I'll be onstage competing again in 3 months (definite)

[drkaje]

No place to go but up from there.

[Vince B]

Melvin, you are a hoot. Keep being your serious self. As you know some of us go to a lot of trouble to entertain the fellas here. You keep providing the fodder!
 

[kiwiol]

No place to go but up from there.

Hahaha Melvin Vs Vince reminds me of the tagline from (funnily enough) Alien vs Predator - whoever wins, we lose!

[Vince B]

Thank goodness there is only one Vince G CSN MFT! The guy is an internet legend!

[elite_lifter]

STFU Vince, Melvin may look like shit but he can change that you are a piece of shit and that will never change. My guess is that in a year or so your old body will give and you will be dead and buried and no one will give a shit.

[Vince B]

This Vince G takes his posing seriously. There he was doing all the fancy movements but had little visible muscle to show!

[disturbia]

STFU Vince, Melvin may look like shit but he can change that you are a piece of shit and that will never change. My guess is that in a year or so your old body will give and you will be dead and buried and no one will give a shit.

im not one to support Goodrum normally, but I agree here. Go kill yourself Basile, oh wait at your age its not that far away anyways. Fuckin loser

[kiwiol]

Leave it to the floatsam in Getbig to overlook the hilarity in seeing someone like Melvin making a fool of himself publicly and choosing to bash instead. Here is Melvin looking like a bloke who has never seen the inside of a gym posing away like he is on the Mr Olympia stage. Would even his Queen Vissy think he looks good there? I seriously doubt it.

People like Melvin are the reason why I visit Getbig, although most of the nameless people here are just as funny in their own way I guess. I mean, where else would you find a sad bunch of people who laugh at people suffering from obesity?

Goes to show it takes all sorts to make the world go around. Anyway, let's get back on track to looking at what Melvin normally looks like when he chooses to display his physique. I have no funerals to crash and the IFBB's puppet isn't here to wind me up, so I might as well post more pictures of Melvin that I have spent the whole afternoon extracting from a video clip

[disturbia]

Basile--serious question--how does it feel knowing people would laugh at and applaud your death?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Leave it to the floatsam in Getbig to overlook the hilarity in seeing someone like Melvin making a fool of himself publicly and choosing to bash instead. Here is Melvin looking like a bloke who has never seen the inside of a gym posing away like he is on the Mr Olympia stage. Would even his Queen Vissy think he looks good there? I seriously doubt it.

People like Melvin are the reason why I visit Getbig, although most of the nameless people here are just as funny in their own way I guess. I mean, where else would you find a sad bunch of people who laugh at people suffering from obesity?

Goes to show it takes all sorts to make the world go around. Anyway, let's get back on track to looking at what Melvin normally looks like when he chooses to display his physique. I have no funerals to crash and the IFBB's puppet isn't here to wind me up, so I might as well post more pictures of Melvin that I have spent the whole afternoon extracting from a video clip

You spent your whole afternoon  extracting pictures of me???  Don't you have that pink colored gym to run or invent some new equipment??? 

You're over 70 years old and you're spending your time extracting pictures of me from a video from 2006?   

[onlyme]

Vince is actually right about personal training being the wave of the future.

Anyone who has been in a gym in the past few years could see that.  It isn't something he discovered.  Personal Training is the #2 source of revenue for a gym after memberships. 

[kiwiol]

You spent your whole afternoon  extracting pictures of me???  Don't you have that pink colored gym to run or invent some new equipment??? 

You're over 70 years old and you're spending your time extracting pictures of me from a video from 2006?   

Hahaha hey Vince, that is MY post you are quoting - I was doing a parody of Basile just for a laugh (2nd one in this thread, including the one in the page before).

Looks like I succeeded

[onlyme]

Oh yeah, a lot trainers can charge less because they can keep all of the money the make rather than pay the gym.  And since exercise equipment doesn't use electricity, your operational cost are much better.  People are nowadays wanting more specialized and discrete training and the personal training studios offer it.

Better yet, some of them are getting their massage therapy licenses and are changing it to a wellness center. Add a small room and a table and you have an extra source of income

WHat place lets the PT's keep all the money.  The have to be charged with rent or something.  Personal Trainers who don't pay the gym and train people on their put the gym at risk for injury law suits.  ANY PT who trains anyone and is not paying the gym a rental fee or percentage should be kicked out.  All that has to happen is the client getting injured and sues the gym because they understood the PT worked for or under the gym.  Equipment gets wear and tear from every person who uses it.  And, most personal trainers have their clients do some kind of cardio using the machines.  Also, clients take showers, use the restroom, paper towels, put wear and tear on the flooring.  Small PT place have no chance in a market where there is a super club or franchised club that has the room to provide a more discreet area for some clients to train.  When you have a massage therapy area there are certain regulations you have to abide by.  One of them is providing water (sink) are to be able to wash your hands.  That means plumbing.  And depending on the location of the room it could end up costing $50,000+ to put in one 10 x 10 massage therapy room.  You need ventilation, area to change too. 


