Do you guys believe in Karma?

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Prove the nonsense you wrote earlier. Let me just see a shrapnel of proof. Otherwise it is just superstition.

 Oh God!  If you don't mind.whats your religion?
 

 BTW: do you really understand the conception of karma or religion?
 
 
 

[kh300]

absolutely believe in it.. i could tell you guys hundreds of storys where karma comes back to you... when i originally applied to be a police officer i was denied.. after 4 years of college, and 2 years playing minor league baseball i did some things i ended up regretting...

i used to go to the gym every morning, when it was never crowded.. i would see the same people every day. after a year one guy came up to talk to me. he asked what i did for a living.. i said i was living off my baseball money and i got rejected by the nypd.. turns out he was the chief. he said he liked the way i acted in the gym, and boom i was in the academy 2 weeks later..

i always rememberd when i was in high school and a yankees scout talked to me. he said ''always remember you never know who watching you''... that always stuck with me.

[Bobby]

[lovemonkey]

Oh God!  If you don't mind.whats your religion?
 

 BTW: do you really understand the conception of karma or religion?
 
 
 

No religion or superstition for me. OK, lets assume I haven't got a clue what karma is about. You still make some bold claims in this post.

Your Karma Will Run Over Your Dogma: How Karma Works

Sooner or Later, You're Dancin' With the Reaper

We are Karma Chameleons. While on Earth, you are living in the worlds of reincarnation and karma. Believe it or not, karma begins & ends with love.

Karma begins to propel you as Soul on a personal journey through the universe. Karma ends when you have perfected yourself in your ability to love.

So What is Karma? As Soul you are eternal. You have past, present, and future lives. To grow in love, joy, and awareness, you reincarnate into a series of physical bodies to experience different existences. You have been or will be both sexes and all races, religions, and ethnic types throughout many lifetimes.

Karma Defined: Karma means that "as you sow, so also shall you reap" in this and other lifetimes until you understand the complete consequences of all your actions. Karma is the principle of cause and effect, action and reaction, total cosmic justice and personal responsibility.

The 4 Different "Flavors" of Karma: There are 4 different types of karma that you are always working on:

Sanchita Karma: the accumulated result of all your actions from all your past lifetimes. This is your total cosmic debt. Every moment of every day either you are adding to it or you are reducing this cosmic debt.
 
Prarabdha Karma: the portion of your "sanchita" karma being worked on in the present life. If you work down your agreed upon debt in this lifetime, then more past debts surface to be worked on.

 
Agami Karma: the portion of actions in the present life that add to your "sanchita" karma. If you fail to work off your debt, then more debts are added to "sanchita" karma and are sent to future lives.


Kriyamana Karma: daily, instant karma created in this life that is worked off immediately. These are debts that are created and worked off - ie. you do wrong, you get caught and you spend time in jail


"Resistance is Futile": As Soul, you experience a constant cycle of births and deaths into a series of bodies until you have learned all the spiritual lessons that the totality of all experiences have to teach you. Until you have learned, you will find that "resistance" to the rules of karma is "futile".

Whoever wrote that had the nerve to even describe in detail what karma is and how it works, not just the rough concept of it. As said, very bold claims. It demands proof if you want to push it on others.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

No religion or superstition for me. OK, lets assume I haven't got a clue what karma is about. You still make some bold claims in this post.
Whoever wrote that had the nerve to even describe in detail what karma is and how it works, not just the rough concept of it. As said, very bold claims. It demands proof if you want to push it on others.

 My point was the concept of it.if you understood that's good.  if you don't...  well! thats not my problem.
 So. you know that i don't need to prove you anything.

 

[lovemonkey]

My point was the concept of it.if you understood that good.  if you don't...  well! thats not my problem.
 So. you know that i don't need to prove you anything.

 

Ok, but really, do you believe in the things you copied and pasted earlier?

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

OK, but really, do you believe in the things you copied and pasted earlier?

 Who told you that i copied and pasted?
 I believe in the conception of it.

 

[lovemonkey]

Who told you that i copied and pasted?
 I believe in the conception of it.

 

I suppose "conception" means concept.

Then why bother posting that nonsense? That was NOT a concept, it was explicit details and bold claims.

[Parker]

And it's outright impossible that could just be the result of basic human interaction. 

No there has to be some sort of "universal order" or "higher energy" making sure you feel better when you've met a nice person. 10 seconds later that nice person could very well be hit by a car and die. But hey, karma works in mysterious ways!

Well, hoepfully I don't get hit by a car and die tonight. Because what you just said in the sentence bfore, is what people have said about me. And i never got what people are saying. I have always treated people like I wanted to be treated. Not do unto others, before they do unto you. And yes, the vibe you give off to others does rub off...For instance have you ever delt with some who was jack ass, and then you match their demeanor? Same thing. The vibe they gave off and the way they acted or talked, you matched it.

