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Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« on: February 25, 2009, 09:29:13 PM »
Fucking up the country one day at a time......


The 10-year budget outline that the White House will release officially Thursday aims to pay for universal health care coverage in part by collecting more in taxes from wealthy Americans.

Senior administration officials tell FOX News that President Obama's budget will include a $634 billion "reserve fund" to pay for universal coverage. The administration projects the total cost of $1 trillion and describes the "reserve fund" as a down payment on the total cost.

Senior White House officials briefed Democrats in Congress on the president's budget outline Wednesday.

The $634 billion figure is meant to finance a portion of the plan for ten years. The administration, an official said, will work with Congress to locate the remainder of financing for the plan. "This is a very significant down payment," a senior administration official told FOX News. "We consider putting this reserve fund on the table a more auspicious approach to getting this done this year."

The White House contends by directly telling Congress how much universal coverage is projected to cost, it can devote more time to debating the methods of achieving coverage instead of getting bogged down in conflicting cost estimates.

The president will finance about half of its "reserve fund" allocation by limiting itemized deductions to couples who earn $250,000 or more to 28 percent of the total itemized deductions they claim.

For example, if a couple had $10,000 of legal itemized deductions, the tax change would limit the deductible amount to $2,800. Under current law couples earning $250,000 or more can deduct up to 35 percent of their legal deductions. Using the $10,000 figure again, couples can currently deduct $3,500 from their taxes.

This change is projected to generate $317.8 billion over 10 years, or roughly half the cost of universal coverage.

The president also will seek $177 billion in savings over 10 years by reducing government subsidies to Medicare Advantage, the private-sector insurance component of Medicare. Under Medicare Advantage, private insurers provide government-approved health insurance coverage and are reimbursed for costs on an annually adjusted basis.

Administration officials said the subsidies paid to private insurers for Medicare Advantage are 14 percent more expensive than services provided by Medicare itself. The administration will ask Congress to require private insurers to bid to provide services and be paid the average of the received bids.

The administration will also seek savings from Medicare by trying to improve post-discharge care for patients released from hospitals. Medicare pays billions for readmission care for seniors who must re-enter hospitals due to inadequate post-discharge care. The administration will also ask Congress to increase the monthly prescription drug premiums under Medicare Part D for seniors earning more than $170,000 a year. This change is projected to save $8.1 billion over 10 years.


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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2009, 09:32:14 PM »
only 634 million over 10 years?

that number seems too small

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2009, 09:39:07 PM »
only 634 milion over 10 years?

that number seems too small

Coach got a little too excited while posting..

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2009, 10:01:27 PM »
Read it again.....it's BILLION with a B. Also try reading the artical, he wants to reduce deductions, why don't you try reading the artical?

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2009, 10:19:49 PM »
Whatever, quit nitpicking.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2009, 10:21:45 PM »
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aN3Z5Oo3eStg&refer=home

This stupid fuck is ruining this country.  Just picking up where Bush left off.  All the morons that voted for this moron should be ashamed.  They've been fooled. 

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2009, 11:46:48 PM »
Read it again.....it's BILLION with a B. Also try reading the artical, he wants to reduce deductions, why don't you try reading the artical?

Then why did you type M next to the dollar figure in the Subject headline?

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2009, 11:51:50 PM »
Then why did you type M next to the dollar figure in the Subject headline?


Doh!

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #9 on: February 26, 2009, 06:23:42 AM »
only 634 million over 10 years?

that number seems too small

BILLION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Face it - Obama makes GWB look like scrooge.

What a disaster.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #10 on: February 26, 2009, 07:11:47 AM »
No one can accurately predict what nationalized healthcare will cost the US.  We have the most expensive proceedures here and have a much larger population than Canada or the European countries that tried this.

He is spending so much money so quickly, I think this is very dangerous.
Healthcare does need to be addressed but I believe an initiative this large should be taken on after the economy stabilizes.  People seem to gloss over the fact that 1.5trillion dollars of our tax money have just been approved outside of the $410billion dollar budget.  Why don't we concentrate on this largest amount of tax $ ever approved before spending even more.  There are also requests for billions more from GM and Chrystler and another huge bailout request from banks like AIG. 

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #11 on: February 26, 2009, 07:14:26 AM »
Obama must be on cocaine again.  He is truly a madman.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #12 on: February 26, 2009, 07:30:16 AM »
People love hearing all the things Obama wants to do but have no concept of what this is doing to our national debt or how all these things will be paid for...just like the American culture, put everything on credit.  Thats what got most families in the mess they are in, credit spending, assuming housing values would continue to appreciate and overextending themselves.  Repealing the Bush tax cuts on families making over 250K will only pay for a fraction of these things.

Not funding Medicare Advantage sounds like a good idea if it is wasteful.  Why don't they allow insurances to compete across state lines.  That costs the tax payors nothing.  See if that helps bring down costs first.


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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #13 on: February 26, 2009, 08:13:01 AM »
From Bloomberg'

The official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the White House hasn’t decided whether the $750 billion in additional aid to the financial industry will be needed. He said it will be put in the budget as a “placeholder.”  


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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2009, 08:20:40 AM »
Then why did you type M next to the dollar figure in the Subject headline?

It wasn't my typo, It was a cut and paste headline.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2009, 08:21:29 AM »

Doh!

One of these days Coach will simply back away from his keyboard, ...hopefully!  ;)

Typical response from a clueless lib.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #16 on: February 26, 2009, 08:23:34 AM »

Doh!

One of these days Coach will simply back away from his keyboard, ...hopefully!  ;)

Just like Obama not reading the lib spending spree bill, you didn't read the content.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2009, 08:29:06 AM »
It wasn't my typo, It was a cut and paste headline.

Ever considered starting threads that are your own brainchilds?
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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #18 on: February 26, 2009, 08:31:24 AM »
Ever considered starting threads that are your own brainchilds?

I think my response to Comrad Obama's "plan" in enough.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #19 on: February 26, 2009, 09:40:26 AM »
Typical response from a clueless lib.

Just like Obama not reading the lib spending spree bill, you didn't read the content.

I did read the content. That wasn't what I was laughing at, ...I was laughing at YOU!
And I'm still laughing at YOU. Two responses in 2 minutes? ...are we having a wee little meltdown?

All joking aside tho, ...I really do appreciate you posting here. When else would I get to use that smiley?
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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #20 on: February 26, 2009, 09:48:02 AM »
I like how he wants to start all these pet projects when we have a huge debt, one he already added to with nearly $800B in spending that is not going to stimulate anything.  He's already leveraged against future generations and he wants to add to it more.  From what people have posted here before, universal health care is nothing special. 
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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #21 on: February 26, 2009, 09:56:43 AM »
I like how he wants to start all these pet projects when we have a huge debt, one he already added to with nearly $800B in spending that is not going to stimulate anything.  He's already leveraged against future generations and he wants to add to it more.  From what people have posted here before, universal health care is nothing special. 

The libs love the thought of it though... It's endless taxation and spending, and no one gets any good out of it except the dregs of society and illegals.

All public hospitals will function like a public health clinic.

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Re: Obama Seeks $634M Over 10 Years to Revamp Health Care System
« Reply #22 on: February 26, 2009, 11:33:30 AM »
Geeze.  Well he's doing what he promised to do:  "spread the wealth around."