Another thing you forget is you have to give PT's a place to hold confernce with their clients.  A desk, computer, filing cabinet, workout cards, releases, phone etc.  Same with a massage therapist.  You just don't something without knowing what you are doing Goodrum.  Massage Therapy is a great way for a gym to make money but it is NOT as easy as adding a table in a small room.  But then where you live I am sure anything goes and they don't give a shit.

[Vince B]

The really sad thing about personal training is the low standard of training the instructors have. Our own Vince G knows hardly anything at all yet gives advice on his website. That is totally unprofessional as far as I am concerned. I guess a lot of simple-minded people figure being a personal trainer is an easy way to make a lot of money. Like I said, everyone with 16 inch arms considers himself a world expert in bodybuilding. Many of these heroes take a 6 week course or do some on line course and think they are qualified to instruct others. What a joke.

[Eyeball Chambers]

The really sad thing about personal training is the low standard of training the instructors have. Our own Vince G knows hardly anything at all yet gives advice on his website. That is totally unprofessional as far as I am concerned. I guess a lot of simple-minded people figure being a personal trainer is an easy way to make a lot of money. Like I said, everyone with 16 inch arms considers himself a world expert in bodybuilding. Many of these heroes take a 6 week course or do some on line course and think they are qualified to instruct others. What a joke.

What's the 1970 Mr.Canada doing posting on Getbig?

Shouldn't you be off lecturing at some University or something? 

[onlyme]

The problem with PT is that you really don't ever need to go into a gym and actually train to get certified.  If you are a good student and can take tests you can get certified. As a gym member and former athlete who train ALOT I never liked Personal Trainers.  But as a gym owner you need them and you want them cause they can make you money.  PT's are paid cheerleaders for the client.  They client needs them to rout them on and give them encouragement.  If a client can't learn how to train in a few weeks then it is sad.  After that the PT just becomes a cheerleader, which obviously alot of people need.  But I think it would be better to have a few friends come along with you and train.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Anyone who has been in a gym in the past few years could see that.  It isn't something he discovered.  Personal Training is the #2 source of revenue for a gym after memberships. 

That's only part of what I talking about.  I've referring to private personal training and wellness studios.

Its essentially a combination of not just physical fitness but also for alternative medicine, massage therapy and treatments.  People are wanting to get into shape but they also want alternatives to expensive medical treatment.  A personal trainer can simply take a 6-12 month course in massage therapy and take a home course in naturopathy and can greatly expand their business.  He can train a client and then give them a body massage afterwards which essentially doubles the revenue.

Private training studio's are so popular even Sam's Club is now selling entire base commerical packages under 10,000 they'll even ship it all out to you for free.  Add a few items and a trainer can be in business in a few days with minimum cost.

[Vince B]

Melvin, have you ever considered actually going to university and completing a course in exercise science or nutrition? That would be a start. You keep coming up with all these 'easy' ways to make money that require no professional qualifications. If all of this is so easy where is that clinic you said you were going to open?

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

WHat place lets the PT's keep all the money.  The have to be charged with rent or something.  Personal Trainers who don't pay the gym and train people on their put the gym at risk for injury law suits.  ANY PT who trains anyone and is not paying the gym a rental fee or percentage should be kicked out.  All that has to happen is the client getting injured and sues the gym because they understood the PT worked for or under the gym.  Equipment gets wear and tear from every person who uses it.  And, most personal trainers have their clients do some kind of cardio using the machines.  Also, clients take showers, use the restroom, paper towels, put wear and tear on the flooring.  Small PT place have no chance in a market where there is a super club or franchised club that has the room to provide a more discreet area for some clients to train.  When you have a massage therapy area there are certain regulations you have to abide by.  One of them is providing water (sink) are to be able to wash your hands.  That means plumbing.  And depending on the location of the room it could end up costing $50,000+ to put in one 10 x 10 massage therapy room.  You need ventilation, area to change too. 


Another thing you forget is you have to give PT's a place to hold confernce with their clients.  A desk, computer, filing cabinet, workout cards, releases, phone etc.  Same with a massage therapist.  You just don't something without knowing what you are doing Goodrum.  Massage Therapy is a great way for a gym to make money but it is NOT as easy as adding a table in a small room.  But then where you live I am sure anything goes and they don't give a shit.

I've actually put together a personal training studio design that fits in a small footprint and requires minimum spacing.  I actually got the idea from a hair salon and it eliminates a lot of clutter that's not needed.  The only extra expense would be the bathroom conversion over to a commercial shower and the massage room plumbing which I found is not that expensive in the scheme of things....far from $50,000...chuckle  

You simply think too big Keith which doesn't surprise me since you are big.
 

[onlyme]

That's only part of what I talking about.  I've referring to private personal training and wellness studios.