[lovemonkey]

Well, hoepfully I don't get hit by a car and die tonight. Because what you just said in the sentence bfore, is what people have said about me. And i never got what people are saying. I have always treated people like I wanted to be treated. Not do unto others, before they do unto you. And yes, the vibe you give off to others does rub off...For instance have you ever delt with some who was jack ass, and then you match their demeanor? Same thing. The vibe they gave off and the way they acted or talked, you matched it.

Sure all that you are saying makes perfect sense. Be a good person and you are very likely to benefit from it and others as well. Your mood is contagious and if you're pissed off other people around you are less likely to be happy etc. As said, this is just basic human interaction, it has nothing to do with "karma" or any other bullshit.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

I suppose "conception" means concept.

Then why bother posting that nonsense? That was NOT a concept, it was explicit details and bold claims.

 You' re saying that my post was a nonsense. karma or any religion= nonsense.
 Can you prove it?

 

[lovemonkey]

You' re saying that my post was a nonsense. karma or any religion= nonsense.
 Can you prove it?

 

First of all, that is a copout. Second I'll find the religious or superstitious people inability to prove their claims enough proof for me that what they believe is false. And believe me, they really REALLY try.

You know, most of what physicists discover or think of usually sound even more absurd (quantum theory anyone?) than the idea of a god or karma but they can still give evidence for their claims! That's because they actually care about the truth and not old folklore's and myths. The truth about the "universal order" or whatever you want to call is really absurd and humans have a hard time dealing with it. That's why they come up with all sorts of gods or lame simplified theories of why things work the way they do to cover that gap of knowledge.

I'd rather listen to Stephen Hawking's annoying robot voice all day than some goofy new-age clown.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

First of all, that is a copout. Second I'll find the religious or superstitious people inability to prove their claims enough proof for me that what they believe is false. And believe me, they really REALLY try.

You know, most of what physicists discover or think of usually sound even more absurd (quantum theory anyone?) than the idea of a god or karma but they can still give evidence for their claims! That's because they actually care about the truth and not old folklore's and myths. The truth about the "universal order" or whatever you want to call is really absurd and humans have a hard time dealing with it. That's why they come up with all sorts of gods or lame simplified theories of why things work the way they do to cover that gap of knowledge.

I'd rather listen to Stephen Hawking's annoying robot voice all day than some goofy new-age clown.

 I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..
 and i agree that religious people are way too.
 But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove  that KARMA its real or not?
 I'm humble enough to  believe in the concept.

 Ps: i'm sorry for my english. i know i suck.

 

[Eisenherz]

I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..
 and i agree that religious people are way too.
 But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove  that KARMA its real or not?
 I'm humble enough to  believe in the concept.

 Ps: i'm sorry for my english. i know i suck.

 

You explained it pretty well, I wish I could speak Portuguese, awsome language.

[lovemonkey]

I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..
 and i agree that religious people are way too.
 But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove  that KARMA its real or not?
 I'm humble enough to  believe in the concept.

 Ps: i'm sorry for my english. i know i suck.

 

I believe in facts and science. I was talking about the concept, you know being a good person and bla bla..

Sure man, as I've said the attitude you have against others is very likely to shape your future. Be an asshole and you get treated as such etc. It's simple human behavior that is also very common in nature where animals depend on each other in flocks. Why do you need to invoke any type of "higher energy" or karma to explain it?

But... Can you prove that GOD exist or not? can you prove  that KARMA its real or not?

Just because you can't disprove something does not make it true. A classic argument in this type of debates is the "flying spaghetti monster" or the "flying teapot". If I told you that a magical teapot is circling around Jupiter does it become true just because you can't disprove it?

I'm humble enough to  believe in the concept.

You are really not doing yourself a favor by thinking this way. Always demand evidence and logical reasoning for everything you believe in, or at least try to. If your friend claimed to have gotten a blowjob by Pamela Anderson yesterday, wouldn't you demand proof before believing it as it seems very unlikely? Apply the same reasoning to everything else and you'll be better off.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

Sure man, as I've said the attitude you have against others is very likely to shape your future. Be an asshole and you get treated as such etc. It's simple human behavior that is also very common in nature where animals depend on each other in flocks. Why do you need to invoke any type of "higher energy" or karma to explain it?

Just because you can't disprove something does not make it true. A classic argument in this type of debates is the "flying spaghetti monster" or the "flying teapot". If I told you that a magical teapot is circling around Jupiter does it become true just because you can't disprove it?
You are really not doing yourself a favor by thinking this way. Always demand evidence and logical reasoning for everything you believe in, or at least try to. If your friend claimed to have gotten a blowjob by Pamela Anderson yesterday, wouldn't you demand proof before believing it as it seems very unlikely? Apply the same reasoning to everything else and you'll be better off.

