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Good job Barry.....

If this was Bush...well anyway. Barry ain't ready. We had troops on the ground by Oct 18, 2001. We had CIA on the ground by 21 Sept. But Barry is ready to be president right. This guy is a failure.


Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

British officials, meanwhile, admit that the White House and US State Department staff were utterly bemused by complaints that the Prime Minister should have been granted full-blown press conference and a formal dinner, as has been customary. They concede that Obama aides seemed unfamiliar with the expectations that surround a major visit by a British prime minister.

But Washington figures with access to Mr Obama's inner circle explained the slight by saying that those high up in the administration have had little time to deal with international matters, let alone the diplomatic niceties of the special relationship.

Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

A well-connected Washington figure, who is close to members of Mr Obama's inner circle, expressed concern that Mr Obama had failed so far to "even fake an interest in foreign policy".

A British official conceded that the furore surrounding the apparent snub to Mr Brown had come as a shock to the White House. "I think it's right to say that their focus is elsewhere, on domestic affairs. A number of our US interlocutors said they couldn't quite understand the British concerns and didn't get what that was all about."

The American source said: "Obama is overwhelmed. There is a zero sum tension between his ability to attend to the economic issues and his ability to be a proactive sculptor of the national security agenda.

"That was the gamble these guys made at the front end of this presidency and I think they're finding it a hard thing to do everything."

British diplomats insist the visit was a success, with officials getting the chance to develop closer links with Mr Obama's aides. They point out that the president has agreed to meet the prime minister for further one-to-one talks in London later this month, ahead of the G20 summit on April 2.

But they concede that the mood music of the event was at times strained. Mr Brown handed over carefully selected gifts, including a pen holder made from the wood of a warship that helped stamp out the slave trade - a sister ship of the vessel from which timbers were taken to build Mr Obama's Oval Office desk. Mr Obama's gift in return, a collection of Hollywood film DVDs that could have been bought from any high street store, looked like the kind of thing the White House might hand out to the visiting head of a minor African state.

Mr Obama rang Mr Brown as he flew home, in what many suspected was an attempt to make amends.

The real views of many in Obama administration were laid bare by a State Department official involved in planning the Brown visit, who reacted with fury when questioned by The Sunday Telegraph about why the event was so low-key.

The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying: "There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment." The apparent lack of attention to detail by the Obama administration is indicative of what many believe to be Mr Obama's determination to do too much too quickly.

In addition to passing the largest stimulus package and the largest budget in US history, Mr Obama is battling a plummeting stock market, the possible bankruptcy of General Motors, and rising unemployment. He has also begun historic efforts to achieve universal healthcare, overhaul education and begin a green energy revolution all in his first 50 days in office.

The Sunday Telegraph understands that one of Mr Obama's most prominent African American backers, whose endorsement he spent two years cultivating, has told friends that he detects a weakness in Mr Obama's character.

"The one real serious flaw I see in Barack Obama is that he thinks he can manage all this," the well-known figure told a Washington official, who spoke to this newspaper. "He's underestimating the flood of things that will hit his desk." A Democratic strategist, who is friends with several senior White House aides, revealed that the president has regularly appeared worn out and drawn during evening work sessions with senior staff in the West Wing and has been forced to make decisions more quickly than he is comfortable.

He said that on several occasions the president has had to hurry back from eating dinner with his family in the residence and then tucking his daughters in to bed, to conduct urgent government business. Matters are not helped by the pledge to give up smoking.

"People say he looks tired more often than they're used to," the strategist said. "He's still calm, but there have been flashes of irritation when he thinks he's being pushed to make a decision sooner than he wants to make it. He looks like he needs a cigarette."

Mr Obama was teased by the New York Times on Thursday in a front page story which claimed to have detected a greater prevalence of grey hairs since he entered the White House.

The Democratic strategist stressed that Mr Obama's plight was nothing new. "He knew it was going to be tough; he said as much throughout the campaign. But there's a difference between knowing it is going to be tough and facing the sheer relentless pressure of it all."
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2009, 01:52:21 AM »
Even the colossal dumb ass Joe Biden warned that the Presidency is no place for on the job training.

One thing I have discovered in life and almost always at the peril of the “leader” in charge is that the higher pay grade of the amateur the more catastrophic his decisions will be for the institution. In this case the institution is the United States of America.

Almost by definition an amateur is ultimately destined to screw up something significant. The larger his scope of responsibility and power the greater the risk that the screw up will be far reaching enough to actually put the viability of the institution in grave danger.

