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Re: RUSSIAN SAYS USA WILL FALL APART!!!
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2009, 05:49:41 PM »
don't be a dummy....Russia is the country which is falling apart....this has been going on since they lost the soviet empire...their industry is ancient and rusting and falling apart.....there is wide spread corruption and theft by the citizens, politicians and organized crime....Their military is is outdated and populated by huge amounts of drunks....they couldn't even beat the Taliban and retreated from afghanistan while the U.S. beat them easily and drove them out of the country.....and yes they do have a sizable minority population of asians who are beaten up and discriminated against to the point where they hate Russia and will want to sucede as the white russian population goes down due to their high mortality rates and their falling life expectancy due to alcoholism and a backward healthcare system..do your research

russia lost to the taliban because america supplied them with the guns to fight back. then russia did the same for the taliban against america.

you think america is going to defeat the taliban when 250,000 Russians couldnt. you need to take your head out of your all mighty american ass. you couldnt defeat vietnam let alone the taliban

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« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2009, 06:03:12 PM »
We are in big trouble right now, but so is everyone else.  I do predict massive civil unrest in the US within the next couple of years.  It's going to get much worse before it gets better. 

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« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2009, 06:20:31 PM »
russia lost to the taliban because america supplied them with the guns to fight back. then russia did the same for the taliban against america.

you think america is going to defeat the taliban when 250,000 Russians couldnt. you need to take your head out of your all mighty american ass. you couldnt defeat vietnam let alone the taliban

An incredibly amateur and shallow analysis. And the USSR didn't lose to the Taliban, they lost to the Muhjahadeen. The Taliban that came to control large swaths of Afghanistan was born out of Islamic Radicals that morphed with the Muhjahadeen that relocated to the tribal areas in Pakistan. The Taliban split from the core and came to be at odds with the Northern Alliance.

Plus, it wasn't just the U.S. that was supplying weapons. It was China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt...the list goes on. And do you have any proof the Russia has been officially supplying arms to the Taliban?

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« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2009, 07:38:51 PM »
russia lost to the taliban because america supplied them with the guns to fight back. then russia did the same for the taliban against america.

you think america is going to defeat the taliban when 250,000 Russians couldnt. you need to take your head out of your all mighty american ass. you couldnt defeat vietnam let alone the taliban


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all American troops were withdrawn by March 29, 1973 per the Nixon Doctrine. 
Fall of Saigon was April 30, 1975.   
Hard to lose when you're not playing.

last time i checked most vietnamese still don't have shoes, and live in huts made of wood, straw and leaves with dirt floors.     

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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2009, 07:39:56 PM »
even so, the USA will ALWAYS be ahead of Russia and the rest of the worl.

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« Reply #30 on: March 05, 2009, 10:07:35 PM »
An incredibly amateur and shallow analysis. And the USSR didn't lose to the Taliban, they lost to the Muhjahadeen. The Taliban that came to control large swaths of Afghanistan was born out of Islamic Radicals that morphed with the Muhjahadeen that relocated to the tribal areas in Pakistan. The Taliban split from the core and came to be at odds with the Northern Alliance.

Plus, it wasn't just the U.S. that was supplying weapons. It was China, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt...the list goes on. And do you have any proof the Russia has been officially supplying arms to the Taliban?

1. if an old afgan man says to me america supplied the taliban to defeat russia i am going to believe him because of the simple fact he was there.

2. america supplied taliban because they were scared the russians were going to take it over.

3. hell yes russia will give the afgans on the simple fact that they feel they lost because of america and they also hate yous

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« Reply #31 on: March 05, 2009, 10:42:11 PM »
http://nachrichten.t-online.de/c/17/99/99/26/17999926.html

the text is german
maybe donkey kong can translate it better than me but i can try

he says that the usa will break up in 6 states and that russia and china will be the new world leaders

BABELFISH TRANSLATION

A Moscow official forecasts decay of the USA
Appeared on 05. March 2009 | Of Mike Eckel.