 I'm sorry, but when i said that " I'm humble enough to believe in the concept"
  What i meant was. that I'm humble enough to believe in the idea of, you been a good person, and doing good things.
  And i will Not believe in things. just because someone told me. or was written somewhere.
 Yes i would like to see some evidence.
  Thanks for your pacience.
 
 
 

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

The orginal mean of Karma is simply "Causality and Effect".
If you say some beautiful things to another people,you feel good and you feel yourself living in the positive world.
And this feeling makes you positive(without notice:under conciousness) and you do good thing to you without notice.
Nothing special..

I gave away 50k to charity,,,,but i did not win the powerball which was 260 million dollasss,,

[JOCKTHEGLIDE]

You' re saying that my post was a nonsense. karma or any religion= nonsense.
 Can you prove it?

 

can you prove your great X20 father lived,,,,,

[Camel Jockey]

I don't believe in it, but I do like the underlying idea behind it. You should treat others with respect to the point where it doesn't become burdensome to you. Merely being an asshole due to frustration shows low value, and is something only people of low class or generally people of the genetic underclass only do. Like the worthless scum that inhabit ghettos having nothing good to say, or show any sort of respect towards their fellow man.

Treat others with respect naturally without trying and you'll see how the response is from others; it's something wonderful and allows you to build good relationships and network.

That I think is behind the old hindu concept. It's a beautiful thing really considering it's been around for so long.

[lovemonkey]

I don't believe in it, but I do like the underlying idea behind it. You should treat others with respect to the point where it doesn't become burdensome to you. Merely being an asshole due to frustration shows low value, and is something only people of low class or generally people of the genetic underclass only do. Like the worthless scum that inhabit ghettos having nothing good to say, or show any sort of respect towards their fellow man.

Treat others with respect naturally without trying and you'll see how the response is from others; it's something wonderful and allows you to build good relationships and network.

That I think is behind the old hindu concept. It's a beautiful thing really considering it's been around for so long.

See, it doesn't have to be any more complicated than this. Why people insist on invoking supernatural powers in to this simple truth is beyond me.

[tbombz]

It's called growing up. And the idea of karma is a repulsive to me, since it is selfishness defined. You do better because you fear repercussion later on, not because you genuinely want to help people. Kinda like religious people claiming there would be no morals without a god.

hahahahaha

you like philosophy

you sound kinda like you would agree with immanuel kant on ethics

[lovemonkey]

hahahahaha

you like philosophy

you sound kinda like you would agree with immanuel kant on ethics

What's the laughing matter here? Immanuel Kant seems like a cool cat and I would have no trouble being associated with his way of thinking.

Maybe I should add that I had no fuckin clue who he was until I googled. I need university really bad. 

[tbombz]

What's the laughing matter here? Immanuel Kant seems like a cool cat and I would have no trouble being associated with his way of thinking.

Maybe I should add that I had no fuckin clue who he was until I googled. I need university really bad. 

  its just funny to me cuz im studying that at the moment

Kant is okay. I both agree and disagree with him.  im a bit of a hedonist.

[GRACIE JIU-JITSU]

See, it doesn't have to be any more complicated than this. Why people insist on invoking supernatural powers in to this simple truth is beyond me.

 I'm sorry but.
 to have concept of something means= to have a idea of something.
 right?
 So when i say that i like the concept behind Karma.
 is like saying " the underlying idea behind it"  wright or wrong?
 If I'm wrong please educate me.
 If I'm right why you giving me a hard time?
 thanks.
 
 I don't believe in it, but I do like the underlying idea behind it. You should treat others with respect to the point where it doesn't become burdensome to you. Merely being an asshole due to frustration shows low value, and is something only people of low class or generally people of the genetic underclass only do. Like the worthless scum that inhabit ghettos having nothing good to say, or show any sort of respect towards their fellow man.

Treat others with respect naturally without trying and you'll see how the response is from others; it's something wonderful and allows you to build good relationships and network.

That I think is behind the old hindu concept. It's a beautiful thing really considering it's been around for so long.
 

[lovemonkey]

I'm sorry but.
 to have concept of something means= to have a idea of something.
 right?
 So when i say that i like the concept behind Karma.
 is like saying " the underlying idea behind it"  wright or wrong?
 If I'm wrong please educate me.
 If I'm right why you giving me a hard time?
 thanks.

I understand what you are trying to say but at the same time I do NOT understand why you bother trying to explain it with some supernatural karma. What has being good and nice anything to do with this nonsense for example?

Sanchita Karma: the accumulated result of all your actions from all your past lifetimes. This is your total cosmic debt. Every moment of every day either you are adding to it or you are reducing this cosmic debt.

I just don't understand why you made it so complicated for yourself.