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« on: March 07, 2009, 12:22:30 AM »

March 7, 2009

Miracles Take Time
By BOB HERBERT

Barack Obama has only been president for six weeks, but there is a surprising amount of ire, anger, even outrage that he hasn’t yet solved the problems of the U.S. economy, that he hasn’t saved us from the increasingly tragic devastation wrought by the clownish ideas of right-wing conservatives and the many long years of radical Republican misrule.

This intense, impatient, often self-righteous, frequently wrongheaded and at times willfully destructive criticism has come in waves, and not just from the right. Mr. Obama is as legitimate a target for criticism as any president. But there is a weird hysterical quality to some of the recent attacks that suggests an underlying fear or barely suppressed rage. It’s a quality that seems not just unhelpful but unhealthy.

Mr. Obama is being hammered — depending on the point of view of the critics — for the continuing collapse of the stock market, for not moving fast enough to revive the suicidal financial industry, for trying to stem the flood tide of home foreclosures, for trying to bring health insurance coverage to some of the millions of Americans who don’t have any, for running up huge budget deficits as he tries to fend off the worst economic emergency since World War II and for not taking time out from all of the above to deal with — get this — earmarks.

Earmarks.

More than 4.4 million jobs have been lost since this monster recession officially got under way in December 2007, and we’ve got people wigging out over earmarks. Folks, get a grip. Some earmarks are good, some are not, but collectively they account for a tiny, tiny portion of the national budget — less than 1 percent.

Freaking out over earmarks is like watching a neighborhood that is being consumed by flames and complaining that there is crabgrass on some of the lawns.


In the midst of the craziness, conservatives are busy trying to blame this epic economic catastrophe — a conflagration of their own making — on the new president. Forget Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush and George Herbert Hoover Bush and the Heritage Foundation and the Club for Growth and Phil Gramm and Newt Gingrich and all the rest. The right-wingers would have you believe this is Obama’s downturn.

The bear market would no doubt have magically turned around by now, and those failing geniuses at the helm of our flat-lined megacorporations would no doubt be busy manufacturing new profits and putting people back to work — if only Mr. Obama had solved the banking crisis, had lowered taxes on the rich, had refused to consider running up those giant deficits (a difficult thing to do at the same time that you are saving banks and lowering taxes), and had abandoned any inclination that he might have had to reform health care and make it a little easier for ordinary American kids to get a better education.

As the columnist Charles Krauthammer was kind enough to inform us: “The markets’ recent precipitous decline is a reaction not just to the absence of any plausible bank rescue plan, but also to the suspicion that Obama sees the continuing financial crisis as usefully creating the psychological conditions — the sense of crisis bordering on fear-itself panic — for enacting his ‘big-bang’ agenda to federalize and/or socialize health care, education and energy, the commanding heights of post-industrial society.”

That’s a more genteel version of the sentiment expressed a couple of weeks ago by the perpetually hysterical Alan Keyes, a Republican who was beaten by Mr. Obama in the Illinois Senate race in 2004. “Obama is a radical communist,” said Mr. Keyes, “and I think it is becoming clear. That is what I told people in Illinois, and now everybody realizes it’s true.”

I don’t know whether President Obama’s ultimate rescue plan for the financial industry will work. He is a thoughtful man running a thoughtful administration and the plan, a staggeringly complex and difficult work in progress, hasn’t been revealed yet.

What I know is that the renegade clowns who ruined this economy, the Republican right in alliance with big business and a fair number of feckless Democrats — all working in opposition to the interests of working families — have no credible basis for waging war against serious efforts to get us out of their mess.


Maybe the markets are down because demand has dried up, because many of the nation’s biggest firms have imploded and because Americans are losing their jobs and their homes by the millions. Maybe a dose of reality is in order, as opposed to the childish desire for yet another stock market bubble.

Maybe the nuns in grammar school were right when they counseled that patience is a virtue. The man has been president for six weeks.
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« Reply #1 on: March 07, 2009, 12:57:53 AM »

This belongs on Obamaforums. It's that good.
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« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2009, 01:55:42 AM »

This belongs on Obamaforums. It's that good.
And you KNOW this, man.  Wink There should be a forum that exists at a higher level than what the morons, dipshits, and dittoheads can reach. I place where the true intellectual giants reside.

In other words, ALL the stuff I post.  Cool
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« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 02:08:53 AM »

March 7, 2009

Miracles Take Time
By BOB HERBERT

Barack Obama has only been president for six weeks, but there is a surprising amount of ire, anger, even outrage that he hasn’t yet solved the problems of the U.S. economy, that he hasn’t saved us from the increasingly tragic devastation wrought by the clownish ideas of right-wing conservatives and the many long years of radical Republican misrule.

