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The_Leafy_Bug

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2009, 09:20:47 PM »
Good post. I think people often feel like they either have to side completely with the Republicans or completely with the Democrats. The truth is that there is a lot of middle ground, and not everything is black and white. I agree with Republicans on some things and Democrats on some things. But I don't just agree with something because it is the official Republican stance or the official Democrat stance on the matter. People need to learn to think for themselves instead of being told what to think.
Coach doesn't realize the concept of a TWO party system and wants to return to the days of Monroe. If he could have his way the Reds would have this country on lockdown and wouldn't allow any democrats to be elected. He doesn't realize that having 2 parties (minimal) is an essential element to democracy.

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2009, 09:27:32 PM »
Made a promise to my son to stop "touching" him

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« Reply #52 on: February 16, 2009, 09:29:28 PM »
Made a promise to my son to stop "touching" him
He tries will. The lord saved him from temptation of coke dealers in the past. Give him a chance. Perhaps the lord will once again help him to stop the burning urge within to play with his sons genitals.

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2009, 09:30:32 PM »
omg

Coach is hitting "Report to moderator" like crazy!  :o ;D
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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #54 on: February 16, 2009, 09:30:43 PM »
Coach,

if you were unemployed and hungry,

Would you still vote repub?

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #55 on: February 16, 2009, 09:32:32 PM »
Coach,

if you were unemployed and hungry,

Would you still vote repub?

I think his church/fox news could tell him to vote for Bin Laden and he would.
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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #56 on: February 16, 2009, 09:33:40 PM »
LOL. Well, you know what they say: No one steps on their fellow man harder than a self-made man.

I grew up on welfare in the projects, then on student loans in the trailer park, and i'm doing much better these years.

What i've learned is that by letting 1/4 of the population be poor and hungry, the world gets worse for all of us.

Those millions of ppl don't just stay in their house and starve to death.  They beg, rob, kill, and spread disease.  If you don't at least give them a step up to better themselves, you run into them in an alley where they try to stab you with broken coke bottle.

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #57 on: February 16, 2009, 09:36:28 PM »
LOL. Well, you know what they say: No one steps on their fellow man harder than a self-made man. (A religiousafying man, no less!) Jesus wept!

Funny, it's a well known fact that Repubs give far more to charity that libs. How much did you give last year?

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #58 on: February 16, 2009, 09:38:01 PM »
Funny, it's a well known fact that Repubs give far more to charity that libs.

Who do you think earns more $ each year, the average republican or average dem?



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« Reply #59 on: February 16, 2009, 09:39:13 PM »
Funny, it's a well known fact that Repubs give far more to charity that libs. How much did you give last year?
Are you sure? Bill Gates has given over 40 billion if im not mistaken. Did your republican counterparts contribute that much? Could you post those statistics roach or is it more lies? Just like you lied to the little children you hung around with as a youth minister when you told them you didn't do steroids/ coke.

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #60 on: February 16, 2009, 09:40:53 PM »
Are you sure? Bill Gates has given over 40 billion if im not mistaken. Did your republican counterparts contribute that much? Could you post those statistics roach or is it more lies? Just like you lied to the little children you hung around with as a youth minister when you told them you didn't do steroids/ coke.

Libs like Gates and Soros gave a shitload more $ than just about everyone/

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« Reply #61 on: February 16, 2009, 09:41:04 PM »
Who do you think earns more $ each year, the average republican or average dem?




Hey Rob, this also includes the rich libs. I think I even gave more that Biden. Whats your point Rob?

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #62 on: February 16, 2009, 09:42:11 PM »
Libs like Gates and Soros gave a shitload more $ than just about everyone/
Did Jerry Falwell ever do anything like that or Ted Haggard? Ohh wait... Ted was donating money to drug dealers for meth just like our friend the Coach hahahahahahahha

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #63 on: February 16, 2009, 09:42:21 PM »
Hey Rob, this also includes the rich libs. I think I even gave more that Biden. Whats your point Rob?

My point is that people who are 60 years old and worth $2.2 million are probably republicans.  People who are 21 years old and have $41.90 in their bank account are probably democrats.

I wonder which one of them donates more each year for tax-deductable donations?

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #64 on: February 16, 2009, 09:43:03 PM »
Hey Rob, this also includes the rich libs. I think I even gave more that Biden. Whats your point Rob?
Hahhahaha my sides hurt. I feel bad now, im going to stop making fun of you.

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #65 on: February 16, 2009, 09:46:00 PM »
I think I even gave more that Biden. Whats your point Rob?

Biden only made $169k as a Senator in 2008.  That's not a lot for a guy who has been a senator for almost 30 years and who knows how to run a country.  he could make way more in pvt sector.

Biden gave free speeches and all the $ went to charities.

Biden's financial disclosure returns also show donations of speaking fees to charity that aren't reported on the tax returns.


