Author Topic: Kai vs. Vic (Read 6434 times)

Benny B · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:20:54 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on March 07, 2009, 11:45:04 AM

kai looks strange in the front double bi

yes
Kai always looks very awkward in that pose. Never his best, in my opinion.

I'd have Branch fifth, with Toney and Silvio third and fourth. Vic and Kai=a matter of personal preference, and I don't have one.

Wiggs · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:21:53 PM »

Quote from: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:14:31 PM

based on those shots i've got Branch first, Kai second and Vic third.

LOL...Good one, no really, what are your real picks?

QuakerOats · « **Reply #27 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:23:00 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 12:21:53 PM

LOL...Good one, no really, what are your real picks?

exactly what i said, sounds like someone is caught up believing the "black bodybuilders are always better" myth.

Benny B · « **Reply #28 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:23:59 PM »

Quote from: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:23:00 PM

exactly what i said, sounds like someone is caught up believing the "black bodybuilders are always better" myth.

You sound like a self loathing, obese Paki. What's your point?

pumpster · « **Reply #29 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:26:09 PM »

Vic's upper bod looks great-aesthetic, good muscle shape and flow, size, good conditioning but could be slightly leaner, as usual. Legs-thighs a little smaller but cut, calves smallish as usual. Still better than the rest.

Kai's slightly leaner but like most of these other guys has average/poor structure including mediocre V and blocky quads.

Most of these guys aren't naturally suited to be BBs, they look like powerlifters and don't have much flow or tapers, they're blocky with no flow.

Virtually every single guy has miniscule calves also.

Wiggs · « **Reply #30 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:29:10 PM »

Quote from: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:23:00 PM

exactly what i said, sounds like someone is caught up believing the "black bodybuilders are always better" myth.

LOL. Wow, where did that come from? No one said anything about race.
Sounds like like someone is pulling for the great white hope with comments like that.

Arkadius · « **Reply #31 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Wiggs on March 07, 2009, 11:50:28 AM

You think so? If Kai stays within the time limits of his posing routine and holds or improves his conditioning, he will win.

I hope i'm mistaken...
Kai owns Vic in leg department so bad that its not even funny.IMHO.

willie mosconi · « **Reply #32 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:36:59 PM »

Kai's physique reminds me of a prime Aaron Baker

physicsgeek · « **Reply #33 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:37:21 PM »

Vic on almost all shots.

pumpster · « **Reply #34 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:39:35 PM »

Quote from: Arkadius on March 07, 2009, 12:36:31 PM

I hope i'm mistaken...
Kai owns Vic in leg department so bad that its not even funny.IMHO.

Not, because while kai's a little leaner he has poor aesthetics and structure, including blocky thighs. Vic beats him on upper bo and is close on legs thanks to aesthetics and muscle shape, even if not as lean.

Nothing much most of these guys in this show with poor structure and aesthetics can do against someone who has those qualities, like Vic, if Vic's on. They can't fix it with more training.

QuakerOats · « **Reply #35 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:40:32 PM »

Quote from: Arkadius on March 07, 2009, 12:36:31 PM

I hope i'm mistaken...
Kai owns Vic in leg department so bad that its not even funny.IMHO.

maybe Victor doesn't like to squat and leg press Arkadius.

Method101 · « **Reply #36 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:43:26 PM »

If Kai loses i say we all form Team Greene and post these comparison pictures of him/victor everywhere and call bullshit for the rest of eternity.

pumpster · « **Reply #37 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:45:49 PM »

Quote from: Method101 on March 07, 2009, 12:43:26 PM

If Kai loses i say we all form Team Greene and post these comparison pictures of him/victor everywhere and call bullshit for the rest of eternity.

Pics can be misleading. The video shows that kai's a little leaner but has structural issues including blocky quads and no flow.

wes · « **Reply #38 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:47:08 PM »

IMO,Kai all the way.........no question!

Benny B · « **Reply #39 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:48:25 PM »

Quote from: willie mosconi on March 07, 2009, 12:36:59 PM

Kai's physique reminds me of a prime Aaron Baker

Kai has more mass, Aaron had a better structure.

Aaron was similar to Flez Wheeler in his prime.

Stavios · « **Reply #40 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:48:35 PM »

Quote from: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:14:31 PM

based on those shots i've got Branch first, Kai second and Vic third.

Exactly

technokc · « **Reply #41 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:49:35 PM »

I would be happy with either Kai or Branch 1st and second, Victor's legs from the front are just too glaring of a weakness, and both Kai and Branch are huge and in shape. Neither has a pretty physique but both have brought close to the best they can and deserve the spot by their shear muscle mass.

Victor obviously has the superior structure but that shouldnt carry him through. . . unfortunately I highly doubt the would "give" the win to either Kai or Branch in a big show like this.

On another note too bad Toney came in soft, could have been money in the bank for him if he showed up looking like he did at the O.

Stavios · « **Reply #42 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:51:50 PM »

Toney wasn't soft, he was super flat.

he should not have cut his water

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #43 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:53:14 PM »

kai is blocky ..
..shallow traps.... very short torso
victor owns him all day..
based on this showing of victior
i dont see him stopping dexter or heath

Arkadius · « **Reply #44 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:54:16 PM »

Quote from: pumpster on March 07, 2009, 12:45:49 PM

Pics can be misleading. The video shows that kai's a little leaner but has structural issues including blocky quads and no flow.

Blocky quads...it's called muscles, pumpster

But i agree that Victor has better aesthetics than Kai.

Stavios · « **Reply #45 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:54:27 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on March 07, 2009, 12:53:14 PM

kai is blocky ..
..shallow traps.... very short torso
victor owns him all day..
based on this showing of victior
i dont see him stopping dexter or heath

Victor lost his magic.

he was in better condition in 2007

spinnis · « **Reply #46 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:55:11 PM »

BRANCH IS A FUCKING MONSTER.

Boost · « **Reply #47 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:56:25 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on March 07, 2009, 12:53:14 PM

kai is blocky ..
..shallow traps.... very short torso
victor owns him all day..
based on this showing of victior
i dont see him stopping dexter or heath

Heath has Jumped over Martinez big time.

From the calves to the conditioning..

technokc · « **Reply #48 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:56:49 PM »

Quote from: Stavios on March 07, 2009, 12:51:50 PM

Toney wasn't soft, he was super flat.

he should not have cut his water

Whatever you want to call it I don't think there is any denying his form from the O would have cleaned up here.

BIG_STI · « **Reply #49 on:** March 07, 2009, 12:58:30 PM »

Quote from: QuakerOats on March 07, 2009, 12:14:31 PM

based on those shots i've got Branch first, Kai second and Vic third.

Are you blind?

Author Topic: Kai vs. Vic (Read 6434 times)

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