AP
A high-ranking coworker of the Russian State Department forecast the imminent decay of the USA. President Barack Obama will impose military law in this year, said Igor Panarin the dean of the diplomat academy, during a lecture in Moscow. The USA will disintegrate in his opinion in 2011 into six trunk states, and Russia and China will form the backbone of a new world order. The recent economic turbulences in the USA and other " social and cultural phenomena" will usher in the forthcoming breakup of the USA into six autonomous regions. Alaska will then be turned over again to Russian control, this was said before dozens of students, professors and diplomats. The Russian State Department had invited foreign media to the lecture.
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« Reply #32 on: March 05, 2009, 11:09:06 PM »
The U.S. is middle of the pack in infant mortality rates when compared to other industrialized nations.
That this is coming from someone defending the U.S. makes it all the more sad and condemning.

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« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2009, 08:22:54 PM »
russia lost to the taliban because america supplied them with the guns to fight back. then russia did the same for the taliban against america.

you think america is going to defeat the taliban when 250,000 Russians couldnt. you need to take your head out of your all mighty american ass. you couldnt defeat vietnam let alone the taliban

Doesn't matter that the USA supplied arms to the Mujadeen..they still had the WILL to fight the Russians and eventually beat them......you can supply arms to people but it doesn't mean they will still fight...look at the south vietnamese..as soon as we left they gave up

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« Reply #34 on: March 07, 2009, 02:21:50 AM »
BABELFISH TRANSLATION

A Moscow official forecasts decay of the USA
Appeared on 05. March 2009 | Of Mike Eckel.

AP
A high-ranking coworker of the Russian State Department forecast the imminent decay of the USA. President Barack Obama will impose military law in this year, said Igor Panarin the dean of the diplomat academy, during a lecture in Moscow. The USA will disintegrate in his opinion in 2011 into six trunk states, and Russia and China will form the backbone of a new world order. The recent economic turbulences in the USA and other " social and cultural phenomena" will usher in the forthcoming breakup of the USA into six autonomous regions. Alaska will then be turned over again to Russian control, this was said before dozens of students, professors and diplomats. The Russian State Department had invited foreign media to the lecture.


Why don't u post the rest of this article where the media present, asked him why this summary sounded more like Russia then America. Or that this guy worked or still works for the KGB and its successor. Further, this guy is preaching to people that want to believe this shit to compensate for the declining oil revenues and social unrest in that country.

Russia is a mess, their military is a shambles. I'd invite u to watch the Georgian invasion and show me who the hell in Europe or elsewhere is quaking over the once vaunted Soviet Army. They're an undiciplined mob of draftee rejects. Their pilots had to engage the same target packages over Tiblisi and elswhere, many times before scoring hits. They invaded wiuth 30 year old junk, the same junk we left rusting in the Kuwaiti and Iraqi desert in 1991 and 2003. The same junk the Israeli's have been shit beating since 1948. 

Afghanistan is another matter. We supported the Mujhi's, not the Taliban. The Taliban did not exist as such and were a creation of the Pakistani ISI, that took on a political life of its own after the Soviets left and the Northern Alliance could not stabilize the country. Afghanistan is not Iraq, there are very few  people who identify themselves as Afghni. There are multiple ethic and tribal factions that all ork against each other. Alliances don't last. They are the stereotypical what have u done for me lately country, and we have continues to give them handouts. Obama is making a mistake if he thinks 30,000 more troops will make a difference. This is a SOF war. Petreus believes he can buy off about 90% of the "Taliban" or insurgents, and he's right. He will also try and spread troops out into the smaller villages. Having been there, its very hard to support troops like this. Iraq is very easy to move around, Afghanistan just isn't like this. I think his plan will work in the short term but since Pakistan is rapidly failing, I;m not sure where we go from here. Obama has neither the will or desire to win in Afghanistan, and will pull out before the next election. His shortsighted approach will lead to another 911.
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Re: RUSSIAN SAYS USA WILL FALL APART!!!
« Reply #35 on: March 07, 2009, 02:59:32 AM »
Haha kind of hard to buy off 90% of the Taliban when America is bankrupt and the dollar is about to collapse.  Mr. CIA Green Beret. 