This intense, impatient, often self-righteous, frequently wrongheaded and at times willfully destructive criticism has come in waves, and not just from the right. Mr. Obama is as legitimate a target for criticism as any president. But there is a weird hysterical quality to some of the recent attacks that suggests an underlying fear or barely suppressed rage. It’s a quality that seems not just unhelpful but unhealthy.

Mr. Obama is being hammered — depending on the point of view of the critics — for the continuing collapse of the stock market, for not moving fast enough to revive the suicidal financial industry, for trying to stem the flood tide of home foreclosures, for trying to bring health insurance coverage to some of the millions of Americans who don’t have any, for running up huge budget deficits as he tries to fend off the worst economic emergency since World War II and for not taking time out from all of the above to deal with — get this — earmarks.

Earmarks.

More than 4.4 million jobs have been lost since this monster recession officially got under way in December 2007, and we’ve got people wigging out over earmarks. Folks, get a grip. Some earmarks are good, some are not, but collectively they account for a tiny, tiny portion of the national budget — less than 1 percent.

Freaking out over earmarks is like watching a neighborhood that is being consumed by flames and complaining that there is crabgrass on some of the lawns.


In the midst of the craziness, conservatives are busy trying to blame this epic economic catastrophe — a conflagration of their own making — on the new president. Forget Ronald Reagan and George Herbert Walker Bush and George Herbert Hoover Bush and the Heritage Foundation and the Club for Growth and Phil Gramm and Newt Gingrich and all the rest. The right-wingers would have you believe this is Obama’s downturn.

The bear market would no doubt have magically turned around by now, and those failing geniuses at the helm of our flat-lined megacorporations would no doubt be busy manufacturing new profits and putting people back to work — if only Mr. Obama had solved the banking crisis, had lowered taxes on the rich, had refused to consider running up those giant deficits (a difficult thing to do at the same time that you are saving banks and lowering taxes), and had abandoned any inclination that he might have had to reform health care and make it a little easier for ordinary American kids to get a better education.

As the columnist Charles Krauthammer was kind enough to inform us: “The markets’ recent precipitous decline is a reaction not just to the absence of any plausible bank rescue plan, but also to the suspicion that Obama sees the continuing financial crisis as usefully creating the psychological conditions — the sense of crisis bordering on fear-itself panic — for enacting his ‘big-bang’ agenda to federalize and/or socialize health care, education and energy, the commanding heights of post-industrial society.”

That’s a more genteel version of the sentiment expressed a couple of weeks ago by the perpetually hysterical Alan Keyes, a Republican who was beaten by Mr. Obama in the Illinois Senate race in 2004. “Obama is a radical communist,” said Mr. Keyes, “and I think it is becoming clear. That is what I told people in Illinois, and now everybody realizes it’s true.”

I don’t know whether President Obama’s ultimate rescue plan for the financial industry will work. He is a thoughtful man running a thoughtful administration and the plan, a staggeringly complex and difficult work in progress, hasn’t been revealed yet.

What I know is that the renegade clowns who ruined this economy, the Republican right in alliance with big business and a fair number of feckless Democrats — all working in opposition to the interests of working families — have no credible basis for waging war against serious efforts to get us out of their mess.


Maybe the markets are down because demand has dried up, because many of the nation’s biggest firms have imploded and because Americans are losing their jobs and their homes by the millions. Maybe a dose of reality is in order, as opposed to the childish desire for yet another stock market bubble.

Maybe the nuns in grammar school were right when they counseled that patience is a virtue. The man has been president for six weeks.

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Benny, I'm so glad you posted that. I was thinking the exact same thing myself.
My gosh people, give the man a chance. He didn't create this mess, ...but he appears to be far more level headed and in far better a position to get us out of it, but he's not capable of snapping his fingers and making it happen overnight. He's good, ...but he's not that good.  Wink
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« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2009, 03:05:10 AM »

When u talk the markets into a panic and push through a socialist agenda at breakneck speed, we have a right to worry. Obama is a lying douchebag.
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« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2009, 03:24:13 AM »

When u talk the markets into a panic and push through a socialist agenda at breakneck speed, we have a right to worry. Obama is a lying douchebag.
he is most honest,,,man right now in countriy you need rleax a bit
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2009, 03:29:48 AM »

Yeah.....a thrill shoots up my leg everytime I see him.
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2009, 05:58:24 AM »

Although not an Obama fan, as an American, I am apalled at how much is asked of one president while the one who ROYALLY FUCKED our country for good received mild criticism. Let's face it, Bush's decisions, correction: Cheney's decisions, accelerated and even aggravated every possible crisis, be it economical, social... You name it!

So... why is it that we had NO BALLS to put Bush in the toughseat but all of a sudden ask Obama to reconstruct in three months what Bush took 8 years to destroy?

