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Afghan media update
« on: February 17, 2009, 08:05:16 AM »
I get a daily media update brief from both Afghanistan and Iraq. It provides a daily round-up of whats going on, from local Afghani and international media and should paint a pretty clear picture of whats going on. I won't bother posting the Iraqi update but will try and post the Afghan one, daily. Hugo has agreed to stickie this.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 08:08:02 AM »
DAILY AFGHANISTAN AND PAKISTAN MEDIA ANALYSIS
TOP TALIBAN COMMANDER KILLED IN BADGHIS
HALF OF GOVERNMENT-OWNED LAND IN HERAT SOLD ILLEGALLY
DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS INAUGURATED IN AFGHANISTAN
U.S. DRONE AND PAKISTAN AIR ATTACKS

17 FEBRUARY 2009
I. MOC Flashpoints
TOP TALIBAN COMMANDER KILLED IN BADGHIS
Afghan Voice Agency (AVA) Press reported that a top Taliban commander was killed along with other militants in an air strike in Badghis Province in Afghanistan, according to the U.S. military.
Forces targeted a rebel compound overnight in the district of Bala-Morghab. Provincial police chief Sayed Ahmad Sameh confirmed the incident saying Mullah Dastagir, his commander, and 8 other Taliban militants were killed during the air strikes. Dastagir’s brother was severely injured in the attack.
Cheragh Daily claimed that besides Dastagir and his commander, 10 others have been killed. PakTribune reported the commander as Mullah Baz Muhammad. Zahir Azimi, Ministry of Defense spokesman, said that these Taliban were killed in Boka village on Sunday night.

Dastagir was responsible for a surge in violence in Badghis in recent months. Previously he was arrested and under investigation by the military, only later to be released from jail with the help of influential elders’ pledges and orders by Afghan President Hamid Karzai. Some timer after his release, Dastgir rejoined the Taliban, and led 150 Taliban militants to attack government officials on their way to Bala-Morghab from Qala-i-Naw, located in the center of Badghis. He killed more than 20 soldiers of the Afghan National Army and Afghan police in an ambush.
In related news, in the Nad Ali District of Helmand Province, Afghan security forces backed by international troops killed 8 Taliban members when the insurgents ambushed the convoy of joint forces. No Afghan or international troops were injured.

HALF OF GOVERNMENT-OWNED LAND IN HERAT SOLD ILLEGALLY
Over 50 percent of government land, estimated to be 20,000 hectares, was taken over by corrupt elite in Herat Province, reports Salam Watandar. Many obtained fraudulent paperwork with the help of corrupt family or friends in government positions and now claim ownership.
8am reported that Ghulam Mohammad Rahmani, Justice Ministry representative for Herat, told reporters that the province owned 40,000 hectares, half of which is now illegally owned by individuals. Rahmani added that the government has established several investigatory committees but no results have come forward so far. Afghan Paper claimed otherwise, reporting that Rahmani said the government has taken no action.
In Injil District of Herat, the small city of Ariana has been undergoing development projects and now with closer looks into the projects it has been discovered that government land has been
illegally sold for most of the city’s construction projects. Khwaja Sultan Mohammad, a man claiming to be the owner of Ariana city is in dispute with the government, stating that the land is a family inheritance. He said that after much battling with the government, he has given up, and after court hearings the government has seized his land. Similar situations can be found in several other cities in Herat.
Ariana TV reported on additional events in Herat Province, broadcasting the Bayat Foundation’s continuous efforts to help poor and needy Afghans during the winter. This time the foundation approached refugees and internally displaced residents in need of winter relief assistance in Herat. The Provincial Department of Repatriates thanked the foundation as the first private organization to send relief winter packages for distribution among families in refugee camp in the province.