Say what you want about Russia.  They have perservered through a lot of shit.  What has America dealt with in the last 50 years?  We've been on top of the world for a long time.  That's about to change and how we deal with it and make it through is going to be a huge test.  We have nothing to fall back on.  Russia has vast amounts of natural resources i.e. timber, oil, natural gas etc.  They may not have a $600 billion dollar defense budget but they will outlast most during this economic crisis.  I have absolutely zero respect for the Russian government or the US government.  But I will say the US citizens better grow some balls and suck it up.......the Russian people have us beat in that department.  Americans can't seem to go two hours without their Iphones and Britney Spears.  Russian people know hardship.  Americans don't.  It's been 70 years since the Great Depression.  We better get our shit together. 

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« Reply #36 on: March 07, 2009, 05:09:53 AM »
We are in big trouble right now, but so is everyone else.  I do predict massive civil unrest in the US within the next couple of years.

No chance what-so-ever.


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Re: RUSSIAN SAYS USA WILL FALL APART!!!
« Reply #37 on: March 07, 2009, 06:34:07 AM »
more 691000 unemployed in februar
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« Reply #38 on: March 07, 2009, 07:04:11 AM »
more 691000 unemployed in februar

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« Reply #39 on: March 07, 2009, 11:28:15 AM »
Haha kind of hard to buy off 90% of the Taliban when America is bankrupt and the dollar is about to collapse.  Mr. CIA Green Beret. 

Say what you want about Russia.  They have perservered through a lot of shit.  What has America dealt with in the last 50 years?  We've been on top of the world for a long time.  That's about to change and how we deal with it and make it through is going to be a huge test.  We have nothing to fall back on.  Russia has vast amounts of natural resources i.e. timber, oil, natural gas etc.  They may not have a $600 billion dollar defense budget but they will outlast most during this economic crisis.  I have absolutely zero respect for the Russian government or the US government.  But I will say the US citizens better grow some balls and suck it up.......the Russian people have us beat in that department.  Americans can't seem to go two hours without their Iphones and Britney Spears.  Russian people know hardship.  Americans don't.  It's been 70 years since the Great Depression.  We better get our shit together. 

Muscles really...when u have no idea what bullshit ur talking about..just shut up.. IF u hate America so much, move. Its obvious u have alot of self hate, some sorta white guilt about the US. The Russian people are used to being shit on. They can't handle democracy only getting stepped on. A real group to be admired. Oh and when u can offer any informed opinion on Afghanistan, based on any kind or real world experience, please offer it up. I won't hold my breath.
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« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2009, 12:27:38 PM »
the russians and chinese will eventually conquer the usa.  simply put, they dont have other races (hispanics, blacks in the usa) to cause internal conflict and slow the progress of the nation.

You've got to be kidding right?

Soviets have one of the most diverse populations on the planet. It was their diversity that gave them their strength.
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« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2009, 12:31:26 PM »
Muscles really...when u have no idea what bullshit ur talking about..just shut up.. IF u hate America so much, move. Its obvious u have alot of self hate, some sorta white guilt about the US. The Russian people are used to being shit on. They can't handle democracy only getting stepped on. A real group to be admired. Oh and when u can offer any informed opinion on Afghanistan, based on any kind or real world experience, please offer it up. I won't hold my breath.

Dude, what is with this attitude you've got that, in your opinion, no one has any "idea" of any "real" issues except you? Are you that full of shit GI Joe?

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« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2009, 05:17:53 PM »
Muscles really...when u have no idea what bullshit ur talking about..just shut up.. IF u hate America so much, move. Its obvious u have alot of self hate, some sorta white guilt about the US. The Russian people are used to being shit on. They can't handle democracy only getting stepped on. A real group to be admired. Oh and when u can offer any informed opinion on Afghanistan, based on any kind or real world experience, please offer it up. I won't hold my breath.


I hate my government not my country.  You of all people should understand that difference soldier. 

