News clip reveals 36 Jihad terror camps here in the USA? (clip)

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

also, this new world/one world crap has been around firmly embedded in an elite class for so long and they're freaky serious about making it happen.  The end justifies the means for these guys.   Doesn't shock me a bit that none of these people would come forward.  They were born into and raise the ideology/goal.

Hugo, the problem is that this new world/one world elite order you guys speak about has Obama in charge now and we voted him in for change?  Having McCain in power would suite your theory much much better?  More of the same, no?

And I still just don't buy that this "elite class" (that you claim has been brainwashed) would allow the deaths of thousands of fellow Americans in an inside job in those Twin Towers?

Nazi's (brainwashed by Hitler) killing Jews?  I believe that. The Jihad killing Israeli's (or Americans) around the world?  I buy that.  Israeli's killing Palestinians in the Gaza Strip?  We've seen that.  The Shona killing Matabele's in Zimbabwe.  I have witnessed that.

But governmental Americans killing 3500 fellow Americans in the Twin Towers on 9/11?   That seems a tough sell?

[ToxicAvenger]

They should get this crap shut down right away, but I have a feeling they have something on their side... C... I... A...

What he said is pure bullshit, these guys are not protected by the constitution   Leave it up to this Christian group to be that clueless.  They have WMD and we can't do anything,  BWHAHAhahahahahahaha... Total setup, planed, inside job...  It will be some group like this that launches massive attacks and we'll hear about all the failures and you'll officially be in a full fledged police state.  fucking sheep, you guys will just take everything handed to you as gospel to the whole truth.

i ws about to say the same....we r sitting here letting it happen and twiddling our thumbs going  (and by we i mean dumbasses) o how could it happen as a rhetoric  

lemme ask you this..how the fuck could a buncha 3rd world arabs that learned (apparently) to fly planes at nickle and dime schools pull off 911 when 40 yrs ago we had computers in this country that could track a terabytes worth of info globally / second and record any convo on this planet focusing on key words like "bomb" or "jihad" etc...and we can bring iraq down on its knees in under 24 hours   but we cant stop a few jihad schools here in the US


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terabyte


fucking sheep i tell ya  

[ToxicAvenger]

then why would set-ups like this go unchanged?

hey Grant mate..long time..Toxic here..

anyhow..ya prolly wont watch this...its dry..but this is my take on it


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574387786893863155&ei=uRifSZPUGZTWqALt5t3XDw&q=secret+govt&hl=en

btw..this guy in the vid is dead now...



http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/cooper_update.htm

[ToxicAvenger]

  All so our government could invade Iraq and secure better gas prices for us at the gas station??

u  make  the invasion of Iraq sound so trivial mang lol..i can almost picture you shrug as ya typed that...



seriously mate ..you didn't also buy the " only a few civillian casualties" "our bombs only killed the bad people" line didcha?


how about this for conspiracy theories...ex dead prime minister of pakistan benazir is dead within 2 weeks of saying on UK teli that osama ws murdered and is already dead

below is the video ...why did this NOT make news in the US...i mean bush did declare paki as a friend nation yes? A world leader and a friend in the fight against terrorism says that and it goes unnoticed?? 

little homeless kids on the streets of pakistan know that osama ws in renal faliure...i dont think caves have dylasis machines

[Option D]

Everyone needs to understand that the president is a USELESS figure who takes his orders from HIGHER UPS....In order to understand what is happening in america and the world one must first understand the system that is government. It should be obvious now that america is NOT a democracy. It should be clear that BIG BUSINESS and INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE run america...not a president. Obama has said/promised much before he was actually made president...NONE OF IT WILL HAPPEN. His agenda will be what those who he answers to say it is...just like George Bush and every president before him. Does anyone really think George Bush had anything in his head other than the thought of the next swig of Jack Daniels??? He was told what to say, what to do, and how to say or do it. He (now Obama is being used) is bringing into being the type of world those influential people and big business wants. Senior Bush called it a New World Order. It is a term that was around long before senior Bush, so that informs everyone how long these persons and businesses have been in power bringing what they want into being. The masses have no say and can do nothing about it. To add justifications to their actions these influential people plan terrorist attacks, wars, propaganda, they control the media, the news, opinions, mindsets and they use it to their advantage. When the war was needed to justify stealing Iraqs oil...a staged event was orchestrated, the world trade was controlled demolitioned, pentagon hit with a missile and the media used to propagate LIES AND DECEIT to justify war. Here we are again with a orchestrated financial meltdown, mortgage meltdown, incompetence in government(deliberate) and a world wide disaster in the financial markets neext will be riots over money as banks close, food riots as stores close, job riots as more industries close then mass chaos...all orchestrated to serve a purpose.

