I'll be onstage competing again in 3 months (definite)

[danielson]

Better start saving now to cover the costs

I will use my (modest) expense account. I will just say I have a party of 8 or so

[stuntmovie]

Danielson, believe it or not but Keith doesn't really eat that much. I can almost guarantee ya that he'll be eating far less that anyone else seated at the table.

And he'll be telling some damn funny stories while everyone else is dining heartedly and laughing mightely. (New word - Sorry!)

For the record, I think most of us rag on Vince because he is so delusional. But I have to admit that he would be an interesting guy to meet and argue intelligently with.

And, I hope I am wrong here but I see absolutely no potential when it comes to Vince's physique. Great to see that he's trying though.

And lastly, I'm not aware of the legalities involved but if I was promoting a BB event, I would do everything legally possible to prevent Vince from entering any contest that is open to any athlete outside of the Novice class. But the problem here is that to the best of my understanding "novice" means any one who has not either entered a previous BB contest or anyone who has never taken home a trophy.

Vince has managed to do both and therefore is no longer a novice, so the real problem lies within the NPC because they have no rule that prevent this sort of stupidity. (Respectfully stated, but the truth nonetheless).

[danielson]

Danielson, believe it or not but Keith doesn't really eat that much. I can almost guarantee ya that he'll be eating far less that anyone else seated at the table.

And he'll be telling some damn funny stories while everyone else is dining heartedly and laughing mightely. (New word - Sorry!)

For the record, I think most of us rag on Vince because he is so delusional. But I have to admit that he would be an interesting guy to meet and argue intelligently with.

And, I hope I am wrong here but I see absolutely no potential when it comes to Vince's physique. Great to see that he's trying though.

And lastly, I'm not aware of the legalities involved but if I was promoting a BB event, I would do everything legally possible to prevent Vince from entering any contest that is open to any athlete outside of the Novice class. But the problem here is that to the best of my understanding "novice" means any one who has not either entered a previous BB contest or anyone who has never taken home a trophy.

Vince has managed to do both and therefore is no longer a novice, so the real problem lies within the NPC because they have no rule that prevent this sort of stupidity. (Respectfully stated, but the truth nonetheless).

Be honest here cuz I know you are a straight shooter, did you like Keith more(Getbig speaking) when he was more chill and helpful or now that he stalks Vince?

[stuntmovie]

Dan, in perfect honesty..... I like keith just the same under both of the circumstances we are speaking about.

And to be even more honest  .... I don't see Keith as "stalking Vince" because he honestly never speaks unkindly or improperly about anyone.

ANd, with that you probably currently disagree ......

.... But what keith is doing here and throughout this GetBig hangout is stalking "stupidity" or something other than that individual himself. He "stalks" what some of us believe in, or individual's attitudes, or one's dishonesty, or one's stupidity .... BUT definitely never that individual himself.

You gotta know him personally to believe or understand what I just stated.

This is in no way any attempt to defend Keith and his actions, but it is an attempt to better describe the man other than what one "interprets" to be the man as observed on GetBIG.com.

ANd in all honesty I have never heard keith make an adverse comment about any person other than as mentioned above.

BTW, Dan,  thanks for your straight shooter observation. I try.

[The Showstoppa]

this exchange with danielson and keith reminds me of this....

danielson IS the Ari Gold of getbig...

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

I will use my (modest) expense account. I will just say I have a party of 8 or so

Better double that party

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Dan, in perfect honesty..... I like keith just the same under both of the circumstances we are speaking about.

And to be even more honest  .... I don't see Keith as "stalking Vince" because he honestly never speaks unkindly or improperly about anyone.

ANd, with that you probably currently disagree ......

.... But what keith is doing here and throughout this GetBig hangout is stalking "stupidity" or something other than that individual himself. He "stalks" what some of us believe in, or individual's attitudes, or one's dishonesty, or one's stupidity .... BUT definitely never that individual himself.

You gotta know him personally to believe or understand what I just stated.

This is in no way any attempt to defend Keith and his actions, but it is an attempt to better describe the man other than what one "interprets" to be the man as observed on GetBIG.com.

ANd in all honesty I have never heard keith make an adverse comment about any person other than as mentioned above.

BTW, Dan,  thanks for your straight shooter observation. I try.

Keith stalks me like he stalks doughnuts. 

He even called a pizza company back in 2006 to have a pizza delivered to me at my hotel when I was competing.

Now that's not as bad as Basile calling my hotel in Las Vegas 3 times but stalking is stalking.  The fact is that Keith attempts to make fun of me to feel better about his fatal morbid obese condition.

Doesn't work

[danielson]

this exchange with danielson and keith reminds me of this....

danielson IS the Ari Gold of getbig...