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« Reply #66 on: February 16, 2009, 09:47:12 PM »
Conservatives More Liberal Givers
By George Will

WASHINGTON -- Residents of Austin, Texas, home of the state's government and flagship university, have very refined social consciences, if they do say so themselves, and they do say so, speaking via bumper stickers. Don R. Willett, a justice of the state Supreme Court, has commuted behind bumpers proclaiming "Better a Bleeding Heart Than None at All," "Practice Random Acts of Kindness and Senseless Beauty," "The Moral High Ground Is Built on Compassion," "Arms Are For Hugging," "Will Work (When the Jobs Come Back From India)," "Jesus Is a Liberal," "God Wants Spiritual Fruits, Not Religious Nuts," "The Road to Hell Is Paved With Republicans," "Republicans Are People Too -- Mean, Selfish, Greedy People" and so on. But Willett thinks Austin subverts a stereotype: "The belief that liberals care more about the poor may scratch a partisan or ideological itch, but the facts are hostile witnesses."

Sixteen months ago, Arthur C. Brooks, a professor at Syracuse University, published "Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism." The surprise is that liberals are markedly less charitable than conservatives.

 If many conservatives are liberals who have been mugged by reality, Brooks, a registered independent, is, as a reviewer of his book said, a social scientist who has been mugged by data. They include these findings:

-- Although liberal families' incomes average 6 percent higher than those of conservative families, conservative-headed households give, on average, 30 percent more to charity than the average liberal-headed household ($1,600 per year vs. $1,227).

-- Conservatives also donate more time and give more blood.

-- Residents of the states that voted for John Kerry in 2004 gave smaller percentages of their incomes to charity than did residents of states that voted for George Bush.

-- Bush carried 24 of the 25 states where charitable giving was above average.

-- In the 10 reddest states, in which Bush got more than 60 percent majorities, the average percentage of personal income donated to charity was 3.5. Residents of the bluest states, which gave Bush less than 40 percent, donated just 1.9 percent.

-- People who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of four times more than people who accept that proposition.

Brooks demonstrates a correlation between charitable behavior and "the values that lie beneath" liberal and conservative labels. Two influences on charitable behavior are religion and attitudes about the proper role of government.

The single biggest predictor of someone's altruism, Willett says, is religion. It increasingly correlates with conservative political affiliations because, as Brooks' book says, "the percentage of self-described Democrats who say they have 'no religion' has more than quadrupled since the early 1970s." America is largely divided between religious givers and secular nongivers, and the former are disproportionately conservative. One demonstration that religion is a strong determinant of charitable behavior is that the least charitable cohort is a relatively small one -- secular conservatives.

Reviewing Brooks' book in the Texas Review of Law & Politics, Justice Willett notes that Austin -- it voted 56 percent for Kerry while he was getting just 38 percent statewide -- is ranked by The Chronicle of Philanthropy as 48th out of America's 50 largest cities in per capita charitable giving. Brooks' data about disparities between liberals' and conservatives' charitable giving fit these facts: Democrats represent a majority of the wealthiest congressional districts, and half of America's richest households live in states where both senators are Democrats.

While conservatives tend to regard giving as a personal rather than governmental responsibility, some liberals consider private charity a retrograde phenomenon -- a poor palliative for an inadequate welfare state, and a distraction from achieving adequacy by force, by increasing taxes. Ralph Nader, running for president in 2000, said: "A society that has more justice is a society that needs less charity." Brooks, however, warns: "If support for a policy that does not exist ... substitutes for private charity, the needy are left worse off than before. It is one of the bitterest ironies of liberal politics today that political opinions are apparently taking the place of help for others."

In 2000, brows were furrowed in perplexity because Vice President Al Gore's charitable contributions, as a percentage of his income, were below the national average: He gave 0.2 percent of his family income, one-seventh of the average for donating households. But Gore "gave at the office." By using public office to give other peoples' money to government programs, he was being charitable, as liberals increasingly, and conveniently, understand that word.

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #67 on: February 16, 2009, 09:47:39 PM »
Biden only made $169k as a Senator in 2008.  That's not a lot for a guy who has been a senator for almost 30 years and who knows how to run a country.  he could make way more in pvt sector.

Biden gave free speeches and all the $ went to charities.

Biden's financial disclosure returns also show donations of speaking fees to charity that aren't reported on the tax returns.



Didn't Cheney make a bunch of $$$ for his former company by screwing our soldiers in Iraq?

Isn't he going back to work for them now?

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #68 on: February 16, 2009, 09:49:09 PM »
repubs get the accountant to find out what tax bracket they're in.

Then, they give one dollar more than they have to, in order to land in the next lowest bracket.

They make $ by donating and dodging taxes.

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« Reply #69 on: February 16, 2009, 09:50:05 PM »
Who Gives to Charity?
By John Stossel

Americans are pretty generous. Three-quarters of American families give to charity -- and those who do, give an average of $1,800. Of course that means one-quarter of us don't give at all. What distinguishes those who give from those who don't? It turns out there are many myths about that.

To test them, ABC's "20/20" went to Sioux Falls, S.D., and San Francisco. We asked the Salvation Army to set up buckets at their busiest locations in both cities. Which bucket would get more money? I'll get to that in a minute.