Its essentially a combination of not just physical fitness but also for alternative medicine, massage therapy and treatments.  People are wanting to get into shape but they also want alternatives to expensive medical treatment.  A personal trainer can simply take a 6-12 month course in massage therapy and take a home course in naturopathy and can greatly expand their business.  He can train a client and then give them a body massage afterwards which essentially doubles the revenue.

Private training studio's are so popular even Sam's Club is now selling entire base commerical packages under 10,000 they'll even ship it all out to you for free.  Add a few items and a trainer can be in business in a few days with minimum cost.

Honestly Goodrum why do you put shit like this up.  do you honestly think buying a "package" from Sam's Club is going to put you into business.  How many clients can you move through a gym you paid $10,000 in equipment.  How do you make enough to pay your overhead.  First you need a building or room to put this in.  You need to pay for lease (first and last), qualify for the lease, buildout the area, have utilities and phone and computer system put in.  A/C and heating.  Carpet or rubber flooring, a small reception area for prospective clients, check in counter, membership software and accounting, someone to clean and do maintenance, a receptionist, alarm, liability insurance for a minimum of $1 million, workman's comp and payroll fees, cleaning materials and the list can go on and on.  You have NO idea what it takes to put together a gym.  I have been doing it since 1979.  I remember when our membership info was kept on index cards in a shoe box.  But everything has changed.  And if you think you are going to get clients and retain them with a $10,000 equipment package from Sam's Club then dude you are even dumber that I thought.  I have no idea what kind of mentality small town people have but I am sure it isn't like yours.  I have a feeling you are happy making $80 a day.  A gym like you are dreaming up will barely make $200 a day.  I had to make a minimum of $2,000 a day in my small town of Kona and we only have 40,000 people or so.  We did it though most of the time (not counting weekends). 

[onlyme]

I've actually put together a personal training studio design that fits in a small footprint and requires minimum spacing.  I actually got the idea from a hair salon and it eliminates a lot of clutter that's not needed.  The only extra expense would be the bathroom conversion over to a commercial shower and the massage room plumbing which I found is not that expensive in the scheme of things....far from $50,000...chuckle 

You simply think too big Keith which doesn't surprise me since you are big.
 

Designing a place mean absolutely nothing!  Any moron can do that (you have proved that).  I guarantee you NO ONE would ever in there right mind invest in a small design like you have without unless they know nothing about the industry.  And you compare a hair salon to a gym.  Dude you surprise the shit out of me.  How the fuck do you stay alive?  And I don't think big I think about making enough to cover costs.  You simply cannot make enough money with a place you are describing.  NO way in hell.  But then again like I said you are happy making $80 a day so who knows.

[MuscleMcMannus]

This Vince guy looks like shit.  Who in their right mind would ever take advice from him?  He looks like a shiny turd after a fiber binge. 

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Honestly Goodrum why do you put shit like this up.  do you honestly think buying a "package" from Sam's Club is going to put you into business.  How many clients can you move through a gym you paid $10,000 in equipment.  How do you make enough to pay your overhead.  First you need a building or room to put this in.  You need to pay for lease (first and last), qualify for the lease, buildout the area, have utilities and phone and computer system put in.  A/C and heating.  Carpet or rubber flooring, a small reception area for prospective clients, check in counter, membership software and accounting, someone to clean and do maintenance, a receptionist, alarm, liability insurance for a minimum of $1 million, workman's comp and payroll fees, cleaning materials and the list can go on and on.  You have NO idea what it takes to put together a gym.  I have been doing it since 1979.  I remember when our membership info was kept on index cards in a shoe box.  But everything has changed.  And if you think you are going to get clients and retain them with a $10,000 equipment package from Sam's Club then dude you are even dumber that I thought.  I have no idea what kind of mentality small town people have but I am sure it isn't like yours.  I have a feeling you are happy making $80 a day.  A gym like you are dreaming up will barely make $200 a day.  I had to make a minimum of $2,000 a day in my small town of Kona and we only have 40,000 people or so.  We did it though most of the time (not counting weekends). 

Again you're thinking too big and a lot of stuff you mentioned is simply clutter.  Obviously a private training studio isn't going to need all the stuff you're talking about and the design can actually make more than you think if done correctly...and the overhead would be much lower allowing you to keep more of the profit.

Now, I only mentioned Sam's Club because they are doing it but actually a number of personal trainers have bought similar packages, added some extra stuff and and are doing pretty well.  They run it by themselves scheduling appointments, cleaning up, and etc.

The design I have like I said works similar to a hair salon and I'm sure it'll catch on with other interested in their own operation.  Peope who I've asked for opinions on the design actually liked it and thought it was innovative. 

[Vince B]

Hey, Keith, Sylva, NC, has only 2550 people. I doubt a gym would survive there. Seems Melvin is thinking small because he lives in a small town in those Great Smoky Mountains. Maybe the smoke got to him!

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Hey, Keith, Sylva, NC, has only 2550 people. I doubt a gym would survive there. Seems Melvin is thinking small because he lives in a small town in those Great Smoky Mountains. Maybe the smoke got to him!

This town actually has 2 gyms and an MMA training facility.