Author Topic: Blame Dorian for the state of modern BBing...... (Read 7674 times)

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #100 on:** March 26, 2009, 03:50:01 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 03:43:06 PM

I may not have explicitly said "contest shape" when I doubted him being 5'9" and 270, but that's what I meant - because 270 lbs offseason is hardly what's considered a "mass monster" or comparable to Nasser (who was sometimes 330 with abs in the offseason). Yes, I believe offseason Vic can weigh 270, but at 3% bodyfat or the condition at which Nasser weighed 280 - not a chance

330 with abs means what? Dorian has an x-mas tree at 300lbs does that mean he was shredded? NO it means he doesn't carry much bodyfat in that area regardless of how big he gets , His back was soft the heavier he became , Dorian's back didn't

Vic was never in ' contest shape ' so all we can do is speculate but make no mistake he was a mass monster long before Nasser

bigbobs · « **Reply #101 on:** March 26, 2009, 03:53:09 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2009, 03:50:01 PM

330 with abs means what? Dorian has an x-mas tree at 300lbs does that mean he was shredded? NO it means he doesn't carry much bodyfat in that area regardless of how big he gets , His back was soft the heavier he became , Dorian's back didn't

Vic was never in ' contest shape ' so all we can do is speculate but make no mistake he was a mass monster long before Nasser

Guess your standards for what constitutes a "mass monster" are lower than Nasser's

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #102 on:** March 26, 2009, 03:59:03 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 03:53:09 PM

Guess your standards for what constitutes a "mass monster" are lower than Nasser's

My standards? yeah 5'9" and 275 pounds isn't a mass monster lol oh wait this was in the late eighties early nineties , when Nasser was petite

bigbobs · « **Reply #103 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:02:52 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2009, 03:59:03 PM

My standards? yeah 5'9" and 275 pounds isn't a mass monster lol oh wait this was in the late eighties early nineties , when Nasser was petite

You can claim Vic is 320 lbs in this pic, it won't make any difference....point is compared to Nasser he is not a mass monster. Mass monsters = Ronnie, Ruhl, Fux, Nasser, a few others...but not Vic

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #104 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:05:05 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 04:02:52 PM

You can claim Vic is 320 lbs in this pic, it won't make any difference....point is compared to Nasser he is not a mass monster. Mass monsters = Ronnie, Ruhl, Fux, Nasser, a few others...but not Vic

I never claimed Vic is 320 pounds in that pic , he's 275 pounds it says it right there

point is he was the original mass monster and even compared to all of the above when he's 300 or above you're damn right he is

bigbobs · « **Reply #105 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:07:07 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2009, 04:05:05 PM

I never claimed Vic is 320 pounds in that pic , he's 275 pounds it says it right there point is he was the original mass monster and even compared to all of the above when he's 300 or above you're damn right he is

Whatever you claim his weight to be (even if it's true) doesn't make a difference. He looks small compared to Nasser. Therefore, he's not a mass monster.

d0nny2600 · « **Reply #106 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:08:07 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 04:07:07 PM

Whatever you claim his weight to be (even if it's true) doesn't make a difference. He looks small compared to Nasser. Therefore, he's not a mass monster.

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #107 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:12:29 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 04:07:07 PM

Whatever you claim his weight to be (even if it's true) doesn't make a difference. He looks small compared to Nasser. Therefore, he's not a mass monster.

Ha ha ha ha that's the criteria? you can't tell how he looks next to Nasser unless he was standing NEXT to Nasser which never happened and Dorian weighs less than Nasser yet in many pics he looks bigger , same with Ronnie pics can be deceptive

lovemonkey · « **Reply #108 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:14:56 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2009, 04:12:29 PM

Ha ha ha ha that's the criteria? you can't tell how he looks next to Nasser unless he was standing NEXT to Nasser which never happened and Dorian weighs less than Nasser yet in many pics he looks bigger , same with Ronnie pics can be deceptive

Remember, bigbobs can only see the world in Nasser's favor.

bigbobs · « **Reply #109 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:16:31 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2009, 04:12:29 PM

Ha ha ha ha that's the criteria? you can't tell how he looks next to Nasser unless he was standing NEXT to Nasser which never happened and Dorian weighs less than Nasser yet in many pics he looks bigger , same with Ronnie pics can be deceptive

Okay by that logic I am a mass monster compared to Vic too then, you can't deny it since I'm not standing NEXT to Vic in any pictures

And where are these "many" pics where Yates looks bigger than Nasser lmao? (only lat width in some poses and waist in all poses)

d0nny2600 · « **Reply #110 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:18:20 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 04:16:31 PM

Okay by that logic I am a mass monster compared to Vic too then, you can't deny it since I'm not standing NEXT to Vic in any pictures

And where are these "many" pics where Yates looks bigger than Nasser lmao? (only lat width in some poses and waist in all poses)

Can you actually look at bb with an open mind or is it just an epic man crush on Nasser?

bigbobs · « **Reply #111 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:20:26 PM »

Quote from: d0nny2600 on March 26, 2009, 04:18:20 PM

Can you actually look at bb with an open mind or is it just an epic man crush on Nasser?

