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Anyone ever hear of Lyle McDonald and his diets?
« on: February 26, 2009, 09:10:13 AM »
I've been reading about this guy and it seems positive.  The only time I call bullshit is is Ultimate Diet 2.0 that claims it only works if you have under 15% BF.  WTF?  WHat does specific BF have to do with specific diets?

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Re: Anyone ever hear of Lyle McDonald and his diets?
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2009, 09:14:26 AM »
It doesn't or at least shouldn't...
If you have high Bf you will loose more fat, but it will take longer to look "cut"
simple as that, this is not space science even if companies like MUSCLETECH try to make it to one...
TEST+DECA+DBOL=BIG

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Re: Anyone ever hear of Lyle McDonald and his diets?
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2009, 01:04:30 PM »
I've been reading about this guy and it seems positive.  The only time I call bullshit is is Ultimate Diet 2.0 that claims it only works if you have under 15% BF.  WTF?  WHat does specific BF have to do with specific diets?

http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/store

Yes.  He's been around awhile and knows his stuff.  Regarding UD2, the above statement is just a tad harsh.  It's not that it won't "work".  Here is an excerpt explaining the rationale:

The title of this book, The Ultimate Diet 2.0, has several meanings. The first is simply one
of tribute to Duchaine and Zumpano's original Ultimate Diet, released all the way back in 1982.
It's fascinating reading now and they were ahead of their time by many years. This book is also
an update to that same diet integrating findings about metabolism, fat loss and muscle gain to
optimize it. Anyone involved with computers knows that new versions of stuff get a new number.
Hence 2.0.

In modern times, an average male may be carrying 18-25% bodyfat, an average female
21-28%. Many, many (too many) people are much fatter than that.
Healthy bodyfat levels are considered to be 11-18% for men and 18-25% for women. To
the body-obsessed, except maybe at the lower levels, that's still fat. Male bodybuilders (and other
athletes) think in terms of sub-10% bodyfat levels, females typically in the low to mid teens.
Researchers would probably debate the validity of such beliefs but who cares; if you believe it, it's
true to you. Perhaps more important is that it is your goal.
Most diets or diet books are aimed at the folks who are trying to get somewhere in the
realm of average. There are tons to choose from out there. Any discovery or piece of research
that might affect these folks can be turned into a quick fix diet book. One of these days, I'm going
to write my own, make a zillion dollars and retire.
For obese folks just trying to lose weight, pretty much any non-retarded diet will work. The
main issues to deal with there have more to do with anxiety and the issues involved in changing
long-term eating and activity patterns. And even though some readers might disagree, getting a
male to 12-15% bodyfat or a female into the 18-22% range usually isn't that difficult. Basic food
control, adequate protein and exercise will usually get it done without too much trouble. This book
isn't aimed at either group.

By the time folks get to the 12-15% (18-22% for women) range, anxiety, food control and
changing habits usually aren't the problem. For bodybuilders and athletes meticulous food
control and training is part of the lifestyle. It's when folks start trying to achieve the lower
extremes of bodyfat percentage that other problems start to occur. Ravenous hunger, severe
muscle loss, metabolic slowdown and screwed up hormones are a few of the usual problems.
Women and some men have an additional problem mobilizing and getting rid of stubborn fat
(hip/thigh area for women, ab/low-back fat for men).
In presenting the UD2, I'm going to assume that you already have the discipline and
anxiety issues well under control. While they are less of a problem on this diet than on many
others, it's the real physiological problems I'm setting out to address and fix.


I hope that makes sense.  It's a good diet.  It works.  It takes a lot of discipline, but so does any diet.  Personally, I couldn't handle the refeeds - the carb ups are enormous and while I looked forward to them and enjoyed them at the time, I felt like crap for 2 days afterwards  :-\  Good luck if you decide to try it.

Oh, and I love Lyle's no BS attitude.  8)
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Re: Anyone ever hear of Lyle McDonald and his diets?
« Reply #3 on: February 26, 2009, 03:00:30 PM »
lol any non-retarded diet.