DEVELOPMENTAL PROJECTS INAUGURATED IN AFGHANISTAN
8am reported that 34 projects in the Afghan provinces of Takhar, Jowzjan and Balkh have begun, which could help 9,450 families within these provinces. The projects are divided as such: 22 in Takhar, 8 in Jowzjan, and 4 in Balkh.
Jan Muhammad Nabizada, spokesman of the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development in Takhar said the projects included graveling 22 kilometers of road, construction of 120 bridges, 3 deep water wells, 2 hydroelectric power stations, irrigation canals and flood-retaining walls. These projects were completed in 3 months and cost 25 million Afghani, of which 10 percent was covered by provincial residents and rest by the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development.
Additionally, Ariana TV reported that more than 32 development projects were completed by the Ministry of Rural Rehabilitation and Development in Kandahar, Wardak, and Kapisa provinces. The ministry officials said the projects, which cost more than $14 million, included building roads, flood-retaining walls, irrigation canals, and deep water wells. According to National Solidarity Program officials, work on hundreds of other projects is underway in the same provinces.
In Jawzjan Province, the energy department reported to have completed a feasibility study for a hydropower plant to be constructed in the province. The plant is expected to begin operation by March of this year. The plant is expected to generate more than a hundred megawatts of electricity.
Bakhtar News Agency (BNA) reported that the Ghaisya Academy of Science of Herat Province has started the Greenery Environment and Planting Program. Mulawi Khodadad, head of the Academy, said the program from the Agriculture Department will plant 10,000 decorative and fruitful plants within 10 days. This Academy has 51 hectares of land located in the east of Herat province where 1,500 students are currently training.

U.S. DRONE AND PAKISTAN AIR ATTACKS
PakTribune reported that in Surkh Pull area, at least 30 people have been killed and at least 3 others were injured during the first U.S. drone attack in Kurram Agency, part of the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA) in northwestern Pakistan . Four U.S. drone planes fired 4 missiles at suspected militant hide-outs in the Sarpal area of Sadda in lower Kurram. Fifteen people were initially believed to be killed in the attack, but after a search of the area many bodies
trapped under the rubble were located, currently totaling up to 30 casualties. It is said that the camp of Bahram Khan Kochi, an Afghan insurgent commander was in the Sarpal area and attacked.
In addition to that attack, 5 militants were killed and several others were wounded after fighter jets attacked suspected militants’ hideouts in the Mamond area of Bajaur Agency, also located in FATA, according to Geo TV. Several militants’ positions were also destroyed in air strikes. Meanwhile, security forces backed by fighter jets pounded militants’ positions situated in the Inayat Klay, Rehman Abad, Shainkot and Bai Cheena areas of Khar, a city in Bajaur. Because of this, curfew has been enforced in Bajaur Agency for the past 12 days.
II. Commentary

TEARS FOR THE DEATH OF TREES
Khawaran presents a commentary piece from Gul Ahmed Darwishi about the famous pistachio forests of Badghis Province, which the author recalls from a time when the entire province was covered by pistachio and alpine trees. Within these forests of alpine and pistachio there are many shrines which are well over 100 years old which play a daily role for the Muslims of Badghis. With the respect and superstitious fear that the Badghis residents have for these shrines, the citizens make no attempts at disturbing the woods, rather than providing them protection. The famous pistachio and alpine trees once over populated the province together, now you find great gaps in the forests as most of the trees have been cleared out by vicious forces attacking them and causing a full destruction. Badghis has not only lost the beauty of these trees but a great economic strength.
The writer tells the true story of Mohammad Hassan, also known as Shiren Sokhan Herati, who was the provincial counsel in charge of the forests and agriculture. He was known for the great love and dedication he provided to the pistachio and alpine forests. The elders of the province still remember him and speak of his stories. Shiren Sokhan one day caught a man cutting down a tree in the forest to make tools for himself, and he took the man to the city to be judged by the law for what he had done. Soon after, Shiren Sokhan announced the funeral of his son, inviting all of his friends and family. As the casket was being buried, people noticed that the cut tree was being buried. The people were confused and questioned Shiren Sokhan, to which he replied, “This is my young son who was nurtured with care and love, and a man cut him down.”

