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Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« on: March 03, 2009, 07:56:05 AM »
Obama's bold. What did you expect?
By: Roger Simon
March 3, 2009

The Obama presidency has started off in a whirlwind. It has been a headlong rush. This is not small-bite politics. This is not school uniforms.

With hardly a pause to take a deep breath, Barack Obama has presented an economic recovery plan, a bailout plan, a budget and a major foreign policy address.

All have been bold. But people who were surprised by that boldness have not been paying attention.

It was just a little more than two years ago, on a very cold day in Springfield, Ill., that Obama announced for the presidency by saying he was running “not just to hold an office but to gather with you to transform a nation.”

And in his first few weeks in office, he has been practicing transformative politics. Without apology. Some of this has been forced upon him. Faced with the collapse of the economy, he could hardly afford to be timid in his response.

But making far-reaching changes in health care, education and energy policy in this nation is something he promised from the very beginning.

In his radio address last Saturday, Obama said: “I didn’t come here to do the same thing we’ve been doing or to take small steps forward.” He said he came to Washington “to provide the sweeping change that this country demanded when it went to the polls in November.”

Nobody can say they were sold a pig in a poke. The differences between Obama and his agenda and John McCain and his agenda were very clear.

Obama never promised small government. He never promised tax breaks for the wealthy.

He promised to do big, sweeping, transformative things — and if it is going to take big, sweeping, transformative government to do that, well, that was part of the deal.


And there is no reason for him to wait. His popularity is high and his opposition is in disarray.

In fact, “disarray” may be too kind a word. When Rush Limbaugh is the best-known face of the opposition, disarray may not fully describe the predicament the Republican Party now finds itself in.

Michael Steele, who holds the title of chairman of the Republican National Committee, is understandably miffed at Limbaugh these days. Everybody knows Rush, but who knows Steele? “Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer; Rush Limbaugh’s whole thing is entertainment,” Steele sniffed to CNN over the weekend.

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel thinks it is more than that. As Emanuel said Sunday on “Face the Nation With Bob Schieffer,” Limbaugh “is the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.”

Limbaugh would not disagree. He has a clear vision of America. And in his one-hour-and-15-minute speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Saturday, he outlined it.

“So here we have two systems,” Limbaugh said. “We have socialism, collectivism, Stalin, whatever you want to call it, versus capitalism.”

And that’s it. Obama and the Democrats represent Stalin, and Limbaugh and the Republicans represent capitalism. Take your pick.

But doesn’t it make you kind of wonder why the American people picked Obama and the Democrats last November?

How did that happen, exactly? Was it mass hypnosis? Were we bewitched?

Or were we just tired of the endless hyperpartisanship, the endless name calling, the endless demonizing of the opposition to “energize the base” and the endless refusal to develop real solutions to real problems?

Yeah, that could be it.

Obama identified it in his inaugural address. “What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them, that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply,” he said.

The Republicans can try to fashion a future by going back to the past. But that effort may be doomed to have no value except entertainment value.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2009, 08:07:20 AM »
Obama's bold. What did you expect?
By: Roger Simon
March 3, 2009

The Obama presidency has started off in a whirlwind. It has been a headlong rush. This is not small-bite politics. This is not school uniforms.

With hardly a pause to take a deep breath, Barack Obama has presented an economic recovery plan, a bailout plan, a budget and a major foreign policy address.

All have been bold. But people who were surprised by that boldness have not been paying attention.

It was just a little more than two years ago, on a very cold day in Springfield, Ill., that Obama announced for the presidency by saying he was running “not just to hold an office but to gather with you to transform a nation.”

And in his first few weeks in office, he has been practicing transformative politics. Without apology. Some of this has been forced upon him. Faced with the collapse of the economy, he could hardly afford to be timid in his response.

But making far-reaching changes in health care, education and energy policy in this nation is something he promised from the very beginning.

In his radio address last Saturday, Obama said: “I didn’t come here to do the same thing we’ve been doing or to take small steps forward.” He said he came to Washington “to provide the sweeping change that this country demanded when it went to the polls in November.”

Nobody can say they were sold a pig in a poke. The differences between Obama and his agenda and John McCain and his agenda were very clear.

Obama never promised small government. He never promised tax breaks for the wealthy.

He promised to do big, sweeping, transformative things — and if it is going to take big, sweeping, transformative government to do that, well, that was part of the deal.


And there is no reason for him to wait. His popularity is high and his opposition is in disarray.

In fact, “disarray” may be too kind a word. When Rush Limbaugh is the best-known face of the opposition, disarray may not fully describe the predicament the Republican Party now finds itself in.

Michael Steele, who holds the title of chairman of the Republican National Committee, is understandably miffed at Limbaugh these days. Everybody knows Rush, but who knows Steele? “Rush Limbaugh is an entertainer; Rush Limbaugh’s whole thing is entertainment,” Steele sniffed to CNN over the weekend.

White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel thinks it is more than that. As Emanuel said Sunday on “Face the Nation With Bob Schieffer,” Limbaugh “is the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.”

Limbaugh would not disagree. He has a clear vision of America. And in his one-hour-and-15-minute speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Saturday, he outlined it.

