Metals in UG lab gear

[Big Rock.]

  Are gains what's in question here ? 

 The effects of metal contamination would not be immediately evident.
 Even if the gear was dosed correctly and gains were good, long term use would cause problems later, cancer ect.

  I think Lewellens book is gonna be an eye opener for some...

[4thAD]

Wouldn't the metals come out when filtering with a .22 millapore if you haven't exceeded each metal's melting point?  Or are the trace amounts too small?  Just curious.

I dont believe that the metals can be filtered out. Trace amount contamination, from shit Chinese powders.

[4thAD]

  Are gains what's in question here ? 

 The effects of metal contamination would not be immediately evident.
 Even if the gear was dosed correctly and gains were good, long term use would cause problems later, cancer ect.

  I think Lewellens book is gonna be an eye opener for some...

Oh yes it will!

[1-503rd_IN]

what is this book you guys are talking about?

[MuscleMcMannus]

what is this book you guys are talking about?

It's a book being put out by William Llwellyn over at www.bodyofscience.com  It's going to have major testing done on tons of UG brands and hopefully IP china products.  But right now it's all hype as Bill won't respond to a couple of threads as to when the book is going to come out.  It will probably come out a year later than when expected. 

[Big Rock.]

  He sounds like he's working on it. They got 9th add. out more or less on time. Ronny says they'll be taking pre-orders soon.

[Captain Equipoise]

His books are a good table side reference but all the info (esp. about underground labs) is outdated as soon as the book comes out, he would be better off releasing it as a paid email or online newsletter with current updates, for a book to get to press and stores is about 3-4 months, by that time the info is outdated.

[MuscleMcMannus]

His books are a good table side reference but all the info (esp. about underground labs) is outdated as soon as the book comes out, he would be better off releasing it as a paid email or online newsletter with current updates, for a book to get to press and stores is about 3-4 months, by that time the info is outdated.

Yes this is a very good point and I've wondered that myself. 

[dr_para24]

Personally I wouldn't trust any UG gear regardless of how big they are.  NONE of those producers test their powders.  It doesn't matter how big or how clean their production facility is.  If they aren't testing the powders for heavy metals it doesn't matter.  Companies like Schering etc. have quality control measures in place. 

how about when you are getting a fake scheering products? Do you know that everything can be make to look like the same as the orginal.

[4thAD]

how about when you are getting a fake scheering products? Do you know that everything can be make to look like the same as the orginal.

Yes you are correct Doc! I have heard from a really good bro in Thailand that fakes are showing up in the Pharmacies.