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« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2009, 08:22:20 PM »

I hate my government not my country.  You of all people should understand that difference soldier. 


If he hasn't been able to make that distinction, or grasp that concept over the course of the past 8 years,
...do you honestly think it's going to come to him in less than 2 months?! {lol} MuscleMcMannus=teh funny!  ;D
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« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2009, 10:41:39 PM »
You've got to be kidding right?

Soviets have one of the most diverse populations on the planet. It was their diversity that gave them their strength.

hahaahahahaHAHAHAHAHAH

*gasp*

AAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHHA...

Ya, The Soviet Union was strong because of its diversity.....

What the f..........

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« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2009, 11:40:49 PM »
Dude, what is with this attitude you've got that, in your opinion, no one has any "idea" of any "real" issues except you? Are you that full of shit GI Joe?
Slapper unless u've read every post by this dipshit, then u wouldn't understand. And no he has no idea what the hell he's talking about when it comes to the military.
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« Reply #46 on: March 08, 2009, 11:08:21 AM »

I hate my government not my country.  You of all people should understand that difference soldier. 

the government that you hate has kept your ass safe and given you the freedom to hate it...try hating the government in russia or china and being open about it...watch what happens next... ::)

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« Reply #47 on: March 08, 2009, 12:24:45 PM »
NYT

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/08/world/europe/08ossetia.html

TSKHINVALI, Georgia — Six months after Russia and Georgia fought a war over South Ossetia, the enclave’s capital city is still a mass of fresh scars.

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Buildings in a village north of Tskhinvali, the capital of the Georgian enclave of South Ossetia, still bear the marks of last year’s war between Russia and Georgia.

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Some projects are under way in Tskhinvali, but the pace has been slowed by many problems, the enclave’s president said.
Many people in Tskhinvali are shivering through the winter behind windows made of plastic sheeting. Piles of broken glass and trash — in one case, the charred turret of a Georgian tank — sit along central boulevards, as they did in August. Stray dogs, their owners long gone, nose around the streets for food.

There are reminders of the euphoria that swept this valley last summer, when Russia acknowledged South Ossetia’s 18-year separatist struggle by recognizing it as a sovereign nation. Graffiti proclaims “Ossetia thanks its defenders” and “Great Russia,” and citizens say they are extraordinarily grateful to be free of Georgian rule.

But it has been a hard winter, and reconstruction is moving slowly. The South Ossetian president, Eduard Kokoity, said the process had been delayed by price gouging and shoddy workmanship by unscrupulous contractors in the first round of reconstruction, and he promised that the pace would pick up this spring. Residents, many of whom scrounged materials and patched up their homes themselves, are beginning to wonder when the promised aid will reach them.

“We have no running water at home,” said Maria Pliyeva, 25, a reporter for 21st Century, a newspaper in Tskhinvali. “It’s not just an inconvenience. It’s embarrassing to speak about a government of a country which is seeking recognition when you have no running water.”

The halting reconstruction underlines the challenge facing South Ossetia, a rural patch of land whose prewar population was 70,000, even as Russia has elevated it into a national symbol. When Georgia began an assault on the separatist capital on Aug. 7, Russia sent columns of armor to protect its allies.

Russians saw the attack on Tskhinvali, which they call by its Ossetian name, Tskhinval, as a watershed moment akin to the Sept. 11 attacks, and aid pledges flooded in. Trucks bearing donations were backed up on Tskhinvali’s streets, and billboards all over Moscow promised “Tskhinval, we are with you!”

But nearly two decades of bitter conflict with Georgia have left the enclave with only two factories that produce building materials. (One makes asphalt and the other the clear plastic to cover broken windows, said an aide to Mr. Kokoity.) South Ossetia can no longer count on supplies from Georgia, as residents learned when deliveries of natural gas halted for the coldest months of the winter.

Meanwhile, the narrow highway that links the enclave to Russia is plagued by avalanches and impassable for much of the winter. Even in good weather, shipments coming from the north are vulnerable to theft and diversion. Charles King, an expert on the region, said South Ossetia long served as a “gigantic magnet for contraband” passing between Russia and Georgia, economically dependent on informal taxes levied on shipments.