“So here we have two systems,” Limbaugh said. “We have socialism, collectivism, Stalin, whatever you want to call it, versus capitalism.”

And that’s it. Obama and the Democrats represent Stalin, and Limbaugh and the Republicans represent capitalism. Take your pick.

But doesn’t it make you kind of wonder why the American people picked Obama and the Democrats last November?

How did that happen, exactly? Was it mass hypnosis? Were we bewitched?

Or were we just tired of the endless hyperpartisanship, the endless name calling, the endless demonizing of the opposition to “energize the base” and the endless refusal to develop real solutions to real problems?

Yeah, that could be it.

Obama identified it in his inaugural address. “What the cynics fail to understand is that the ground has shifted beneath them, that the stale political arguments that have consumed us for so long no longer apply,” he said.

The Republicans can try to fashion a future by going back to the past. But that effort may be doomed to have no value except entertainment value.

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I expected exactly what we are getting.

1.  More bailouts like TARP
2.  Dropping charges against terrorists
3.  Card Check
4.  Gun control
5.  Cap & Trade taxes
6.  Stock market tanking.


BTW - you claim to be a finance guy - what do you think about Jim Cramer last night calling Obama a "radical communist"????   


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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2009, 08:10:42 AM »
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I expected exactly what we are getting.

1.  More bailouts like TARP
2.  Dropping charges against terrorists
3.  Card Check
4.  Gun control
5.  Cap & Trade taxes
6.  Stock market tanking.


BTW - you claim to be a finance guy - what do you think about Jim Cramer last night calling Obama a "radical communist"????   



The dude likes Obama because he is black and Obama is black. His only reason. Kind of lame.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2009, 08:29:41 AM »
The dude likes Obama because he is black and Obama is black. His only reason. Kind of lame.
The same reason I'm a HUGE fan of Alan Keyes and Clarence Thomas, no doubt.  ::)

You certainly would know something about being lame...Mr. I Can't Get Laid Inc All Of Asia So I'll Spill All My Problems On Getbig And Talk About Killing Myself.  :-\
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2009, 08:36:36 AM »
The same reason I'm a HUGE fan of Alan Keyes and Clarence Thomas, no doubt.  ::)

You certainly would know something about being lame...Mr. I Can't Get Laid Inc All Of Asia So I'll Spill All My Problems On Getbig And Talk About Killing Myself.  :-\

I am not in Asia. I am doing my MA now. I am doing much better thank you. And it does not get lamer than spanking off to a pic of Obama as you likely do.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2009, 08:39:08 AM »
Bold and stupid are used interchangeably in Obama's case.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2009, 08:40:25 AM »
I am not in Asia. I am doing my MA now. I am doing much better thank you. And it does not get lamer than spanking off to a pic of Obama as you likely do.
Are you another person interested in speculating on my masturbation habits?  ???
It is extremely abnormal for a straight male to be concerned about such things. There is another dude on this board that I can introduce you to...he appears to be into the same shit. The two of you can exchange pics of each other jerking off, just please leave me out of it.  :-X
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2009, 08:43:01 AM »
Are you another person interested in speculating on my masturbation habits?  ???
It is extremely abnormal for a straight male to be concerned about such things. There is another dude on this board that I can introduce you to...he appears to be into the same shit. The two of you can exchange pics of each other jerking off, just please leave me out of it.  :-X

You ignore the facts as usual:

Jim Cramer called Obama a radical communist last night on his show.

As a finance person as you claim to be, do you agree or disagree?

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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2009, 08:44:43 AM »
I didnt expect Obama to purposely attempt to destroy the country.Incredibly,he and his spokesman say they dont care about the stockmarket going down.Wow,yes,who cares if peoples 401ks are in ruins.You see,Obamas people,the ones he organsised in Chicago,dont have 401ks,or jobs for that matter,so those are the only people the Messiah cares about.So,the stock market going down only hurts middle class Americans and the rich and they only care about the unproductive loosers of our society.

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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2009, 08:48:55 AM »
Are you another person interested in speculating on my masturbation habits?  ???
It is extremely abnormal for a straight male to be concerned about such things. There is another dude on this board that I can introduce you to...he appears to be into the same shit. The two of you can exchange pics of each other jerking off, just please leave me out of it.  :-X

Right......your blind loyalty to Lord Obama is baffling, whatever its reasons!
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2009, 08:52:58 AM »
Right......your blind loyalty to Lord Obama is baffling, whatever its reasons!

Jim Cramer said last night that no matter what Obama nd Pelosi touch they will destroy. 

He is a democrat himself and sees the writing on the wall.

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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2009, 08:54:49 AM »
Jim Cramer said last night that no matter what Obama nd Pelosi touch they will destroy. 

He is a democrat himself and sees the writing on the wall.

