Author Topic: Tony Mandarich (Read 12751 times)

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #25 on:** April 01, 2009, 03:47:12 PM »

Quote from: wild willie on April 01, 2009, 12:38:28 PM

Tony Mandrich had a decent career..... he was a little over hyped but he at least played for a while...... 2 of the most over hyped guys ever were Trev Alberts of Nebraska and Ryan Leaf of Washington State.

Rick Leach was also a highly touted player that turned out to be a BUST

regmac · « **Reply #26 on:** April 24, 2009, 02:38:37 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on March 07, 2009, 04:42:28 PM

No doubt. GB took him over Barry and Deion.

Drafting's like a box of chocalates!!!

Dos Equis · « **Reply #27 on:** April 24, 2009, 03:22:35 PM »

Quote from: regmac on April 24, 2009, 02:38:37 PM

Drafting's like a box of chocalates!!!

You got that right. You really don't know if you're getting Manning or Leaf.

regmac · « **Reply #28 on:** April 24, 2009, 03:30:37 PM »

Believe it or not Chase Daniels may end up being the Tom Brady (drafted or not) of all the opther qb's. The only thing against him is is hight, other than that he was one of the most outstanding qbs this year and last. I am hoping Dallas nabs him in the 5th just to play it safe.

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #29 on:** April 24, 2009, 03:31:14 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on April 24, 2009, 03:22:35 PM

You got that right. You really don't know if you're getting Manning or Leaf.

Eddie George or Lawrence Phillips. (note: I don't know if they were the same draft class...just making another boom vs bust comparison)

Grape Ape · « **Reply #30 on:** April 24, 2009, 03:58:16 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 12, 2009, 01:12:14 PM

The what happens when they get into the pro's? They stop juicing? If they needed juice to get to the pro level to begin with, then what happens when they go pro? They stay on cycle throughout the season, every year to stay above the competition??

Maybe I'm naive but don't think that's the case. I still think the % is lower than 60%.

I read in one of the steroid book (can't remember which one) that said the NFL drug test was easy to beat. Anyway, they only were able to detect THG because someone sent them a sample, so it's not naive to think there's a ton of other undetectable, designer drugs out there.

I think it's the same with baseball. Guys still use, but are careful not to get the ripped Luiz Gonzalez / Bentio Santiago look, or bulk up too much.

Dos Equis · « **Reply #31 on:** April 24, 2009, 04:03:34 PM »

Quote from: Andy Griffin on April 24, 2009, 03:31:14 PM

Eddie George or Lawrence Phillips. (note: I don't know if they were the same draft class...just making another boom vs bust comparison)

Yep. Same draft. 1996. Some other notables from that draft:

1st - Me-Shawn

18th - Eddie Kennison

19th - Marvin Harrison

26th - Ray Lewis

andreisdaman · « **Reply #32 on:** April 24, 2009, 09:14:44 PM »

biggest busts in NFL history

Tony Mandarich

Brian Bosworth

Ryan Leaf

Art Schlicter (gambling and jail)

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #33 on:** April 24, 2009, 10:01:22 PM »

Archie Griffin

andreisdaman · « **Reply #34 on:** April 25, 2009, 02:54:49 PM »

Quote from: Doug_Steele on April 24, 2009, 10:01:22 PM

Archie Griffin

Archie wasn't really a bust..just an average player....played a number of years

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #35 on:** April 25, 2009, 03:05:00 PM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on April 25, 2009, 02:54:49 PM

Archie wasn't really a bust..just an average player....played a number of years

Kind of an Aundray Bruce-like figure.

jerseyhurricane · « **Reply #36 on:** April 25, 2009, 06:42:28 PM »

Robert Gallery reminds me of Mandarich sort of.

njflex · « **Reply #37 on:** April 28, 2009, 11:20:10 AM »

Quote from: andreisdaman on April 24, 2009, 09:14:44 PM

biggest busts in NFL history

Tony Mandarich

Brian Bosworth

Ryan Leaf

Art Schlicter (gambling and jail)

colts steve ettman,was another monster type with avg career.

