Jindal's Flop

[240 is Back]

jindal appeals to the far right minority who has the $.
Just like obama appealed to the far left minority.

This always happens.  Then americans have to choose between the major neocuunt and the libby.

[Benny B]

Piyush changed his name to "Bobby" after watching the Brady Bunch. 

[jesusbod]

In the republican response to President Obama's speech, governor Jindal was terrible. He sounded phony, and he looked scared and sickly. His message was pathetic.

Maybe the dude will be ready for prime time in about 16-20 years. 

With Blanco being in your username I guess you liked the governor before Jindal.. Liberal Scum

[Soul Crusher]

Piyush changed his name to "Bobby" after watching the Brady Bunch. 

ZERO is going to be a one term disaster anyway. 

[Hedgehog]

Is it safe to say though, after all this drama, that Jindal's performance didn't help the GOP?

That his future as a possible president candidate seems a little less likely?

[shootfighter1]

I would say that this somewhat hurt his public appeal as a potential presidential candidate... for now.  He could easily turn it around with better public appearances.  Most of us that have seen him before know he typically comes across better than he did on Tuesday.

[shootfighter1]

You say that he appealed to a right wealthy minority, I disagree.
His message appealed to everyone who wants smaller government.  That was the key point.  How could you miss that?

Obama will crucify FAMILIES that make 250K and over.  He will also hurt businesses that gross 250K and over, thats a lot of businesses.  A family that makes 250K with both parents working and a couple kids is not rich.  They are upper middle class.  Obama is definitely redistributing wealth.

[Dos Equis]

Is it safe to say though, after all this drama, that Jindal's performance didn't help the GOP?

That his future as a possible president candidate seems a little less likely?

Not at all.  We're four years away from the next election.  No one is either in or out at this point, except for maybe John Edwards. 

[Parker]

Look, Obama is what he is.  He is never going to be a fiscally prudent person.  Shit - he has never even had a real job in his life.


We need someone who can match brains for brains, style for style, and more important than anything else - PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE.

 

 

Michael Steele, anyone?

[Soul Crusher]

Michael Steele, anyone?

No. 

[Benny B]

Michael Steele, anyone?

You're kidding, right? Steele is a clown.

[240 is Back]

the 2011/2012 leader hasn't emerged yet.  it'll be someone unexpected.

steele = obnoxious.
jindal = creepy extremist.
palin = dumb extremist.

there's a moderate, someone like Crist, who will woo the betrayed voters who hate the anti-gun traits of the dems.

[Benny B]

the 2011/2012 leader hasn't emerged yet.  it'll be someone unexpected.

steele = obnoxious.
jindal = creepy extremist.
palin = dumb extremist.

there's a moderate, someone like Crist, who will woo the betrayed voters who hate the anti-gun traits of the dems.

I don't see Crist as possessing the charisma to be successful on the national stage. Perhaps he can get it together over the next couple of years and polish up his act. The problem with moderate repubes in presidential elections is that the primaries pull candidates to the hard right. You can't get the nomination without appealing to the white evangelical base. McCain reluctantly got their vote, but the enthusiasm seemed to be lacking.

All I know is that the repubes better stop trying to go brown face. Steele, Jindal...there is no point in trying to prop up ethnic minority leaders when your party is overwhelmingly white and your base is in the south and rural west. I don't believe Jindal would win a primary in single state in the south outside of his own state of LA. Republicans better look to someone who can help them get back some of the coastal states. Find a guy outside of the south. Pawlenty and Romney are probably are the strongest options at the moment, but Pawlenty seems rather boring and Romney as rather stiff and is a Mormon.

[240 is Back]

The problem with moderate repubes in presidential elections is that the primaries pull candidates to the hard right. You can't get the nomination without appealing to the white evangelical base. McCain reluctantly got their vote, but the enthusiasm seemed to be lacking.

Rudy, Mitt, and Mccain were all liberals in their day.

They all 'acted' neocon in 2007, but everyone knew the score.  They were libs who converted because they liked to capitalize on fear/terror card.  high tax, big govt, blow money, gun grabbing, illegal lovin' liberals, they were.

Crist is Jeb Jr and loved around FL, an obama state.

[Benny B]

Rudy, Mitt, and Mccain were all liberals in their day.

They all 'acted' neocon in 2007, but everyone knew the score.  They were libs who converted because they liked to capitalize on fear/terror card.  high tax, big govt, blow money, gun grabbing, illegal lovin' liberals, they were.

Crist is Jeb Jr and loved around FL, an obama state.

Rudy got his ass handed to him in the south, and Romney did not fair much better. This is precisely my point.
 
McCain could never be classified as a liberal at any time.

You may love Crist, but it remains to be seen if he has the charisma to appeal outside of FL. Personally, I don't see it right now.

[Soul Crusher]

You guys are going to explode when ZERO becomes a one term disaster.

[shootfighter1]

I completely disagree.  I like Michael Steele and listen to him every Friday AM driving to work.

He is absolutely not obnoxious 240, you must not hear him much.  He's got a great attitude and presentation.  He doesn't have that insulting tone many partisain politicians have.
He believes in traditional conservatism.  Its hard to agree with anyone 100% but I agree with the majority of what I hear from him every week.

[Soul Crusher]

The problem with the GOP is that it is filled with too many panzi milq

[shootfighter1]

IMO, the party needs to concentrate on protecting freedoms, limiting gov intervention in the private sector, lowering business and personal taxes and fighting socialist programs.  This is what could win the election for them because Obama's administration has turned out to be far left economically and with regards to big government spending and control.  This will attract moderates back to the party in 2010 and 2012.
As Benny mentioned, some of the base is evangelicals so a candidate would need their support without going overboard with religious conservative social values.