We best smarten up, ALL OF US, and fast too, because the empire is coming to an end. Look at all the other powers beginning to line up.
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2010, 05:49:27 AM »

Bump for a Miracle. 
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2010, 06:55:15 AM »

Bump for a Miracle. 

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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2010, 11:56:42 AM »

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Obama is going to need a miracle for re-election 
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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2010, 12:23:32 PM »

Obama is going to need a miracle for re-election 

No, all he needs is a tea bagger like Palin to head the GOP ticket.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2010, 12:27:09 PM »

No, all he needs is a tea bagger like Palin to head the GOP ticket.  Smiley

Richard Ramirez or Madoff would get elected over Obama in 2012. 
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 12:33:59 PM »

Richard Ramirez or Madoff would get elected over Obama in 2012. 

Keep talking that idiocy and 2012 will be a piece of cake. Meanwhile Obama is the President. Bite them apples.  Grin
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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2010, 12:35:00 PM »

Keep talking that idiocy and 2012 will be a piece of cake. Meanwhile Obama is the President. Bite them apples.  Grin

Yeah, and he is the best gift to the right in my lifetime. 



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« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2010, 12:36:51 PM »

Keep talking that idiocy and 2012 will be a piece of cake. Meanwhile Obama is the President. Bite them apples.  Grin

This is the kinda shit that really gets on my nerves, yeah Obama is the POTUS and is running the country into the ground, but as long as you can get a shot in on the right its all OK.  And people wonder why I think liberals are useless.
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« Reply #16 on: September 01, 2010, 12:44:33 PM »

Yeah, and he is the best gift to the right in my lifetime. 



A lot more and more people are saying this. His screwups are doing more to persuade moderates than even some of the best conservative commentators could have done, such as Thomas Sowell.
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« Reply #17 on: September 07, 2010, 09:31:29 AM »

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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2010, 08:02:36 AM »

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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2010, 06:32:54 AM »

Bump.  how much longer do we need to wait for the miracle to happen Benny? 
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2010, 02:27:24 PM »

Benny - when is the miracle coming? 



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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2010, 02:50:51 PM »

Benny - when is the miracle coming? 


I don't know when the miracle is coming, ...but the day you stop screaming what a POS Obama is,
...we'll all know it has arrived.

I can't believe how ungrateful you are. Here Obama is giving you the greatest wealth creation opportunity that you will ever see in your lifetime, ...and rather than prepare for it and embrace it, instead you're screaming bloody murder.  Roll Eyes This is why I didn't get you a birthday present... you're so ungrateful.  Sad
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2010, 04:21:28 PM »

I don't know when the miracle is coming, ...but the day you stop screaming what a POS Obama is,
...we'll all know it has arrived.

I can't believe how ungrateful you are. Here Obama is giving you the greatest wealth creation opportunity that you will ever see in your lifetime, ...and rather than prepare for it and embrace it, instead you're screaming bloody murder.  Roll Eyes This is why I didn't get you a birthday present... you're so ungrateful.  Sad
so now its about individuals and not the country and community as a whole?
 
Facts are facts jag the economy is in the shitter and obama has directly and intentionally put his agenda before the welfare of the citizens of the US...that makes hime a POS

just b/c the situation, NOT OBAMA has created opportunities for certain individuals doesnt mean anything...
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2010, 06:32:47 AM »

A lot more and more people are saying this. His screwups are doing more to persuade moderates than even some of the best conservative commentators could have done, such as Thomas Sowell.

Yup - he had the opportunity of a generation and screwed it up by going hard left and letting his own radical agenda come before the immediate needs of the nation. 
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2010, 01:12:08 AM »

so now its about individuals and not the country and community as a whole?
 
Facts are facts jag the economy is in the shitter and obama has directly and intentionally put his agenda before the welfare of the citizens of the US...that makes hime a POS

just b/c the situation, NOT OBAMA has created opportunities for certain individuals doesnt mean anything...

Yup - he had the opportunity of a generation and screwed it up by going hard left and letting his own radical agenda come before the immediate needs of the nation.  

LOL! Now the both of you are sounding more like communists everyday!  Grin

I can't save the entire world economy as a whole, ...neither can Obama, Bernanke, or even Ron Paul.
What I can do however is save my personal economy, and if Fed policy affords me the opportunity to do so, I will.

333386, as a student of judo, I'm surprised you so easily dismiss one of it's greatest principles.

btw Tony, Obama has created opportunity NOT just for certain individuals, ...but for EVERYBODY!
You just need to shut your mouth and open your eyes in order to see it.

You've been given two eyes and only one mouth for a reason. CHANGE is occurring right before your eyes.
Just because it hasn't come in the form you envisioned or anticipated, isn't sufficient reason for you not to embrace it.

Time and Tide waits for no man. Catch the wave, ...or be devoured by it.
You cannot control the upcoming storm, so rather than scream about it, learn how to dance in the rain!
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