Just for the record, I am an Independent. I don't like the Republicans either.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2009, 08:55:01 AM »
I didnt expect Obama to purposely attempt to destroy the country.Incredibly,he and his spokesman say they dont care about the stockmarket going down.Wow,yes,who cares if peoples 401ks are in ruins.You see,Obamas people,the ones he organsised in Chicago,dont have 401ks,or jobs for that matter,so those are the only people the Messiah cares about.So,the stock market going down only hurts middle class Americans and the rich and they only care about the unproductive loosers of our society.
The use of the term "messiah" is an interesting one. It was the same term used by bigots and Klansmen in describing Martin Luther King in the 1950s and 1960s. These are the people who cheered when Dr. King was murdered and jeered Blacks with, "Where's your messiah now?" No surprise "BILLY MINIMUM" can be associated with those types, since he is getbig's resident racist pedophile. ::)
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2009, 08:57:33 AM »
The use of the term "messiah" is an interesting one. It was the same term used by bigots and Klansmen in describing Martin Luther King in the 1950s and 1960s. These are the people who cheered when Dr. King was murdered and jeered Blacks with, "Where's your messiah now?" No surprise "BILLY MINIMUM" can be associated with those types, since he is getbig's resident racist pedophile. ::)

That term "messiah" is used because Obama and his followers refered to himself as "the one we have being waiting for."

What does that mean to you?

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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2009, 08:59:11 AM »
Sorry,irt was that fat slob Oprah who called him "THE ONE" as in the chosen one,not me.However,Im one of the ones that would have cheared the slaying of King.A dirty rabble rouser who got what he desrved for sticking his nose in the souths buisiness.Here is a song celebrating the great James Earl Ray.By the way,you calling me a racist is a compliment not an insult.Do you also call Jesse Jackson a racist,after all he used to spit in white peoples food.I never would do that to blacks.


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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2009, 08:59:33 AM »
The use of the term "messiah" is an interesting one. It was the same term used by bigots and Klansmen in describing Martin Luther King in the 1950s and 1960s. These are the people who cheered when Dr. King was murdered and jeered Blacks with, "Where's your messiah now?" No surprise "BILLY MINIMUM" can be associated with those types, since he is getbig's resident racist pedophile. ::)

The only thing you care about is Obama's status as a black man. Is he changing foreign policy? Is he changing the monetary system? No. By their deeds shall ye know them.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2009, 09:13:15 AM »
Obama has never held a real job or done anything of substance and people believed he would actually do good for the country...lol.  Radical leaders don't want to talk to him, he inspires zero confidence in the market, wants to spend every cent we and the next three generations have all so lazy people who don't WANT to work can have a piece of the pie.  His approval rating has dropped a lot in a very short time and even his own party is starting to see that he is no "Messiah" but more like "Damien" from The Omen.  Fucking pathetic that so called intellectuals and young people were duped by Barry.  Being a young charismatic black man made him the "attractive" and "progressive" choice but as he drives the economy down I'm sure many of the college students that voted for him will start to turn as they flip burgers...with their Master's degree hanging on the wall.  History is cyclical and we are seeing a black Jimmy Carter.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2009, 09:44:38 AM »
where you been deicide i gotta admit ive missed you on the religion board and your pessimistic views and constant whinning about women.

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« Reply #18 on: March 03, 2009, 09:48:21 AM »
where you been deicide i gotta admit ive missed you on the religion board and your pessimistic views and constant whinning about women.

Uhmm...not sure how to greet that... ???
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #19 on: March 03, 2009, 09:51:27 AM »
Uhmm...not sure how to greet that... ???
no worries bro was meant to be a good natured ribbing, good to see you back

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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #20 on: March 03, 2009, 09:58:29 AM »
no worries bro was meant to be a good natured ribbing, good to see you back

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« Reply #21 on: March 03, 2009, 10:01:16 AM »
Yeah, good to be back. Life is kinda good these days.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #22 on: March 03, 2009, 11:11:46 AM »
You ignore the facts as usual:

Jim Cramer called Obama a radical communist last night on his show.

As a finance person as you claim to be, do you agree or disagree?

Give him time to find an article to answer the question for him.
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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2009, 11:58:22 AM »
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I expected exactly what we are getting.

1.  More bailouts like TARP
2.  Dropping charges against terrorists
3.  Card Check
4.  Gun control
5.  Cap & Trade taxes
6.  Stock market tanking.


BTW - you claim to be a finance guy - what do you think about Jim Cramer last night calling Obama a "radical communist"????   



In other words, (to borrow a phrase from a former NFL coach) “OBAMA IS WHO WE THOUGHT HE WAS!!”……and we let him off the hook (at least until 2012)!!!

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Re: Obama's bold. What did you expect?
« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2009, 12:01:49 PM »
Obama has never held a real job or done anything of substance and people believed he would actually do good for the country...lol.  Radical leaders don't want to talk to him, he inspires zero confidence in the market, wants to spend every cent we and the next three generations have all so lazy people who don't WANT to work can have a piece of the pie.  His approval rating has dropped a lot in a very short time and even his own party is starting to see that he is no "Messiah" but more like "Damien" from The Omen.  Fucking pathetic that so called intellectuals and young people were duped by Barry.  Being a young charismatic black man made him the "attractive" and "progressive" choice but as he drives the economy down I'm sure many of the college students that voted for him will start to turn as they flip burgers...with their Master's degree hanging on the wall.  History is cyclical and we are seeing a black Jimmy Carter.

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