Today in the province of Badghis over 60 percent of its forests of pistachio and alpine have been destroyed. The majority of the remaining forests are under the rule of non-military armed forces, which use the forests for their own personal financial gain. Provincial Governor Mohammad Ashraf Nasiri says that within the areas of Badghis not under government control, militants burn and destroy the forests. The central government is not paying attention to the forests and as a result, the forests are facing extinction. Weeks before harvesting the pistachio trees, the militant forces come throughout the province, collect all of the pistachios and put a stop to any citizen in Badghis from earning any economic benefit from the harvest.
Provincial residents affirm that lawless militants use the trees for fire wood and cut the branches before the harvest, preventing the tree from repopulating. They believe that the government is at greater fault because no preventative action is being taken. Azita Rafat, Lower House member for Badghis has brought this matter to the attention of Parliament several times. Wahidullah Sultani, provincial official in charge of the forest, says that since now over 60 percent of the forest is destroyed, the rest of the land should be divided amongst the citizens so they can take care of the
forests. Unfortunately, citizens will not take control over the land because currently it is unofficially divided amongst militant forces.
Badghis government officials have been seeking help and have gotten in touch with a company in Spain which will provide $200,000 this year for plantation projects. The 90,000 acres of pistachio trees are within five districts of Badghis, and if government protection is provided it will benefit from millions of dollars in revenue.
The writer ends with the hopes that the authority figures bring a change in this situation and save the forests so they too can be remembered by future generations with great pride like the wonderful Shiren Sokhan.

III. Evening News
Ariana TV evening Pashto news reported that thousands of hectares of agricultural land in Kundoz and Takhar provinces remains uncultivated due to drought and lack of seeds. Officials in the Agriculture departments of these northern provinces estimate that those factors, combined with the poor economy of the farmers, has rendered about 50 percent of rain-fed agricultural lands in these provinces uncultivable. The drought conditions last year have increased concern among the farmers of northern provinces for their future. They have warned that farmers will be discouraged from cultivating more land if the drought conditions continue and the government fails to support them.
RTA TV evening Dari news reported that the security police of Takhar Province have arrested five persons accused of transporting narcotics. The press office of the Ministry of Interior Affairs said the arrested persons had placed nine packets of heroin in a car to take from Kalfagan to another area. RTA added that the case is under the police investigation.

It was also reported that in Parwan Province police have seized a number of the different types of ammunition from various areas. The security press office said the seized ammunition included 16 100mm artillery shells, 6 RPG7 rockets, 1 BM1 fire, 2 mines, and 1 82mm artillery shell. All of these were recovered and seized by the security police form Saihgard, Jabelsaraj in the center of Parwan. The ammunition was handed over to the Disbandment of Illegal Armed Groups (DIAG) commission.
Geo TV evening Urdu news reported Senior Superintendent of Police (SSP) Chaudhry Ghulam Abbas Tarar said 41 detonators, 3 hand grenades, and a large quantity of Kalashnikov rounds were recovered from a building near the Kotla Jam patrolling post in Sargodha. He told Geo TV that police had initiated the investigation into the recovery of arms.
In other news from Geo TV, the Federal State Minister for Information and Broadcasting Syed Sumsam Ali Shah Bukhari speaking at a Youm-e-Raza conference in Karachi, said Hazrat Imam Ahmed Raza Khan Bralvi’s Urdu translation of the Quran was easy to understand which helped evolve spirituality and righteousness in readers. Other speakers at the event said Khan Bralvi’s life was exemplary for Muslims to follow and added that Islam is the religion of peace, which teaches love and tolerance. Federal Minister for Religious Affairs Saeed Ahmed Kazmi also attended the conference, as well as prominent professors of universities and other religious scholars.
The ARACHNID, or Afghanistan Regional Analysis of Communications Highlights, News & Information Developments is produced daily for the International Security Assistance Force and United States Central Command. The ARACHNID provides ISAF and CENTCOM the most current situational awareness of regional reporting in the Pashtu-, Dari Persian-, and Urdu-language media on Afghanistan, as well as on relevant events in Pakistan and other countries in the region that impact Afghanistan. Email the ARACHNID Team to receive the ARACHNID.
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 08:27:23 AM »
What is the word in Iraq today?