“If someone is trying to send physical aid to South Ossetia, it’s very likely that it’s going to go missing,” said Mr. King, author of “The Ghost of Freedom: A History of the Caucasus.”

Whatever the reasons, progress has been slow. A report released in December by Russia’s federal auditing agency found that of about $55 million in priority aid pledged by Russia, only about $15 million had been delivered and only $1.4 million spent. It also found that of 111 structures scheduled for renovation by the end of 2008, 8 had been completed and 38 had not yet been touched.

The same month, a former South Ossetian defense minister who is a political rival of Mr. Kokoity’s, Anatoly Barankevich, told the Russian daily newspaper Kommersant that local officials had diverted 3,200 tons of cement and nearly 200,000 square feet of glass intended to repair citizens’ homes before winter. Mr. Kokoity denied the report, telling the newspaper that “certain pro-Georgian forces are trying to discredit South Ossetia in the eyes of Russia and Russians.”

The delays have become a headache for Mr. Kokoity, who was met with roars of adulation last summer when Moscow formally recognized his government. Meeting with foreign journalists in Tskhinvali, he said the process had been slowed by dishonest subcontractors chosen after the war by the Russian Ministry of Regional Development. Authorities say that they have spent only $42 million of the roughly $280 million in pledged Russian money and that the pace will speed up now that a more effective system of financial controls is in place.
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Re: RUSSIAN SAYS USA WILL FALL APART!!!
« Reply #48 on: March 08, 2009, 03:24:10 PM »
the government that you hate has kept your ass safe and given you the freedom to hate it...try hating the government in russia or china and being open about it...watch what happens next... ::)

 ;D  Thank you!  I was really feeling sorry for HH6.  I thought he was the BIGGEST dumbass on this forum.  But you've come along and COMPLETELY shattered that perception!  You made my day dumbshit!  Oh and I'm going to assume you are either enlisted or ex military because most people who wield that tired old cliche of an argument usually are. 

First off before I rip you a new intellectual asshole let me start off with this quote from James Madison?  Remember him? 

A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.

You don't protect my freedoms.  THE US CONSTITUTION and BILL OF RIGHTS PROTECTS MY FREEDOM!  Think about that statement for a second.  You've got rocks for brain so it might take a while.  Do you know what the Constitution says?  The Bill of Rights?  You could fucking disappear and my Right to Free Speech would still be here.  It was granted to my by that goddman piece of paper drawn up by the TRUE patriots we call the "Founding Fathers". 

ARGUMENT 1
Every competent military analyst would tell us that the threat of a foreign invasion and conquest of America is nonexistent. No nation has the military capability of invading and conquering the United States. Not China, not Russia, not Iran, not North Korea, not Syria. Not anyone. To invade the United States with sufficient forces to conquer and “pacify” the entire nation would take millions of foreign troops and tens of thousands of ships and planes to transport them across the Atlantic or Pacific ocean. No foreign nation has such resources or military capabilities and no nation will have them for the foreseeable future. After all, think about it: the U.S. army, the most powerful military force in all of history, has not been able to fully conquer such a small country as Iraq because of the level of domestic resistance to a foreign invasion. Imagine the level of military forces that would be needed to conquer and “pacify” a country as large and well-armed as the United States.
I repeat: No foreign nation has the military capability to invade the United States, conquer our country, subjugate our people, and take away our freedoms. Therefore, the troops are not needed to protect our freedoms from this nonexistent threat.


ARGUMENT 2
Despite widespread fears to the contrary, there is no possibility that terrorists will conquer the United States, take over the government, and take away our freedoms. At most, they are able to kill thousands of people, with, say, suicide bombs but they lack the military forces to subjugate the entire nation or any part of it.  When was the last time an Arab was blowing up citizens in US malls?  Huh?  I guess it's because the CIA and NSA is keeping us safe?  What happened to those terror alerts?