Obviously the presidency is a very dangerous place to put a rookie.

I have seen totally unqualified people placed in positions of responsibility over the years for a variety of reasons and I can’t recall a single instance where the individual succeeded. Watching the train wreck is never pretty and always follows a similar pattern. This is where my fear comes from.

Incompetency - Overwhelm – Exhaustion – Panic – Catastrophe

Is it time to be afraid? Gold soaring, gun sales spiking, stock market plummeting, unemployment rising, taxes soaring and massive inflation right around the corner…

Yeah, I think it’s getting time to be very concerned where this amateur is taking our country.

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2009, 01:52:59 AM »
dude did you listen to gordon browns speech?

it has nothing to do with what obama did but his speech kinda...scared me

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2009, 03:07:14 AM »
you guys fail to relize,,oabam is do ing the best he cand o you guys cant do no mbetter or you be there right now you were not elected by peole,,,,he was elected not you,,,

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2009, 03:17:58 AM »
Well I could spell better anyway.
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2009, 03:19:39 AM »
dude did you listen to gordon browns speech?

it has nothing to do with what obama did but his speech kinda...scared me


It was odd that these two guys are ideological kin, and Obama blows him off. Not to mention our closest allies.
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2009, 06:00:16 AM »
you guys fail to relize,,oabam is do ing the best he cand o you guys cant do no mbetter or you be there right now you were not elected by peole,,,,he was elected not you,,,
This isn't little league dude.  He knew he could never handle the job but he wanted to make history.   ::)
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2009, 06:02:02 AM »
Truly classless.  The UK is our best ally and Peter Pan acts like they are our enemy. 

What he did with the Churchill Bust and the 25 DVD Set was just disgusting. 


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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2009, 06:35:37 AM »
truely classless? bwahahaha

even if he did show good affection you would be the first to go on babling about him being a pawn to the global elite.


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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2009, 06:57:52 AM »
truely classless? bwahahaha

even if he did show good affection you would be the first to go on babling about him being a pawn to the global elite.



Why dont you read about what happened with the DVD Set and the cheap ass "gift" Michelle had to get from the gift shop because she was so embarassed at having nothing for them after they gave a very thoughtful gift to Obama and the Whitehouse.

Giving back the bust of Churchill that was given to the WH after 9/11 as a sign of solidarity was pure insult to our ally.

 

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2009, 07:04:03 AM »
oh big fucking deal. Obama didnt give a fancy gift and royal dinner boo fking hoo lets burn him at the stake.

its a wedge issue...do you think obama has more important shit on his mind, do you think we should be discussing more important shit like fdic ging broke rather than this bullshit, we're in a fking depression dipshit

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2009, 07:20:32 AM »
This isn't little league dude.  He knew he could never handle the job but he wanted to make history.   ::)
you dont do the job,,,,you get epople to do the jab for you,,,he knew this he hired best in societyto consalt and halp him mkae dekcisin,,,

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2009, 08:10:48 AM »
All that late night partying has caught up with Barry.  Brown is a douchbag anyway though.

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2009, 08:45:09 AM »
you dont do the job,,,,you get epople to do the jab for you,,,he knew this he hired best in societyto consalt and halp him mkae dekcisin,,,
You're right he's not doing the job, but neither are his "crack team".  He can barely get his cabinet picks in because they can't do their taxes and they are going to solve the financial crisis??
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2009, 11:19:22 AM »
Why dont you read about what happened with the DVD Set and the cheap ass "gift" Michelle had to get from the gift shop because she was so embarassed at having nothing for them after they gave a very thoughtful gift to Obama and the Whitehouse.

Giving back the bust of Churchill that was given to the WH after 9/11 as a sign of solidarity was pure insult to our ally.

 

What america is saying to the Brits is the REALTIONSHIP IS OVER..... The UK will become a part of the EU and america will go it alone
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2009, 11:26:17 AM »
What america is saying to the Brits is the REALTIONSHIP IS OVER..... The UK will become a part of the EU and america will go it alone

This is very stupid IMHO.  We need all the friends we can get right now. 

The Brits have always been reliable allies.

Who is going to partner with us - Kenya?????     

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2009, 11:36:34 AM »
This is very stupid IMHO.  We need all the friends we can get right now. 

The Brits have always been reliable allies.

Who is going to partner with us - Kenya?????    