[danielson]

Dan, in perfect honesty..... I like keith just the same under both of the circumstances we are speaking about.

And to be even more honest  .... I don't see Keith as "stalking Vince" because he honestly never speaks unkindly or improperly about anyone.

ANd, with that you probably currently disagree ......

.... But what keith is doing here and throughout this GetBig hangout is stalking "stupidity" or something other than that individual himself. He "stalks" what some of us believe in, or individual's attitudes, or one's dishonesty, or one's stupidity .... BUT definitely never that individual himself.

You gotta know him personally to believe or understand what I just stated.

This is in no way any attempt to defend Keith and his actions, but it is an attempt to better describe the man other than what one "interprets" to be the man as observed on GetBIG.com.

ANd in all honesty I have never heard keith make an adverse comment about any person other than as mentioned above.

BTW, Dan,  thanks for your straight shooter observation. I try.

The thing is, who is Vince hurting? He competes cuz he likes to try and better himself, what's the harm? I can not fathom why an older gentleman like Keith has such a problem with the guy, even to the extent of calling him a monkey amongst other things. There is harmless fun and there is stalking and Keith crossed that line a long time ago. Basile has done the same, but no one ever respected that guy anyway.

[DeltsaForce]

you know to be fair to goodrum when MD was having it little bitch war with GB, he was one of the first guys to come out flying the GB flag over there.
he also has a kinda unbreakable spirit and eternal optimism that I find touching.

he still has a go at life when keith seem to have given up.

[Krankenstein]

The thing is, who is Vince hurting? He competes cuz he likes to try and better himself, what's the harm? I can not fathom why an older gentleman like Keith has such a problem with the guy, even to the extent of calling him a monkey amongst other things. There is harmless fun and there is stalking and Keith crossed that line a long time ago. Basile has done the same, but no one ever respected that guy anyway.

Its not that he is hurting anyone....its that he thinks he is on such a higher level than he really is.  He makes claim after claim after claim.  Then, when someone who can not only talk the talk but walk the walk comes forth he has the balls to still talk shit.  There have been multiple people who have offered to help him prep for a show...FOR FREE.  Yet, does he takle advatage?  Nope.  That proves how he really DOESN'T take this seriously and obviously LOVES the attention (albiet negative) he gets.  He made a bet with me last year...then never followed through with it (Its all in the posts vince).  He talks about "mentzer-like conditioning".  Dear lord.  

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Its not that he is hurting anyone....its that he thinks he is on such a higher level than he really is.  He makes claim after claim after claim.  Then, when someone who can not only talk the talk but walk the walk comes forth he has the balls to still talk shit.  There have been multiple people who have offered to help him prep for a show...FOR FREE.  Yet, does he takle advatage?  Nope.  That proves how he really DOESN'T take this seriously and obviously LOVES the attention (albiet negative) he gets.  He made a bet with me last year...then never followed through with it (Its all in the posts vince).  He talks about "mentzer-like conditioning".  Dear lord.  

I've only taken help from people who are SINCERE ABOUT DOING IT.  I also don't take advice from someone using steroids because it obviously won't work for me.   

As far as you're concerned, I certainly won't wish to take the advice from someone who has ridiculed me in the past so fuck off.  Honestly if you in my place you would say the same

[disturbia]

you know to be fair to goodrum when MD was having it little bitch war with GB, he was one of the first guys to come out flying the GB flag over there.
he also has a kinda unbreakable spirit and eternal optimism that I find touching.

he still has a go at life when keith seem to have given up.

I support Vince now because he lives life by his rules and takes shit from no one.  I actually have respect for the guy now.

[stuntmovie]

Well, I could possibly be entirely wrong here because "meeting" one's persona on a internet board, hardly qualifies me or others to gain a valid understanding or opinion of another's true character; but I see nothing that I can respect regarding Vince as he presents himself on this board.

In my humble opinion he is nothing but an embarrassment.

And I mean that with all due respect to Vince as an individual human being.

You guys who encourage him to compete are less of a "friend" to him than I am who at least attempts in a limited and polite way to suggest that he stay away from bodybuilding competitions unless he has a seat in the audience.

Any lesser friend would encourage him to make a fool of himself and stand up there in his posing trunks.

NASCAR doesn't allow a Model T on that track and the NPC should do the same unless a contest is specifically organized for those who are similar to Vince's caliber.

Actually, I'm not attacking Vince! I'm simply attacking the regulations (or lack of regulations) that allow something like this to happen.

[bigbobs]

Vince would get more respect if he didn't lie about himself or personally attack others.  For example, if he didn't make claims like "Munzer-like conditioning" or "19 inch arms" or "I can bench press 315 lbs for reps," or the way he challenges other members and says he looks much better than them, he claimed to look better than 95% (orwas it 99, I can't remember now) of getbiggers, etc. 