Read my posts - I said the same about Ronnie, Ruhl, Fux a few others and of course Nasser - Vic does not compare to them in terms of being a mass monster.

Can you actually read threads with an open mind or just with hatred towards Nasser?

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #112 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:26:46 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 04:16:31 PM

Okay by that logic I am a mass monster compared to Vic too then, you can't deny it since I'm not standing NEXT to Vic in any pictures

And where are these "many" pics where Yates looks bigger than Nasser lmao? (only lat width in some poses and waist in all poses)

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Okay by that logic I am a mass monster compared to Vic too then, you can't deny it since I'm not standing NEXT to Vic in any pictures

no I don't think so , it's a matter of probability and we all know you're not as big or as heavy as him so we can toss that line of thought in the garbage where it belongs

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And where are these "many" pics where Yates looks bigger than Nasser lmao? (only lat width in some poses and waist in all poses)

yeah okay

more than width and there are plenty of pics of Ronnie making Nasser look petite pictures only go so far and more to size than size , size at the expense of density is useless

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #113 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:28:37 PM »

Quote from: d0nny2600 on March 26, 2009, 04:18:20 PM

Can you actually look at bb with an open mind or is it just an epic man crush on Nasser?

He is biased to the point of delusion when it comes to Nasser this is true.

bigbobs · « **Reply #114 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:34:00 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 26, 2009, 04:26:46 PM

no I don't think so , it's a matter of probability and we all know you're not as big or as heavy as him so we can toss that line of thought in the garbage where it belongs

yeah okay more than width and there are plenty of pics of Ronnie making Nasser look petite pictures only go so far and more to size than size , size at the expense of density is useless

Yates demonstrating his incredible density over Nasser

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #115 on:** March 26, 2009, 04:46:18 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 04:34:00 PM

Yates demonstrating his incredible density over Nasser

ha ha ha ha Yates destroys Nasser in density and your strawman comparisons prove nothing , Nasser was pretty hard himself FROM THE FRONT his back was soft and smooth , you can post all the front shots you want and think they mean something , Dorian even with the torn front bicep kills Nasser in that front double biceps shot , the walking down the steps in 1997 proves nothing , I'll post a back shot from 1997 of Yates clearly showing his density over Nasser , standing relaxed 1995 ? Dorian isn't even hitting the shot , see the bottom pic , and the handsclasped most muscular proves my point despite being lighter Dorian looks bigger , thanks for helping my case

Dorian is dense EVERYWHERE not just from the front like Nasser

just_a_pilgrim · « **Reply #116 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:09:47 PM »

If Nasser wasn't harder than Dorian at 270 how could he be harder at 330? Dorian just didn't want have to lose so much to get in shape because the one year he did it, 1986, he felt he lost gains dieting it all off. The next few years he stayed harder offseason and thus ended up with more muscle come contest time.

Fatpanda · « **Reply #117 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:11:17 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 03, 2009, 10:50:57 AM

Nasser pushed the envelope even further in the offseason reaching up to 330 lbs with abs

(311 lbs in the last picture)

nasser looked amazing in those pics. i'd have loved to see him in person at that size

or any size

Fatpanda · « **Reply #118 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:13:25 PM »

Quote from: Parker on March 03, 2009, 01:04:16 PM

And Victor Richard would have made him looked like a kid. That's if we are talking about Off season.

parker i have another edition of that video, and the clip shows vic and dorian in the same shot posing, dorian beats him on size

so huge nasser would have him for lunch.

New Hank Wood · « **Reply #119 on:** March 26, 2009, 05:50:49 PM »

Many blame Dorian for the rise of the Mass Monsters.

Sure, he did usher in a new era of gluttonous-size and bloatedness. However, he is far from responsible for beginning this insidious era of obscenity!

Dorian and his cohorts were just part of a culture.

Sure, he embraced this culture with unbridled excessiveness!

Dballn247 · « **Reply #120 on:** March 26, 2009, 09:20:27 PM »

Nasser = the best lazy eye in the business.

New Hank Wood · « **Reply #121 on:** March 26, 2009, 10:40:45 PM »

I don't blame one broken down alcoholic for the state of this sport!

As much as i don't blame a wife beating, bitter, oil-in-delts Nobody

As long as this sport continues to promote the likes of rapefruiter-Pornographers, there is no hope for a bright and credible future!

Dballn247 · « **Reply #122 on:** March 26, 2009, 10:42:18 PM »

Quote from: New Hank Wood on March 26, 2009, 10:40:45 PM

I don't blame one broken down alcoholic for the state of this sport!

As much as i don't blame a wife beating, bitter, oil-in-delts Nobody

As long as this sport continues to promote the likes of rapefruiter-Pornographers, there is no hope for a bright and credible future!

hahaha you said sport, that was funny.

dyslexic · « **Reply #123 on:** March 26, 2009, 11:10:06 PM »

mossel · « **Reply #124 on:** March 27, 2009, 06:29:16 AM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 26, 2009, 03:53:09 PM

Guess your standards for what constitutes a "mass monster" are lower than Nasser's

vic owning nasser forearms wise... (nas left arm comparison)