How has this "partnership" with any other nation actually HELPED the US anyway? When was the last time some external nation actually did something that could even be conceived as helpful?


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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2009, 11:52:24 AM »
How has this "partnership" with any other nation actually HELPED the US anyway? When was the last time some external nation actually did something that could even be conceived as helpful?



Another recent graduate of the public school system chipes in. 

Read your history fool. 

Whether it be WW1, WW2, WOT, Sharing Intel, etc, the Brits have always been our best ally.   

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2009, 01:12:52 PM »
Another recent graduate of the public school system chipes in. 

Read your history fool. 

Whether it be WW1, WW2, WOT, Sharing Intel, etc, the Brits have always been our best ally.   

Haha... You're really grasping.. If I look at those wars... It's the US that came in and saved everyone else's ass... The brits did not AID us... We aided them.

Oh... and since your education must be so much better than mine, let me educate you.

FRANCE has been our best Ally... When the Brits were fighting us in 1776 it was the French that enabled us to defeat them during the American Revolution. If it weren't for FRANCE, we wouldn't even be a country.

How's your education again? Don't talk to me about History when your understanding of it is rudimentary at best.

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2009, 01:27:17 PM »
Wow....apparently u don't understand our relationship with the UK. We have a completely different relationship with the Commonwealth nations then with anybody else. Our militaries share 99% of all intel. Our command structures are intergrated when we go to war. The damm brits held off the nazis long enough for the US to enter the war and inavde western Europe. They helped us win the Cold War..they're in Iraq and Afghanistan....France... .France ur kidding right. They're worthless..besides the Revolution, worthless. Dropped out of NATO, won't support anything we do. Won't uphold embargoes, worthless military...the list is endless.
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2009, 01:39:29 PM »
Wow....apparently u don't understand our relationship with the UK. We have a completely different relationship with the Commonwealth nations then with anybody else. Our militaries share 99% of all intel. Our command structures are intergrated when we go to war. The damm brits held off the nazis long enough for the US to enter the war and inavde western Europe. They helped us win the Cold War..they're in Iraq and Afghanistan....France... .France ur kidding right. They're worthless..besides the Revolution, worthless. Dropped out of NATO, won't support anything we do. Won't uphold embargoes, worthless military...the list is endless.

Wow... Worthless... Nice... So what you're saying is that our oldest ally is worthless.

Funny, they seem to have the best healthcare... but they're worthless.

Oh, you mean their military?

Who gives a shit... The UK military is just as worthless to the US as the french military is now. Oh... You're saying the US NEEDS the UK... Oh... I see.

Why do we need them again? Their intelligence is better than ours? Their forces are better trained? What is the reason again?

Let me make sure I understand what you're saying. We (The US) spends more in defense than the next 10 countries combined, but apparently we NEED the UK.

Riiiiight.

What does that say about the Military you're enlisted in HH6... I mean... Apparently you need the UK to help you. Is that right?

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2009, 01:42:34 PM »
Wow... Worthless... Nice... So what you're saying is that our oldest ally is worthless.

Funny, they seem to have the best healthcare... but they're worthless.

Oh, you mean their military?

Who gives a shit... The UK military is just as worthless to the US as the french military is now. Oh... You're saying the US NEEDS the UK... Oh... I see.

Why do we need them again? Their intelligence is better than ours? Their forces are better trained? What is the reason again?

Let me make sure I understand what you're saying. We (The US) spends more in defense than the next 10 countries combined, but apparently we NEED the UK.

Riiiiight.

What does that say about the Military you're enlisted in HH6... I mean... Apparently you need the UK to help you. Is that right?

France is broke you fool.  If you think that France is in any better shape than us your are completely deluded. 

Europe is closer to collapse than we are.

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2009, 01:44:58 PM »
France is broke you fool.  If you think that France is in any better shape than us your are completely deluded. 

Europe is closer to collapse than we are.


What does their financial status have to do with whether or not their our oldest ally? Can we stay on topic for just a minute.

You have not disputed any of my points as of yet... I'm still waiting.

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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2009, 01:56:57 PM »
They are an old ally...not the oldest. We don't need the UK, militarily as much as we need them for moral support. Our relationship with the UK is unlike anybody elses in the world. Nobody is as close as we are. Ur handwaiving a snub by our moronic president, to our oldest and closest friend. Obama is an idiot.
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Re: Barack Obama 'too tired' to give proper welcome to Gordon Brown
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2009, 02:26:16 PM »
Good job Barry.....