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #38 on:** April 28, 2009, 02:20:46 PM »

Quote from: njflex on April 28, 2009, 11:20:10 AM

colts steve ettman,was another monster type with avg career.

True, although I take a softer view on him since his career was hampered by injuries as opposed to being a knucklehead.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #39 on:** April 28, 2009, 02:44:52 PM »

Todd Marinovich......QB picked by Oakland....super bust!!!!

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #40 on:** April 28, 2009, 05:28:48 PM »

Maurice Claurett

njflex · « **Reply #41 on:** April 28, 2009, 07:36:52 PM »

here's an old school player remember eric dorsey giants,not a bust but kind of a pre strahan type with potential,was huge saw him at movies with what was known at the time a blond type white girl hot ,he had traps that started at the ears and big arms.

andreisdaman · « **Reply #42 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:24:50 PM »

Recent bust......REGGIE BUSH

Dos Equis · « **Reply #43 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:30:40 PM »

I don't think Bush is a bust. A little injury prone, but very good player. Probably a little early to judge him too.

ATHEIST · « **Reply #44 on:** April 29, 2009, 01:17:30 PM »

Quote from: Beach Bum on April 29, 2009, 12:30:40 PM

I don't think Bush is a bust. A little injury prone, but very good player. Probably a little early to judge him too.

to be taken as what the second pick in the draft? and all the hype about him coming out of college..and now he's not an every down back though he may be solid as a kick returner, he is near being a bust i would say. Im sure there are players picked in that same draft that who are more valuable to their team. The Texans made the right choice.

Matt Leinhart is also a bust, though he did drop in the draft.

hopefully Colt can move up the the 2nd spot!

njflex · « **Reply #45 on:** April 29, 2009, 01:25:27 PM »

Quote from: ATHEIST on April 29, 2009, 01:17:30 PM

to be taken as what the second pick in the draft? and all the hype about him coming out of college..and now he's not an every down back though he may be solid as a kick returner, he is near being a bust i would say. Im sure there are players picked in that same draft that who are more valuable to their team. The Texans made the right choice.

Matt Leinhart is also a bust, though he did drop in the draft.

hopefully Colt can move up the the 2nd spot!

MAtt gets a pass due to warner's hot hand right now.

ATHEIST · « **Reply #46 on:** April 29, 2009, 04:29:09 PM »

Quote from: njflex on April 29, 2009, 01:25:27 PM

MAtt gets a pass due to warner's hot hand right now.

but they tried to hand him the team a few times already. Warner has been hot for a few years now in AZ with the same weapons that Leinhar had. this is the first year going in to the season that AZ has had an official starter, the previous years it was either Leinhart penciled in as the starter or an open comp. i really have no faith in the guy already.

i remember Dan Mcguire also from San Diego State, marks brother he was like 6'8" or something and highly touted as an nfl prospect.

and Michael Stonbreaker from Notre Dame the LB..

andreisdaman · « **Reply #47 on:** April 29, 2009, 04:49:07 PM »

that quarterback for the Tennessee Titans, Vince Young, might become a bust if he doesn't get his job back from Kerry Collins

Dos Equis · « **Reply #48 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:12:04 PM »

Quote from: ATHEIST on April 29, 2009, 01:17:30 PM

to be taken as what the second pick in the draft? and all the hype about him coming out of college..and now he's not an every down back though he may be solid as a kick returner, he is near being a bust i would say. Im sure there are players picked in that same draft that who are more valuable to their team. The Texans made the right choice.

Matt Leinhart is also a bust, though he did drop in the draft.

hopefully Colt can move up the the 2nd spot!

I think he should have been the first overall pick. His production has been pretty good over three years, especially given that he was in RBBC with McAllister and others:

1550 yards rushing, 12 TDs
1599 yards receiving, 8 TDs
4 TDs on punt returns

I wouldn't call that a bust at all.

I never liked Leinart. Always thought he was overrated. But I think it's too early to call him a bust too.

I think Colt can be the QB2. He was on 1420 the other morning and said he is about 90 percent healthy. Did you hear they also signed Chase Daniels?

Doug_Steele · « **Reply #49 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:41:12 PM »

Mike Williams out of U$C and Charles Rodgers out of M$U

My poor Lions