paragraphs please

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

hey Grant mate..long time..Toxic here..
anyhow..ya prolly wont watch this...its dry..but this is my take on it

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574387786893863155&ei=uRifSZPUGZTWqALt5t3XDw&q=secret+govt&hl=en

btw..this guy in the vid is dead now...

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/cooper_update.htm

Hey Toxie!  I must definitely WILL watch this.  Besides .... you are Pakistani right?  So I want to hear all views on this issue!

(Watching the West Indies play England in cricket?)

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

u  make  the invasion of Iraq sound so trivial mang lol ..i can almost picture you shrug as ya typed that...

No Toxie...I don't believe that invading Iraq is trivial to the powers-that-be .... the same people that pulled the strings on Bush ... (and now on Obama).  It's very important to them.

What I meant was ...that although the oil issue to so important to the-powers-that-be in this country .... to the common person at the gas tank (like you or me) it seems gas prices are far more trivial than needing to kill 3500 innocent Americans in the Twin Towers, etc, to secure good oil prices ....  whether we allowed Bin Laden to do it (despite having all CIA intellegence on his plans) .... or our CIA setting it up from the the inside?

What I was asking Hugo, and SAMSON, was ..... is how can a couple of hundred of "inside" people conduct such a travesty (on their average salaries paid for with our taxes) against the American public on 9/11 ...... and no-one ever come forward with a confession of this?


Not one soul involved in this, with an ounce of guilt, will come forward?????

[ToxicAvenger]

Hey Toxie!  I must definitely WILL watch this.  Besides .... you are Pakistani right?  So I want to hear all views on this issue!

well you'll be the first then mate...remember i dont believe in this stuff as an absolute...only a possibility...

and that'll be EX paki mang! 

Watching the West Indies play England in cricket?)

i live in Maryland man...ya gotta pay an arm n a leg to watch cric on satellite here mate, and even then with the time difference ya end up having to wake up at some wierd hour to watch a game you wont e able to catch the end of 

wish America had a cricket team

[ToxicAvenger]

No Toxie...I don't believe that invading Iraq is trivial to the powers-that-be .... the same people that pulled the strings on Bush ... (and now on Obama).  It's very important to them.

What I meant was ...that although the oil issue to so important to the-powers-that-be in this country .... to the common person at the gas tank (like you or me) it seems gas prices are far more trivial than needing to kill 3500 innocent Americans in the Twin Towers, etc, to secure good oil prices ....  whether we allowed Bin Laden to do it (despite having all CIA intellegence on his plans) .... or our CIA setting it up from the the inside?

What I was asking Hugo, and SAMSON, was ..... is how can a couple of hundred of "inside" people conduct such a travesty (on their average salaries paid for with our taxes) against the American public on 9/11 ...... and no-one ever come forward with a confession of this?


Not one soul involved in this, with an ounce of guilt, will come forward??

firstly , i dont think these folks have an ounce of guilt...nor will we hear a confession...

hell such would be un imaginable in Pakistan (ie confessions and guilt) and pakistan is a 3rd world poor country...
 can you fathom to even assume how much better controlled such an industry would be in the US??

i really dont think they give a shit about 3500 people.....you must be a nice dood that such a though is incomprehensibly unfathomable to you but such people do exist...

history has proven that time n again

[Hugo Chavez]

Hugo, the problem is that this new world/one world elite order you guys speak about has Obama in charge now and we voted him in for change?  Having McCain in power would suite your theory much much better?  More of the same, no?

And I still just don't buy that this "elite class" (that you claim has been brainwashed) would allow the deaths of thousands of fellow Americans in an inside job in those Twin Towers?