Didn't he also send g4p photos of Derek Anthony to his parents (before the spitting incident)?  That's getting pretty personal.  He also expressed happiness at the possibility of Romano getting his condo repo'd.  I don't even follow his posts that much, I'm sure if I did I would have an even much longer list of wrongs.

[England_1]

Vince has better calves than Mr. Olympia

[The Showstoppa]

I support Vince now because he lives life by his rules and takes shit from no one.  I actually have respect for the guy now.

 

[DeltsaForce]

I support Vince now because he lives life by his rules and takes shit from no one.  I actually have respect for the guy now.

Not only that , he is a dedicated top man and has a white boy bottom. 400 years ago Vince would be baling cotton and singing to himself with that insane grin on his face, now he's fucking the slave owner in the ass and making him fart out his cum.
that's some pretty big role reversal shit

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Well, I could possibly be entirely wrong here because "meeting" one's persona on a internet board, hardly qualifies me or others to gain a valid understanding or opinion of another's true character; but I see nothing that I can respect regarding Vince as he presents himself on this board.

In my humble opinion he is nothing but an embarrassment.

And I mean that with all due respect to Vince as an individual human being.

You guys who encourage him to compete are less of a "friend" to him than I am who at least attempts in a limited and polite way to suggest that he stay away from bodybuilding competitions unless he has a seat in the audience.

Any lesser friend would encourage him to make a fool of himself and stand up there in his posing trunks.

NASCAR doesn't allow a Model T on that track and the NPC should do the same unless a contest is specifically organized for those who are similar to Vince's caliber.

Actually, I'm not attacking Vince! I'm simply attacking the regulations (or lack of regulations) that allow something like this to happen.

 

NASCAR is a professional racing league, the NPC is the amateur league you idiot.  The junior division is reserved for people who have already competed but are not ready for the open division.  

So...did I not compete in the junior division?  Ummmmm.....yep.  And honestly, there were people in a lot worse shape at that event.  So please shut the hell up because you don't know what you're talking about.    

[LLES]

To be fair, Vince G CSN MFT is no idiot, imbecile or moron. Looking at his latest photos he does have potential and has improved since the Billy Guns showdown where he looked pudgy.
 Goodrum just gets more motivated. Who says being gay doesn't pay!

Goodrum doesn't look like shit. Oh, even he has admitted that in the past.  He has long muscle bellies and reasonably good shape.





And if you believe that ,your just as deliousional as he is. I really like the part about being in reasonbly good shape, Ialmost fell out of my chair on that one.

[danielson]

Vince would get more respect if he didn't lie about himself or personally attack others.  For example, if he didn't make claims like "Munzer-like conditioning" or "19 inch arms" or "I can bench press 315 lbs for reps," or the way he challenges other members and says he looks much better than them, he claimed to look better than 95% (orwas it 99, I can't remember now) of getbiggers, etc. 

You are the king of getting people riled up on here, why is it different when Vince does it?

[Krankenstein]

I've only taken help from people who are SINCERE ABOUT DOING IT.  I also don't take advice from someone using steroids because it obviously won't work for me.   

As far as you're concerned, I certainly won't wish to take the advice from someone who has ridiculed me in the past so fuck off.  Honestly if you in my place you would say the same

Vince..I offered WAY before you turned into a bigger asshole than I recall you being on Mayhem.  In fact, it was only AFTER you were a dick to me after giving you advice on your PI case that I felt you didnt deserve one iota of respect from me.  Even after that, I felt bad about how you were being treated and tried to look past it and help you out.  Again, TRYING to be better about someone who might need some help.  Its called giving of yourself.  You again were a dick.  Hell, if I knew you were absolutely 100% serious and really werent pulling everyone's leg about doing a show...I would EVEN NOW offer to help you prep for this show.  Why?  Because maybe...JUST MAYBE....you will realize what it actually takes and you could learn something from someone who just might know a thing or two more than you do.  Its all you Vince.  I know prep guys charge $800 - $2000 for it.  Why am I offering...who the fuck knows.  I know that if you did follow what I told you, that you just might shut some people up.

[drkaje]

Not only that , he is a dedicated top man and has a white boy bottom. 400 years ago Vince would be baling cotton and singing to himself with that insane grin on his face, now he's fucking the slave owner in the ass and making him fart out his cum.
that's some pretty big role reversal shit

WTF?!

You're saving the funny posts for these guys?!!?!

[bigbobs]

You are the king of getting people riled up on here, why is it different when Vince does it?

If Vince is making all those claims as a joke to rile people up then okay, that's funny - but it just doesn't seem like he is.    What do you think?

Also, I never blatantly lie about numbers or specific claims with myself or with Nasser.

[DeketheCreep]

danielson IS the Ari Gold of getbig...