Author Topic: Natural or Not? (Read 4957 times)

Method101 · « **on:** February 14, 2009, 08:56:54 AM »

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I was born on 1-1-84 (25yrs old) and have been training since I was 17 (8 years total training).

People have different ideas of whats natural, so you'll have to be the judge. (one time some guy told me he was "ALL NATURAL" and didn't take protein powder or anything like that cause he wanted to stay all natural).

But I can tell you what supplements I have taken/take so you can decide (this is my best guess/effort at listing everything I have ever taken):

whey protein (Species' Isolyze: http://www.speciesnutrition.com/orde...sp?idProduct=3)

creatine

dextrose

BCAA

glutamine

beta alanine

waxy maize

Vitamins (the standard/usual: c, e, b-complex, multi, beta carotene, zinc)

Joint supplement (Arthrolyze)

caffeine (i used to take pills before training, but now just from coffee--cheaper, tastes nice)

ephedrine (only when i really, realy need it--leg day and i feel like shit)
(a friend of mine gave me a few bottles of this to sample: http://www.ximohealth.com/content.asp?page_id=4)

weight gainer (used to take n-large2 when i started, havent taken in 7 years)

EFA supplement (took Omegalyze during last contest prep)

I used to work at max muscle so I have had samples of protein bars, no explode, MRP's and some caffeine based energy drinks.

wavelength · « **Reply #1 on:** February 14, 2009, 09:07:36 AM »

Nopes, he's on a serious waxy maize cycle.

saucetradomous · « **Reply #2 on:** February 14, 2009, 12:31:31 PM »

This again.

Natural.

Bobby · « **Reply #3 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:06:31 PM »

supernatural

all dextrose

Griffith · « **Reply #4 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:19:50 PM »

I'd say natural.
He's just being clever with the way he's posing to give the illusion of more thickness.

He's legs are big but if he's leg-pressing 400 kg's for reps or whatever, then why not?

radioflyer46 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 14, 2009, 01:25:52 PM »

Actualy vary hot!!

bodybuilder1234 · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2009, 02:18:16 PM »

Natural with great genetics
The guy had a good body before he even weight trained

3Dkiller · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:21:09 PM »

definitly not natural.

IronMagazine.com · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:24:06 PM »

highly unlikely

tbombz · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:25:34 PM »

how much does he weigh in that picture ?

tommywishbone · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:36:44 PM »

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe go fuck yourself.

just_a_pilgrim · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:38:31 PM »

Going off that pic i say juiced, but the lighting is used very well.

Overall no visable signs of juicing though (unless you want to say elevation in the traps but it's not that much) and there are freaks out there so who knows. Sometimes it's hard to tell. I would say he's not that big but the shot shows the illusion of being bigger, which is what bodybuilding is all about.

Bobby · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2009, 04:41:12 PM »

Quote from: tbombz on February 14, 2009, 04:25:34 PM

how much does he weigh in that picture ?

i think it's around 190

saucetradomous · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2009, 05:07:59 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on February 14, 2009, 04:36:44 PM

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe go fuck yourself.

The Departed was a good movie

Bobby · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2009, 05:10:14 PM »

back to the futures were great too

andreisdaman · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2009, 06:06:07 PM »

I think he's on something...looks to have good genetics and just using a little Dbol or something like that in order to cut up..back is unreal....and yes I will admit he is posing in a way to maximize what he has and to look bigger and the lighting is very flattering as well.....but NOT totally natural....

the_swami · « **Reply #16 on:** February 14, 2009, 06:41:38 PM »

200 % all natural

you cannot get this thickness, muscle seperation, density and leaness naturally

cmon get big, wake up and smell the testosterone

The Coach · « **Reply #17 on:** February 14, 2009, 06:43:32 PM »

Quote from: Method101 on February 14, 2009, 08:56:54 AM

LOL.......no!

BIG DUB · « **Reply #18 on:** February 14, 2009, 07:07:26 PM »

shopped, definately shopped..

XXXII/LX · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2009, 07:52:42 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on February 14, 2009, 04:36:44 PM

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe go fuck yourself.

Great movie.

QuakerOats · « **Reply #20 on:** February 14, 2009, 07:54:00 PM »

Quote from: Griffith on February 14, 2009, 01:19:50 PM

I'd say natural.
He's just being clever with the way he's posing to give the illusion of more thickness.

He's legs are big but if he's leg-pressing 400 kg's for reps or whatever, then why not?

880 pound leg press!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! damn that's insane!!!!

The Wizard of Truth · « **Reply #21 on:** February 15, 2009, 04:32:06 AM »

Great physique

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #22 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:01:38 PM »

great build
big legs

dustin · « **Reply #23 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:17:34 PM »

I want to think he's in the top bracket of fucking phenomenal naturals... but then the more I read about his diet I started to think he's on a low dose of gear. I don't think it's anything insane. But he is on a very low fat diet year round. Cholesterol is a precursor to testosterone and I can't believe that someone dieting that religiously all year (this is an off season picture, for him this is almost "fat") there's no way he's doing this clean.

Either way, I don't think he's on a myriad of drugs. I think he's on a therapeutic or slightly supraphysiological level of test, no other androgens. He definitely has his diet in check and knows his body inside and out. I wish I had the dedication to eat and drink as meticulously as him. He knows his body so well. Very intuitive.

tleilaxutank · « **Reply #24 on:** February 15, 2009, 12:21:26 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on February 14, 2009, 04:36:44 PM

Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe go fuck yourself.

Fucking firefighters are bunch of homos.

Author Topic: Natural or Not? (Read 4957 times)

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