Author Topic: Ronnie was good, but he was no Dorian Yates (Read 6193 times)

regmac · « **Reply #25 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:01:50 PM »

Well Yates was great but he was no Haney. Haney was TotaLee awesome , but he was no Arnold.

bigbobs · « **Reply #26 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:02:37 PM »

Quote from: bigguns23 on March 11, 2009, 05:44:06 PM

It's unavoidable man.

Iceman1981 · « **Reply #27 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:06:44 PM »

Quote from: England_1 on March 11, 2009, 05:40:01 PM

Also, in these pictures Ronnie was closer to his prime than Dorian. Dorian at his best is untouchable.

These pics are from 96'

Ronnie was 2 years away from hitting his prime (98' which most people consider)

Dorian was 1 year after hitting his prime (95' which most people consider)

Now who was closer to their prime? LOL

regmac · « **Reply #28 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:06:55 PM »

Nothing against Nasser, he was always cool to me. I put him in Ruhl's department though. A fan favorite!!!!

regmac · « **Reply #29 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:08:11 PM »

Quote from: Iceman1981 on March 11, 2009, 09:06:44 PM

These pics are from 96'

Ronnie was 2 years away from hitting his prime (98' which most people consider)

Dorian was 1 year after hitting his prime (95' which most people consider)

Now who was closer to their prime? LOL

Didn't Yates only have ONE ARM that year? YIKES!!!!!!

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #30 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:11:02 PM »

Quote from: England_1 on March 11, 2009, 05:40:01 PM

Dorian is simply put, the greatest ever. No one really compares to Dorian in all aspects of bodybuilding: dominance on the Olympia stage, intelligence towards training and nutrition, and diligence in the gym.

Also, in these pictures Ronnie was closer to his prime than Dorian. Dorian at his best is untouchable.

no ronnie here was far away from his best.. he was still considered as a 2nd level pro.

regmac · « **Reply #31 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:11:35 PM »

One thing I CAN give Yates credit for. He was the most improved IFBBer ever. He looked goofy but promissing when he took second to Momo....then after a year of busting his ass...he came back with a back that had me saying PHUQ!!!!!! In a bookstore in Washington DC in 91. Remember the magazine cover with him doing one arm rows with a dumbell that weighed more that Flozell Adams soak and wet?

bigbobs · « **Reply #32 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:13:03 PM »

Nasser's "weak" back

After 95 Nasser brought his back up pretty good, was still one of the top 6 backs onstage, and of course the very best from the front.

regmac · « **Reply #33 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:14:48 PM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on March 11, 2009, 09:11:02 PM

no ronnie here was far away from his best.. he was still considered as a 2nd level pro.

Dorian did everything Franky warned Tony Montana from doing.....wanting it all to soon so fast ....all flash and then they don't last. Haney trained much safer than the other 2.....and his diet was much healthier.

bigbobs · « **Reply #34 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:15:11 PM »

Nasser outmassing everyone, even Dillet!

bigbobs · « **Reply #35 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:16:04 PM »

Nasser displaying the best ab-thigh onstage, as usual

regmac · « **Reply #36 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:17:35 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 11, 2009, 09:13:03 PM

Nasser's "weak" back

After 95 Nasser brought his back up pretty good, was still one of the top 6 backs onstage, and of course the very best from the front.

I guess Nasser was your basic seated rows...pulldowns back trainer...like everyone at Venice in the 90's. No one likes doing bent overs or THE REAL T Bar rows.....not many gyms have those machines though.

regmac · « **Reply #37 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:19:50 PM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on March 11, 2009, 09:11:02 PM

no ronnie here was far away from his best.. he was still considered as a 2nd level pro.

Wasn't Ronnie still (proclaimed) natural at that time?

regmac · « **Reply #38 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:23:23 PM »

Quote from: Big Dicked Bob on March 11, 2009, 09:19:18 PM

twice as big as ronnie and deadlifted way more

Why deadlift ? My gym ooops I mean fitness center has a nice chair you can sit in and work your lower back without loading a barbell on the floor then bending over to power it up (kidding I deadlift I have to). But deadlifts are dying out also.

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #39 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:24:16 PM »

Quote from: bigbobs on March 11, 2009, 09:15:11 PM

Nasser outmassing everyone, even Dillet!

at their best nasser had a better back than dillett but still no one talks/was talking about paul's back as much as nasser's.. this is because nasser's back was his ONLY weak part but paul and the other top pros had many..

Hulkster · « **Reply #40 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:25:39 PM »

holy fuck look at yates!!

that is a 6 time Mr. O?

dear god almighty:

why are we even comparing these two:

its not even close:

Wiggs · « **Reply #41 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:25:52 PM »

Once again. nasser "use to be somebody", 0 time at least Mr. O

Hulkster · « **Reply #42 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:27:11 PM »

Sherief Shalaby · « **Reply #43 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:27:25 PM »

Quote from: regmac on March 11, 2009, 09:08:11 PM

Didn't Yates only have ONE ARM that year? YIKES!!!!!!

no from 94 till 96 he had one arm and half.. by 97 he had only one arm

.. but no problem even if he had no arms at all he would still have won any show he entered!!..

brent2741 · « **Reply #44 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:27:43 PM »

agreed

regmac · « **Reply #45 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:28:01 PM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on March 11, 2009, 09:24:16 PM

at their best nasser had a better back than dillett but still no one talks/was talking about paul's back as much as nasser's.. this is because nasser's back was his ONLY weak part but paul and the other top pros had many..

What's so great about "outmassing" Paul he was just big....but not realy freaky except when he either just stood there or did that gay chest thing where vains came out but next to Dorian and Nasser, Paul looks like Anja Schriener!!!!

regmac · « **Reply #46 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:30:18 PM »

Quote from: Sherief Shalaby on March 11, 2009, 09:27:25 PM

no from 94 till 96 he had one arm and half.. by 97 he had only one arm .. but no problem even if he had no arms at all he would still have won any show he entered!!..

Sad fact I guess, but no wonder Shawn was whining!!!!! To me D only looked good in 93 even though he was more cut in 92 (might have been the lighting though).

Hulkster · « **Reply #47 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:31:39 PM »

who has a better waistline? dorian or mike myers?

regmac · « **Reply #48 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:34:21 PM »

Myers had would win the symmetry round.....wait, didn't D sweep Shawn, Lee LeBrada and Flex in that round?

bigbobs · « **Reply #49 on:** March 11, 2009, 09:35:24 PM »

Quote from: regmac on March 11, 2009, 09:17:35 PM

I guess Nasser was your basic seated rows...pulldowns back trainer...like everyone at Venice in the 90's. No one likes doing bent overs or THE REAL T Bar rows.....not many gyms have those machines though.

You can't build one of the top 6 backs onstage by only doing pulldowns and cable rows. Nasser rarely did these movements, the back exercises he did most often were deadlifts (full or half-reps), barbell rows (both overhead and underhand grips), t-bar rows (without the chest pad), one-arm dumbell rows, weighted chinups (close-reverse, wide, and close-parallell grips), and dumbell pullovers. He also did, but less often, lat pulldowns (behind the neck and front), seated cable rows, straight-arm cable pulldowns, and hyperextensions. He trained back twice a week, usually in the 6-15 rep range.