Nazi's (brainwashed by Hitler) killing Jews?  I believe that. The Jihad killing Israeli's (or Americans) around the world?  I buy that.  Israeli's killing Palestinians in the Gaza Strip?  We've seen that.  The Shona killing Matabele's in Zimbabwe.  I have witnessed that.

But governmental Americans killing 3500 fellow Americans in the Twin Towers on 9/11?   That seems a tough sell?

how'd that work out for Kennedy after he set movements in motion to shut the psycho element down?

[MB_722]

They should get this crap shut down right away, but I have a feeling they have something on their side... C... I... A...

What he said is pure bullshit, these guys are not protected by the constitution   Leave it up to this Christian group to be that clueless.  They have WMD and we can't do anything,  BWHAHAhahahahahahaha... Total setup, planed, inside job...  It will be some group like this that launches massive attacks and we'll hear about all the failures and you'll officially be in a full fledged police state.  fucking sheep, you guys will just take everything handed to you as gospel to the whole truth.

Great post. 

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

how'd that work out for Kennedy after he set movements in motion to shut the psycho element down?

JFK????   So.... an intelligent man-of-change like Obama ... who you voted for... is gonna catch a slug to the head and another through his back while he is parading through Texas with his wife on National TV?

For one..... They don't parade in open air 1964 Lincoln Continentals anymore .......?

And for two .... who would shoot and kill a man we all love  .... the man-of-change????

Crazy talk, Hugo?

[Hugo Chavez]

JFK?   So.... an intelligent man-of-change like Obama ... who you voted for... is gonna catch a slug to the head and another through his back while he is parading through Texas with his wife on National TV?

For one..... They don't parade in open air 1964 Lincoln Continentals anymore .......?

And for two .... who would shoot and kill a man we all love  .... the man-of-change?

Crazy talk, Hugo?

you missed the point. 

[Mr. Zimbabwe]

Hugo ...... I'm just asking you to explain it better to me......

Don't talk in riddles .... the CIA is not watching us at Getbig?

[240 is Back]

Rob, I am glad you joined us.  I wanted to get your feed-back on this issue.  Can you throw in your 2 cents on these Jihad camps?  I want to hear it.

Yes.

if they were real, the govt would have shut them down already.  A kid mentions something stupid on a message board and they swarm his ass.  You're telling me dudes are running around scremaing about juhad for the cameras and feds can't stop them?

Right.

Dude, it's FOX.  I watch it every day.  They overdramatize things.  Countless times, they'll show some nutjob pondering something and report it as news.  They frequently use supposition to try to drum up a story.  Remember when the FOX anchor said "handshake with wife, or SECRET TERRORIST FIST BUMP?"  WTF was that?  They make shit sound a lot worse than it really is for the sake of sensationalism.  FOX has been cause 2-3 weeks ago actually using the Republican Party talking points - including typos - as their news stories.  I like FOX a lot, because I recognize it's a party mouthpiece for the GOP.

Grant, you're a smart guy, but come on here... both libs and repubs do the same thing - act like drama queen bitches about things.  People with common sense are in the middle. 

[24KT]

Hugo, the problem is that this new world/one world elite order you guys speak about has Obama in charge now and we voted him in for change?  Having McCain in power would suite your theory much much better?  More of the same, no?

And I still just don't buy that this "elite class" (that you claim has been brainwashed) would allow the deaths of thousands of fellow Americans in an inside job in those Twin Towers?

Nazi's (brainwashed by Hitler) killing Jews?  I believe that. The Jihad killing Israeli's (or Americans) around the world?  I buy that.  Israeli's killing Palestinians in the Gaza Strip?  We've seen that.  The Shona killing Matabele's in Zimbabwe.  I have witnessed that.

But governmental Americans killing 3500 fellow Americans in the Twin Towers on 9/11?   That seems a tough sell?

Why? All ego & narcissism aside...are American's somehow more intrinsically intelligent than Germans, Palestinians, Israeli's or Zimbabweans? Seems to me history has shown us over & over again, that when powerful entities within a country attempt to incite "genocidal patriotism" within their populace, they often meet with some degree of success. Granted it does require a certain amount of arrogance & hubris, ...but that's something the US hasn't really been in short supply of these past 8 years.