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2009, 08:33:03 AM »
Very very quiet....I'll post anything of note.
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2009, 08:55:15 AM »
U.S. Forces – Afghanistan Public Affairs Office

KABUL, Afghanistan – The Afghan highway patrol, assisted by coalition forces, responded to a blast that killed five Afghan civilians in the Shah Wali Kot district, Kandahar province, Feb. 16.

While conducting a combat reconnaissance patrol, the coalition forces received a telephone call from an Afghan highway patrol element notifying them that a vehicle carrying Afghan civilians had hit an improvised explosive device near a radio station tower. The Afghan highway patrol and coalition forces moved to the blast site to investigate the situation. Upon arrival, the elements discovered that five innocent Afghan citizens had been killed in the explosion. Almost immediately, the Afghan highway patrol and coalition forces began taking small-arms fire from several militants. The combined force returned fire and secured the area. Two militants were killed with precision strikes.

After securing the area, the Afghan highway patrol conducted a key leader engagement with local village elders.

No other Afghan highway patrol, coalition forces or civilian casualties have been reported.

“Once again the enemies of Afghanistan have shown their ruthless disregard for Afghan lives through the indiscriminate murder of five innocent family members,” said Lt. Col. Rick Helmer, a U.S. Forces-Afghanistan spokesperson. “This is a sad example of the militants’ indiscriminate targeting of civilians and continues to prove they have no regard for human life.

“To the families of those victims, we extend our heartfelt sympathies,” said Colonel Helmer. “Nothing can replace the loss of a loved one, but be assured that Afghan and coalition forces will do their utmost to have those responsible for this heinous act answer for their crime.”

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2009, 01:09:43 PM »
Cool thanks for posting!

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2009, 03:55:40 PM »
By ANNE GEARAN

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama has approved adding about 17,000 U.S. troops for the flagging war in Afghanistan, administration, defense and congressional officials said Tuesday.

The Obama administration is expected to announce on Tuesday that it will send one additional Army brigade and an unknown number of Marines to Afghanistan this spring and summer. Officials spoke on condition of anonymity ahead of the official announcement.

About 8,000 Marines are expected to go in first, followed by about 9,000 Army troops.

The new forces represent the first installment on a larger influx of U.S. forces widely expected this year. Obama's decision would get several thousand troops in place in time for the increase in fighting that usually comes with warmer weather and ahead of national elections in August.

The additional forces partly answer a standing request from the U.S. commander in Afghanistan, Gen. David McKiernan, who has sought as many as 30,000 additional U.S. forces to counter the resurgence of the Taliban militants and protect Afghan civilians.

The United States has slightly more than 30,000 troops in Afghanistan now.

The new units are a Marine Expeditionary Brigade unit from Camp Lejeune, N.C., and an Army Stryker brigade from Fort Lewis in Washington state.

Ahead of his first foreign trip, Obama told a Canadian news organization that the United States will seek a more comprehensive, diplomatic approach to Afghanistan, where the U.S. has been engaged in war since 2001.

"I am absolutely convinced that you cannot solve the problem of Afghanistan, the Taliban, the spread of extremism in that region solely through military means," the president said in a White House interview with Toronto-based Canadian Broadcasting Corp.

Obama is scheduled to make a quick day trip to Ottawa on Thursday.



And then he took a dig at Bush. Barry better stop that shit. Alot of guys liked Bush and voted for the guy and against Obama and the dems. . He ought to leave politics out of deploying troops.
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2009, 06:22:03 PM »
"In other news, a United States military official in Afghanistan is in hot water after posting classified briefings on a popular bodybuilding website....."

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2009, 07:26:28 PM »
I'd never do that....plus its not classified. They guy who started this particular service was a guy like me, he got out and does media roll-ups like this all over the place...with a multi-million dollar contract. Plus u guys would never see half this crap because its international or local Afghan media.
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2009, 04:01:28 PM »
Thanks man, and thank you for your service to our country!

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2009, 08:48:17 AM »
Why hasnt this been updated?