If this was Bush...well anyway. Barry ain't ready. We had troops on the ground by Oct 18, 2001. We had CIA on the ground by 21 Sept. But Barry is ready to be president right. This guy is a failure.


Sources close to the White House say Mr Obama and his staff have been "overwhelmed" by the economic meltdown and have voiced concerns that the new president is not getting enough rest.

British officials, meanwhile, admit that the White House and US State Department staff were utterly bemused by complaints that the Prime Minister should have been granted full-blown press conference and a formal dinner, as has been customary. They concede that Obama aides seemed unfamiliar with the expectations that surround a major visit by a British prime minister.

But Washington figures with access to Mr Obama's inner circle explained the slight by saying that those high up in the administration have had little time to deal with international matters, let alone the diplomatic niceties of the special relationship.

Allies of Mr Obama say his weary appearance in the Oval Office with Mr Brown illustrates the strain he is now under, and the president's surprise at the sheer volume of business that crosses his desk.

A well-connected Washington figure, who is close to members of Mr Obama's inner circle, expressed concern that Mr Obama had failed so far to "even fake an interest in foreign policy".

A British official conceded that the furore surrounding the apparent snub to Mr Brown had come as a shock to the White House. "I think it's right to say that their focus is elsewhere, on domestic affairs. A number of our US interlocutors said they couldn't quite understand the British concerns and didn't get what that was all about."

The American source said: "Obama is overwhelmed. There is a zero sum tension between his ability to attend to the economic issues and his ability to be a proactive sculptor of the national security agenda.

"That was the gamble these guys made at the front end of this presidency and I think they're finding it a hard thing to do everything."

British diplomats insist the visit was a success, with officials getting the chance to develop closer links with Mr Obama's aides. They point out that the president has agreed to meet the prime minister for further one-to-one talks in London later this month, ahead of the G20 summit on April 2.

But they concede that the mood music of the event was at times strained. Mr Brown handed over carefully selected gifts, including a pen holder made from the wood of a warship that helped stamp out the slave trade - a sister ship of the vessel from which timbers were taken to build Mr Obama's Oval Office desk. Mr Obama's gift in return, a collection of Hollywood film DVDs that could have been bought from any high street store, looked like the kind of thing the White House might hand out to the visiting head of a minor African state.

Mr Obama rang Mr Brown as he flew home, in what many suspected was an attempt to make amends.

The real views of many in Obama administration were laid bare by a State Department official involved in planning the Brown visit, who reacted with fury when questioned by The Sunday Telegraph about why the event was so low-key.

The official dismissed any notion of the special relationship, saying: "There's nothing special about Britain. You're just the same as the other 190 countries in the world. You shouldn't expect special treatment." The apparent lack of attention to detail by the Obama administration is indicative of what many believe to be Mr Obama's determination to do too much too quickly.

In addition to passing the largest stimulus package and the largest budget in US history, Mr Obama is battling a plummeting stock market, the possible bankruptcy of General Motors, and rising unemployment. He has also begun historic efforts to achieve universal healthcare, overhaul education and begin a green energy revolution all in his first 50 days in office.

The Sunday Telegraph understands that one of Mr Obama's most prominent African American backers, whose endorsement he spent two years cultivating, has told friends that he detects a weakness in Mr Obama's character.

"The one real serious flaw I see in Barack Obama is that he thinks he can manage all this," the well-known figure told a Washington official, who spoke to this newspaper. "He's underestimating the flood of things that will hit his desk." A Democratic strategist, who is friends with several senior White House aides, revealed that the president has regularly appeared worn out and drawn during evening work sessions with senior staff in the West Wing and has been forced to make decisions more quickly than he is comfortable.

He said that on several occasions the president has had to hurry back from eating dinner with his family in the residence and then tucking his daughters in to bed, to conduct urgent government business. Matters are not helped by the pledge to give up smoking.

"People say he looks tired more often than they're used to," the strategist said. "He's still calm, but there have been flashes of irritation when he thinks he's being pushed to make a decision sooner than he wants to make it. He looks like he needs a cigarette."

Mr Obama was teased by the New York Times on Thursday in a front page story which claimed to have detected a greater prevalence of grey hairs since he entered the White House.

The Democratic strategist stressed that Mr Obama's plight was nothing new. "He knew it was going to be tough; he said as much throughout the campaign. But there's a difference between knowing it is going to be tough and facing the sheer relentless pressure of it all."


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