San Francisco and Sioux Falls are different in some important ways. Sioux Falls is small and rural, and more than half the people go to church every week.

 San Francisco is a much bigger and richer city, and relatively few people attend church. It is also known as a very liberal place, and since liberals are said to "care more" about the poor, you might assume people in San Francisco would give a lot.

But the idea that liberals give more is a myth. Of the top 25 states where people give an above-average percentage of their income, all but one (Maryland) were red -- conservative -- states in the last presidential election.

"When you look at the data," says Syracuse University professor Arthur Brooks, "it turns out the conservatives give about 30 percent more. And incidentally, conservative-headed families make slightly less money."

Researching his book, "Who Really Cares", Brooks found that the conservative/liberal difference goes beyond money:


"The people who give one thing tend to be the people who give everything in America. You find that people who believe it's the government's job to make incomes more equal, are far less likely to give their money away."

Conservatives are even 18 percent more likely to donate blood.

The second myth is that people with the most money are the most generous. But while the rich give more in total dollars, low-income people give almost 30 percent more as a share of their income.

Says Brooks: "The most charitable people in America today are the working poor."

We saw that in Sioux Falls, S.D. The workers at the meat packing plant make about $35,000, yet the Sioux Falls United Way says it gets more contributions of over $500 from employees there than anywhere else.

Note that Brooks said the "working" poor. The nonworking poor -- people on welfare -- are very different, even though they have the same income. The nonworking poor don't give much at all.

What about the middle class? Well, while middle-income Americans are generous compared to people in other countries, when compared to both the rich and working poor in America, Brooks says, "They give less."

When asked why, many say, "I don't have enough money to spare." But it's telling that the working poor manage to give.

And the rich? What about America's 400 billionaires? I'll report on them in next week's column.

Finally, Brooks says one thing stands out as the biggest predictor of whether someone will be charitable: "their religious participation." Religious people are more likely to give to charity, and when they give, they give more money -- four times as much.

But doesn't that giving just stay within the religion?

"No," says Brooks, "Religious Americans are more likely to give to every kind of cause and charity, including explicitly nonreligious charities. Religious people give more blood; religious people give more to homeless people on the street."

And what happened in our little test? Well, even though people in Sioux Falls make, on average, half as much money as people in San Francisco, and even though the San Francisco location was much busier -- three times as many people were within reach of the bucket -- by the end of the second day, the Sioux Falls bucket held twice as much money.
Another myth bites the dust.


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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2009, 09:51:08 PM »
Biden only made $169k as a Senator in 2008.  That's not a lot for a guy who has been a senator for almost 30 years and who knows how to run a country.  he could make way more in pvt sector.

Biden gave free speeches and all the $ went to charities.

Biden's financial disclosure returns also show donations of speaking fees to charity that aren't reported on the tax returns.



Funny how you seem to think thats his only source of income.

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2009, 09:56:34 PM »
Funny how you seem to think thats his only source of income.

I think he made a total of 320k, he and his wife, from both their FT jobs and all stock and book profits.

That's not a lot.  And he spoils the shit out of his grandkids - has all their financial futures set up, I believe.  Personally, I'd rather my $ go toward securing financial future of my family, than some organization that'll shave 30% for 'admin costs'.

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« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2009, 10:02:02 PM »
Been in office for a month and he and his retartded congress orchestrated the biggest spending spree (and didn't even read it) in the history of the country all at the same time putting our countries security as risk. Your clueless.

That was a fair and appropriate way to sign off that post of yours, The Coach. Epic Freudian slip ;D

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« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2009, 10:04:39 PM »
That was a fair and appropriate way to sign off that post of yours, The Coach. Epic Freudian slip ;D
Who's clueless is it? dr. chimps' clueless? dr. chimps owns the clueless, now, right?

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Re: Made a promise to my son!
« Reply #74 on: February 16, 2009, 10:07:46 PM »
If possible, I will shoot some video of this.

Earlier this week I made a promise to my boy. Even though he is league age 12 in Pony and technically has one more year, he will skip his last year to play for his school next year. That being said I made a promise to him that I would work with him and try to get back in the shape I was when I played (81-83').

I'm 46 and will turn 47 in August. This training will include strength and conditioning as well as agility and the most important part.....skills. Now, this is REALLY when I stuck my neck out as well as put my foot in my mouth, I told him I would go to Arizona next year and try out in the Angels camp as a walk on. I did it when I was 20 years old. Now, I'm a realist, I know full and well I would never make it throught the first tryout, but a promise made is a promise kept.

I will be posting progressions and workouts on the "Training Logs" board. I have designed a comprehensive workout for my pro players that I will be following. One of my current clients, Howie Clark (Millwakee Brewers) will be helping us with skills as his schedule permits but in the mean time will be doing some skills with the LB St. Dirtbags. Stay tuned.

this can b an important turning point in ur life.. i am really serious.. good luck 2 bth of u..