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2009, 05:03:22 PM »
Sorry boys I'm TDY helping the next group of heroes headed for the dunes....I'll be back next week for a bit and then off to Korea for a month. I will try and pull off some good stuff. Incidently we're already seeing the money dry up....the Guard and Reserve will be hit hard. Obama is questioning the 8 billion for his new choppers...I think we can cut this.
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #12 on: February 24, 2009, 05:35:39 PM »
The mendacity of hope
The U.S. essentially has four options — from best to worst — going forward in Afghanistan.

By Ralph Peters


The conflict in Afghanistan is the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time. Instead of concentrating on the critical mission of keeping Islamist terrorists on the defensive, we've mired ourselves by attempting to modernize a society that doesn't want to be — and cannot be — transformed.

(Marines on patrol: What’s needed in Afghanistan is not more U.S. troops or hope./
Rafiq Maqbool, AP)

In the absence of a strategy, we're doubling our troop commitment, hoping to repeat the success we achieved in the profoundly different environment of Iraq. Unable to describe our ultimate goals with any clarity, we're substituting means for ends.

Expending blood and treasure blindly in Afghanistan, we do our best to shut our eyes to the worsening crisis next door in Pakistan, a radicalizing Muslim state with more than five times the population and a nuclear arsenal. We've turned the hose on the doghouse while letting the mansion burn.

Initially, Afghanistan wasn't a war of choice. We had to dislodge and decimate al-Qaeda, while punishing the Taliban and strengthening friendlier forces in the country. Our great mistake was to stay on in an attempt to build a modernized rule-of-law state in a feudal realm with no common identity.

We needed to smash our enemies and leave. Had it proved necessary, we could have returned later for another punitive mission. Instead, we fell into the great American fallacy of believing ourselves responsible for helping those who've harmed us. This practice was already fodder for mockery 50 years ago, when the novella and film The Mouse That Roared postulated that the best way for a poor country to get rich was to declare war on America then surrender.

Even if we achieved the impossible dream of creating a functioning, unified state in Afghanistan, it would have little effect on the layered crises in the Muslim world. Backward and isolated, Afghanistan is sui generis (only example of its kind). Political polarization in the U.S. precludes an honest assessment, but Iraq's the prize from which positive change might flow, while Afghanistan could never inspire neighbors who despise its backwardness.


Recalling failures of Vietnam


Echoing Vietnam, we're pouring wealth into Afghanistan, corrupting those we wish to rally; we're fighting with restrictions against an enemy who enjoys sanctuaries across international borders; and our core enemies are natives, not foreign parties (as al-Qaeda was in Iraq).

If the impending surge fails to pacify the country, will we send another increment of troops, then another, as we did in Southeast Asia? As the British learned the hard way, Afghanistan can be disciplined, but it can't be profitably occupied or liberalized. It's inconceivable to us, but many Afghans prefer their lives to the lives we envision for them. The lot of women is hideous, and the lives of nearly all the people are nasty, brutish and short. But the culture is theirs.

Even "our man in Kabul," President Hamid Karzai, put his self-interest above any greater cause. Reborn a populist, he backs every Taliban claim that the U.S. inflicts only civilian casualties in virtually every effort against terrorists. Karzai is convinced that we can't abandon him.

We should do just that. Instead of floundering in search of a strategy, we should consider removing the bulk, if not all, of our forces. The alternative is to hope blindly, waste more lives and resources, and, in the worst case, see our vulnerable supply route through Pakistan cut, forcing upon our troops the most ignominious retreat since Korea in 1950 (a massive air evacuation this time around, leaving a wealth of military gear).

Ranked from best to worst, here are our four basic options going forward:

• Best. Instead of increasing the U.S. military "footprint," reduce our forces and those of NATO by two-thirds, maintaining a "mother ship" at Bagram Air Base and a few satellite bases from which special operations troops, aircraft and drones, and lean conventional forces would strike terrorists and support Afghan factions with whom we share common enemies. All resupply for our military could be done by air, if necessary.

Stop pretending Afghanistan's a real state. Freeze development efforts. Ignore the opium. Kill the fanatics.

• Good. Leave entirely. Strike terrorist targets from over the horizon and launch punitive raids when necessary. Instead of facing another Vietnam ourselves, let Afghanistan become a Vietnam for Iran and Pakistan. Rebuild our military at home, renewing our strategic capabilities.