Now the icing on the cake!
What would happen if a foreign nation ever began constructing thousands of ships and planes and mobilizing millions of people to invade the United States? The answer to that threat was also provided by our Founding Fathers: the foreign nation in question would be met by a nation of free well-armed citizens who would be prepared and willing to rally quickly to oppose any invasion and conquest of our nation. Invading a United States filled with well-trained, free men and women would be much like invading Switzerland – like swallowing a porcupine. Don’t forget that the men and women who currently serve in the U.S. armed services wouldn’t disappear; instead they would join the rest of us as citizen-soldiers, people whose fighting skills could be depended on in the unlikely event our nation were ever threatened by invasion by a foreign power.

You might want to ice that big guy! 

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« Reply #49 on: March 08, 2009, 03:26:55 PM »
;D  Thank you!  I was really feeling sorry for HH6.  I thought he was the BIGGEST dumbass on this forum.  But you've come along and COMPLETELY shattered that perception!  You made my day dumbshit!  Oh and I'm going to assume you are either enlisted or ex military because most people who wield that tired old cliche of an argument usually are. 

First off before I rip you a new intellectual asshole let me start off with this quote from James Madison?  Remember him? 

A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defense against foreign danger have been always the instruments of tyranny at home. Among the Romans it was a standing maxim to excite a war, whenever a revolt was apprehended. Throughout all Europe, the armies kept up under the pretext of defending, have enslaved the people.

You don't protect my freedoms.  THE US CONSTITUTION and BILL OF RIGHTS PROTECTS MY FREEDOM!  Think about that statement for a second.  You've got rocks for brain so it might take a while.  Do you know what the Constitution says?  The Bill of Rights?  You could fucking disappear and my Right to Free Speech would still be here.  It was granted to my by that goddman piece of paper drawn up by the TRUE patriots we call the "Founding Fathers". 

ARGUMENT 1
Every competent military analyst would tell us that the threat of a foreign invasion and conquest of America is nonexistent. No nation has the military capability of invading and conquering the United States. Not China, not Russia, not Iran, not North Korea, not Syria. Not anyone. To invade the United States with sufficient forces to conquer and “pacify” the entire nation would take millions of foreign troops and tens of thousands of ships and planes to transport them across the Atlantic or Pacific ocean. No foreign nation has such resources or military capabilities and no nation will have them for the foreseeable future. After all, think about it: the U.S. army, the most powerful military force in all of history, has not been able to fully conquer such a small country as Iraq because of the level of domestic resistance to a foreign invasion. Imagine the level of military forces that would be needed to conquer and “pacify” a country as large and well-armed as the United States.
I repeat: No foreign nation has the military capability to invade the United States, conquer our country, subjugate our people, and take away our freedoms. Therefore, the troops are not needed to protect our freedoms from this nonexistent threat.


ARGUMENT 2
Despite widespread fears to the contrary, there is no possibility that terrorists will conquer the United States, take over the government, and take away our freedoms. At most, they are able to kill thousands of people, with, say, suicide bombs but they lack the military forces to subjugate the entire nation or any part of it.  When was the last time an Arab was blowing up citizens in US malls?  Huh?  I guess it's because the CIA and NSA is keeping us safe?  What happened to those terror alerts?

Now the icing on the cake!
What would happen if a foreign nation ever began constructing thousands of ships and planes and mobilizing millions of people to invade the United States? The answer to that threat was also provided by our Founding Fathers: the foreign nation in question would be met by a nation of free well-armed citizens who would be prepared and willing to rally quickly to oppose any invasion and conquest of our nation. Invading a United States filled with well-trained, free men and women would be much like invading Switzerland – like swallowing a porcupine. Don’t forget that the men and women who currently serve in the U.S. armed services wouldn’t disappear; instead they would join the rest of us as citizen-soldiers, people whose fighting skills could be depended on in the unlikely event our nation were ever threatened by invasion by a foreign power.

You might want to want ice that big guy! 


It's just a fucking piece of paper.  ;D
I hate the State.