives bodybuilding day and night.
• We've established that most people on getbig aren't even real bodybuilders in any sense of the word.
• And we've established that all of the people doubting Doug are either 1. Twinks or 2. Steroid users. And thus are either jealous because they can't get that muscular or jealous because they can't get that muscular naturally.

So what is Santa Claus bringing you for Xmas Liberalschmoe?

[timfogarty]

Pic from last month's Yorton Cup.  natural bodybuilding at it's finest

[WillGrant]

This physique is quite natural. The problem is that people see these pictures, and they are good pictures, and think this guy is as big as the pictures put him out to be. IN reality it is just good lighting and a good pump day. Add to that the fact that Doug lives bodybuilding every day of his life and has for years and years. That IS his life.

• We've had Doug himself, and numerous people who know him personally, come on here and attest and confirm that he is natural and he is an honest guy.
• We've posted pictures of guys who were of very high levels of musculature who lifted before steroids existed.
• We have established that jealously and the green monster of envy rears its ugly head in this thread and people refuse to admit he is natural because of their own failures.
• We've established that Doug lives bodybuilding day and night.
• We've established that most people on getbig aren't even real bodybuilders in any sense of the word.
• And we've established that all of the people doubting Doug are either 1. Twinks or 2. Steroid users. And thus are either jealous because they can't get that muscular or jealous because they can't get that muscular naturally.

Dude put a gun in your mouth and pull the trigger , you are as deluded as Goodrum and Silly Billy Guns combined 

[Fatpanda]

Actually I just got off last week.

I do 10 on, 10 off

any pics ?

[Mars]

[clued-up]

Pic from last month's Yorton Cup.  natural bodybuilding at it's finest

natural my ass.. he looks awesome though.

[clued-up]

This physique is quite natural.

y o u ' r e a n a s s h o l e.

[Alexander D]

the guy takes all kinds of test boosters, p-slin and gobs of other pills from shady "natural" supplement companies. it really isnt hard to believe he isn't using "real gear".

-A DUB

[The ChemistV2]

Whatever his status is..one has to admit he looks rock hard and shredded..shows no sign of water retention or gyno. If he is using something hormonal...he's probably not hurting his health too bad or screwing himself up...and he's passing the drug test. I think he's pretty impressive and most people would rather look like him than an IFBB pro. Honestly, if you could look like this guy without having to shrink your nuts, screw with your heart..shut down your test or.... look like an IFBB pro and suffer all the sides that go with it..which would you choose?

[Van_Bilderass]

Whatever his status is..one has to admit he looks rock hard and shredded..shows no sign of water retention or gyno. If he is using something hormonal...he's probably not hurting his health too bad or screwing himself up...

You should know that the compounds which don't cause water retention or gyno very often are often the harshest. Which is healthier, Winstrol or Testosterone? Which is more likely to bloat you and give you gyno?

the guy takes all kinds of test boosters, p-slin and gobs of other pills from shady "natural" supplement companies. it really isnt hard to believe he isn't using "real gear".

-A DUB

What kind of doctor is it you claim to be?

[nolotil]

one thing that makes me irritated is when people lie about natural status. i dont care if people use drugs, its up to them, but dont claim your natural if you arent. also dont like when drug users make up their own definition of natural.
further..being clean and natural isnt the same thing

as a natural limit is basically

heigh in CM-100 (or 95*..) = limit at competition body fat %


*in extreme good shape but not competition empty

[nolotil]

also wanna say thati know people they say they weight so and so many KGs as naturals but these guys underestimate how much they have to loose to be in competition body fat% or close to it.

i know a guy he is like 115kg and 190cm tall...he is very big and has a huge frame and is very strong..he thinks he will be 100kg in compeition shape (he is natural)..i tell him..you underestimate how much fat you need to loose to get down to 6-7%...not to mention 5%. he will be 90kg MAX. and that is if he mentally can handle getting smaller , which many people cant.

[Ex Coelis]

it's unsulting that I should believe he's natural

[The ChemistV2]

You should know that the compounds which don't cause water retention or gyno very often are often the harshest. Which is healthier, Winstrol or Testosterone? Which is more likely to bloat you and give you gyno?

Anavar or Primobolin in small doses for brief duration aren't very harsh and do not produce virtually any water retention. Again, I'm not convinced that he uses any of these compounds..just saying he doesn't have the look of a heavy drug user.

[WillGrant]

also wanna say thati know people they say they weight so and so many KGs as naturals but these guys underestimate how much they have to loose to be in competition body fat% or close to it.

i know a guy he is like 115kg and 190cm tall...he is very big and has a huge frame and is very strong..he thinks he will be 100kg in compeition shape (he is natural)..i tell him..you underestimate how much fat you need to loose to get down to 6-7%...not to mention 5%. he will be 90kg MAX. and that is if he mentally can handle getting smaller , which many people cant.

Truth

[BIG ACH]

I believe Doug (a good friend of mine) is natural.  Dude competes at like 185 or so, is that REALLy unattainable naturally to you guys?  and he lives and sleeps bodybuilding, takes obssession to a new level, seriously!

But I know none of you guys will believe me so whatever!

[timfogarty]

I believe Doug (a good friend of mine) is natural.  Dude competes at like 185 or so, is that REALLy unattainable naturally to you guys?  and he lives and sleeps bodybuilding, takes obssession to a new level, seriously!

you can be big naturally.  you can be ripped naturally.  but to be both, especially for any length of time, takes performance enhancing drugs.

to put it another way, being ripped is very catabolic.  to be ripped for any length of time, like he seems to be, why hasn't he lost all his mass?

[Matt C]

Ha ha natural   But I would like to take that chick's fatigues off and eat her pussy. 

Very well said.

[Matt C]

Ha ha natural   But I would like to take that chick's fatigues off and eat her pussy. 

Very well put.