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10 Pillars of Communism
« on: March 02, 2009, 07:27:24 AM »
10 Pillars of Communism


How Many of the 10 Pillars of Communism are We Seeing in the United States of America?


1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes (LAND TAKINGS BY GOVERNMENT, GOVERNMENT OWNED LANDS, ABUSIVE PROPERTY TAXES).
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax. (DONE)
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance. (PARTIALLY DONE)
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels. THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED
5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly. (DONE)
6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state. THE FCC HAS BROAD POWERS IN THIS AREA
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan. (THE FARM BILL HAS ACCOMPLISHED SOME OF THIS)
8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture. PEACE CORPS, JOB CORPS, ETC. ARE LEADING TO THIS
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country. PARTIAL-LAND USE PLANNING, KELO RULINGS, ETC.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. (DONE)


We are all AMERICANS and irregardless of political leanings should be aware of the direction we are heading.
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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2009, 07:58:17 AM »
In as much as american has spoken negatively of Russia's and China's system of government for years, but has secretly admired them. Now it is fast forwarding to incorporate the same type of government as these nations have...EXCEPT IT WILL BE MORE TOTALITARIAN
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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2009, 08:02:08 AM »
This is just bullshit - do you know that?

Lets assume for a moment that the above is true for USA.

But where do you get the idea that those are some 'pillars' of Communism?

Absolutely ridiculous.
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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2009, 08:03:41 AM »
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This is just bullshit - do you know that?

Lets assume for a moment that the above is true for USA.

But where do you get the idea that those are some 'pillars' of Communism?
  ::)

Absolutely ridiculous.

http://www.laissez-fairerepublic.com/TenPlanks.html


The Ten Planks of the
Communist Manifesto
1848 by Karl Heinrich Marx    

How "Marxist" Has
the United States
Become?


Although Marx advocated the use of any means, especially including violent revolution, to bring about socialist dictatorship, he suggested ten political goals for developed countries such as the United States.  How far has the United States -- traditionally the bastion of freedom, free markets, and private property -- gone down the Marxist road to fulfill these socialist aims?  You be the judge.  The following are Marx's ten planks from his Communist Manifesto.

1. Abolition of private property and the application of all rent to public purpose.
    The courts have interpreted the 14th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution (1868) to give the government far more "eminent domain" power than was originally intended, Under the rubric of "eminent domain" and various zoning regulations, land use regulations by the Bureau of Land Managementproperty taxes, and "environmental" excuses, private property rights have become very diluted and private property in landis, vehicles, and other forms are seized almost every day in this country under the "forfeiture" provisions of the RICO statutes and the so-called War on Drugs..


 2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
    The 16th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, 1913 (which some scholars maintain was never properly ratified), and various State income taxes, established this major Marxist coup in the United States many decades ago.  These taxes continue to drain the lifeblood out of the American economy and greatly reduce the accumulation of desperately needed capital for future growth, business starts, job creation, and salary increases.


 3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance
    Another Marxian attack on private property rights is in the form of  Federal & State estate taxes and other inheritance taxes, which have abolished or at least greatly diluted the right of private property owners to determine the disposition and distribution of their estates upon their death.  Instead, government bureaucrats get their greedy hands involved .


 4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels
    We call it government seizures, tax liens, "forfeiture" Public "law" 99-570 (1986); Executive order 11490, sections 1205, 2002 which gives private land to the Department of Urban Development; the imprisonment of "terrorists" and those who speak out or write against the "government" (1997 Crime/Terrorist Bill); or the IRS confiscation of property without due process.


 5. Centralization of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.
    The Federal Reserve System, created by the Federal Reserve Act of Congress in 1913, is indeed such a "national bank" and it politically manipulates interest rates and holds a monopoly on legal counterfeiting in the United States.   This is exactly what Marx had in mind and completely fulfills this plank, another major socialist objective.   Yet, most Americans naively believe the U.S. of A. is far from a Marcxist or socialist nation.


6. Centralization of the means of communication and transportation in the hands of the State
    In the U.S., communication and transportation are controlled and regulated by the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) established by the Communications Act of 1934 and the Department of Transportation and the Interstate Commerce Commission (established by Congress in 1887), and the Federal Aviation Administration as well as Executive orders 11490, 10999 -- not to mention various state bureaucracies and regulations. There is also the federal postal monopoly, AMTRAK and CONRAIL -- outright socialist (government-owned) enterprises.   Instead of free-market private enteprrise in these important industries, these fields in America are semi-cartelized through the government's regulatory-industiral complex.


7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State, the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
    We call it corporate capacity, The Desert Entry Act and The Department of Agriculture. As well as the Department of Commerce and Labor, Department of Interior, the Evironmental Protection Agency, Bureau of Land Management, Bureau of Reclamation, Bureau of Mines, National Park Service, and the IRS control of business through corporate regulations.