• Poor. Continue to muddle through as is, accepting that achieving any meaningful change in Afghanistan is a generational commitment. Surge troops for specific missions, but not permanently.

• Worst. Augment our forces endlessly and increase aid in the absence of a strategy. Lie to ourselves that good things might just happen. Let U.S. troops and Afghans continue to die for empty rhetoric, while Pakistan decays into a vast terrorist refuge.


A reality check


In any event, Pakistan, not Afghanistan, will determine the future of Islamist extremism in the region. And Pakistan is nearly lost to us — a fact we must accept. Our strategic future lies with India.

President Obama pitched Afghanistan as the good war during his campaign, while rejecting our efforts in Iraq as a sideshow. He got it exactly wrong. Now our new president either needs to lay out a coherent, detailed strategy with realistic goals, or accept that, by mid-2002, we had achieved all that conventional forces could manage in Afghanistan.

We don't need hope. We need the audacity of realism.

Ralph Peters is a retired Army officer, a member of USA TODAY's board of contributors and the author of Looking For Trouble: Adventures in a Broken World.

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #13 on: March 14, 2009, 06:16:48 PM »
EAST HARTFORD, Conn. — The commander of the U.S. Central Command said Friday that an Iraq-style surge cannot be a solution to the problems in Afghanistan.

Gen. David Petraeus, speaking before about 800 people at an event sponsored by the World Affairs Council, acknowledged that the situation in Afghanistan has been spiraling downward and is likely to get worse before it gets better.

In a speech that also touched on issues ranging from the nuclear threat in Iraq to pirates off Somalia, Petraeus said more resources are needed in Afghanistan, both military and especially civil to help build a stable government there.

"The secretary of defense and I are among the biggest champions with members of Congress for increasing the resourcing for the State Department and the Agency for International Development," he said.

The U.S.-led invasion of Aghanistan ousted the Islamist Taliban regime in 2001, but the militant movement has regained control of large swaths of the country. U.S. and NATO forces have been unable to reverse the gains.

Petraeus blamed the problems on a resilient "syndicate of extremists," financing from the drug trade, safe havens in Pakistan and frustration with the slow development of the country's fledgling government.

"We must help our Afghan partners create the breathing space that'll allow the people to stand up for themselves as the Iraqi people did during the awakening movements there," he said. "That also will allow the government to begin working for its people and begin providing essential services, instead of just struggling to survive."

Last month, President Barack Obama ordered 17,000 more U.S. troops to bolster the record 38,000 American forces already in Afghanistan, a likely down payment on the request by ground commanders to double the U.S. force to 60,000.

But Petraeus said a large military surge like the one in Iraq would not work in Afghanistan because there is not enough infrastructure on the ground to handle one, and because it is imperative that Afghans not view coalition forces as conquerors.

"You do need to tenaciously pursue the enemy and the extremists," Petraeus said. "But you also need to be building, and to develop, and to assist, and to help and to partner."
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2009, 09:45:14 AM »
Can anyone point to any situation in the world where the followers of islam are not complete third-world, stone age pieces of shit? There is not one muslim country that is functional, or woud be if it were not for oil. The fact that the Taliban has regained big chunks of the country tells me that the average goat-herder muslim isn't capable of improvement and being brought into this century.

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2009, 02:01:30 PM »
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2009, 08:32:15 PM »
Can anyone point to any situation in the world where the followers of islam are not complete third-world, stone age pieces of shit? There is not one muslim country that is functional, or woud be if it were not for oil. The fact that the Taliban has regained big chunks of the country tells me that the average goat-herder muslim isn't capable of improvement and being brought into this century.

Going to be a hilarious day when the oil runs out. Those guys will eat each other alive within six months.

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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2009, 04:24:59 PM »
Yup turns out u can neither eat sand or oil...and shit does not grow in the desert.
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Re: Afghan media update
« Reply #18 on: March 25, 2009, 05:21:59 PM »
Yea, but by then this country will be so entreanched in liberalism that they will just get their food for free via 'foreign aid'.