 8. Equal liablity of all to labor. Establishment of Industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
    We call it the Social Security Administration and The Department of Labor. The National debt and inflation caused by the communal bank has caused the need for a two "income" family. Woman in the workplace since the 1920's, the 19th amendment of the U.S. Constitution, the Civil Rights Act of 1964, assorted Socialist Unions, affirmative action, the Federal Public Works Program and of course Executive order 11000. And I almost forgot...The Equal Rights Amendment means that women should do all work that men do including the military and since passage it would make women subject to the draft.


 9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the population over the country.
    We call it the Planning Reorganization Act of 1949 , zoning (Title 17 1910-1990) and Super Corporate Farms, as well as Executive orders 11647, 11731 (ten regions) and Public "law" 89-136.


10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2009, 08:05:17 AM »
This is just bullshit - do you know that?

Lets assume for a moment that the above is true for USA.

But where do you get the idea that those are some 'pillars' of Communism?

Absolutely ridiculous.

HOGHEAD...Is it still BULLSHIT now????
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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2009, 08:24:26 AM »
HOGHEAD...Is it still BULLSHIT now????
yes, still bullshit.

I don't get it? You like getting lies fed to you? ???

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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2009, 10:05:56 AM »
http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html
good link.
It's the manifesto.

But where in it do you find any direct reference to those pillars you just posted?
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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2009, 10:07:31 AM »
good link.
It's the manifesto.

But where in it do you find any direct reference to those pillars you just posted?


We need a low flat sales tax across the board.  The income tax is pure tyranny. 

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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2009, 10:14:33 AM »
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good link.
It's the manifesto.

But where in it do you find any direct reference to those pillars you just posted?

I find it here :


Go half way down this page. (from the same website that you said was a "good link" )

http://www.anu.edu.au/polsci/marx/classics/manifesto.html

and you will find :

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.

2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.

4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

5. Centralization of credit in the banks of the state, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.

6. Centralization of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the state.

7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the state; the bringing into cultivation of waste lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.

8. Equal obligation of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.

9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.

10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc"





need more proof ?

Here is a link to Marxists.org :


http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/ch02.htm

1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.


Want more ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Communist_Manifesto

"10 Planks of the Communist Manifesto

   1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
   2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
   3. Abolition of all right of inheritance.
   4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
   5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
   6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
   7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
   8. Equal liability of all to labour. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
   9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of the distinction between town and country, by a more equal distribution of the population over the country.
  10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children's factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c., &c.[6]

According to the Communist Manifesto, all these were prior conditions for a transition from capitalism to communism, but Marx and Engels later expressed a desire to modernize this passage.[7]"









Hedgehog,  are you just stupid, or drunk  ???

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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2009, 10:22:29 AM »
When these obama cultists look in the mirror in a moment of sobriety, they will see themselves for what they realy are:

Communists and tyrants.

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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2009, 10:49:37 AM »
Our country is not headed in the direction of communism.  We are headed towards fascism ala Nazi Germany and Hitler.  Obama is NOT a communist.  He's a national socialist.  He's mentor is Zbegniew Brezinksi for god's sake.  Some of you need to do some more research and understand this big difference. 

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Re: 10 Pillars of Communism
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2009, 11:02:55 AM »
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Our country is not headed in the direction of communism.  We are headed towards fascism ala Nazi Germany and Hitler.  Obama is NOT a communist.  He's a national socialist.  He's mentor is Zbegniew Brezinksi for god's sake.  Some of you need to do some more research and understand this big difference.

What is the Difference Between Socialism and Communism?



http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-socialism-and-communism.htm

Socialism and communism are ideological doctrines that have many similarities as well as many differences. It is difficult to discern the true differences between socialism and communism, as various societies have tried different types of both systems in myriad forms, and many ideologues with different agendas have defined both systems in biased terms. Some main differences, however, can still be identified.

One difference between socialism and communism is that socialism is mainly an economic system, while communism is both an economic and a political system. As an economic system, socialism seeks to manage the economy through deliberate and collective social control. Communism, however, seeks to manage both the economy and the society by ensuring that property is owned collectively and that control over the distribution of property is centralized in order to achieve both classlessness and statelessness. Both socialism and communism are similar in that they seek to prevent the ill effects that are sometimes produced by capitalism.

Both socialism and communism are based on the principle that the goods and services produced in an economy should be owned publicly and controlled and planned by a centralized organization. However, socialism asserts that the distribution should take place according to the amount of individuals' production efforts, while communism asserts that that goods and services should be distributed among the populace according to individuals' needs.

Another difference between socialism and communism is that communists assert that both capitalism and private ownership of means of production must be done away with as soon as possible in order to make sure a classless society, the communist ideal, is formed. Socialists, however, see capitalism as a possible part of the ideal state and believe that socialism can exist in a capitalist society. In fact, one of the ideas of socialism is that everyone within the society will benefit from capitalism as much as possible as long as the capitalism is controlled somehow by a centralized planning system.

Finally, another difference between socialism and communism is centered on who controls the structure of economy. Where socialism generally aims to have as many people as possible influence how the economy works, communism seeks to concentrate that number into a smaller amount.




 Sadly, in many aspects, one could say that the USA is headed for Communism  :(