Author Topic: Pats about to get Peppers for the Cassel pick (RUMOR) (Read 5282 times)

body88 · « **on:** March 16, 2009, 02:48:41 PM »

NFLN thinks so.......stay tuned.

mass 04 · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2009, 03:13:50 PM »

If this goes through, it pretty much guarantees Seymour is gone. Correct?

americanbulldog · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2009, 04:32:59 PM »

I don't see how this will work for the Pats. Hell, the guy is a stud, but can he play DE in a 3-4. I know he said he wants to play OLB, but can he drop in coverage and cover a RB or tight end? If Seymour is gone, can Peppers suck up a guard and tackle so Thomas and the other OLB can make plays? Will he want to?

body88 · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2009, 05:07:45 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on March 16, 2009, 04:32:59 PM

I don't see how this will work for the Pats. Hell, the guy is a stud, but can he play DE in a 3-4. I know he said he wants to play OLB, but can he drop in coverage and cover a RB or tight end? If Seymour is gone, can Peppers suck up a guard and tackle so Thomas and the other OLB can make plays? Will he want to?

All great points and all of them make sense. However, I stopped asking about the pats trades after they brought in Welker. They have made to many good trades to know wtf they are doing until you see it on the field.

Then again, Bill could be fucking around with people just to do it, and then trade up in the draft and shock everyone.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2009, 05:21:46 PM »

Quote from: mass 04 on March 16, 2009, 03:13:50 PM

If this goes through, it pretty much guarantees Seymour is gone. Correct?

absolutely not. seymour is their bet defensive player period. He'll most likely switch between waren's spot and olb,peppers that is. I wonder if he'll even take warens starting job

mass 04 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2009, 05:24:53 PM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on March 16, 2009, 05:21:46 PM

absolutely not. seymour is their bet defensive player period. He'll most likely switch between waren's spot and olb,peppers that is. I wonder if he'll even take warens starting job

I thought Seymours contract was up after this season? If they get Peppers, i can't see them paying him, Seymour as well as Wilfork who's contract is up. I could be wrong.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2009, 05:25:47 PM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on March 16, 2009, 04:32:59 PM

I don't see how this will work for the Pats. Hell, the guy is a stud, but can he play DE in a 3-4. I know he said he wants to play OLB, but can he drop in coverage and cover a RB or tight end? If Seymour is gone, can Peppers suck up a guard and tackle so Thomas and the other OLB can make plays? Will he want to?

ofcourse he can play de in a 3-4. He's 280 pounds of pure muscle. Not some 255 pound speed rusher like most 4-3 ends.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2009, 05:28:04 PM »

Quote from: mass 04 on March 16, 2009, 05:24:53 PM

I thought Seymours contract was up after this season? If they get Peppers, i can't see them paying him, Seymour as well as Wilfork who's contract is up. I could be wrong.

body is better suited to answer this, i'm not sure their financial situation.

i'm sure they can hold onto their core and get peppers on top of it

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2009, 06:03:01 PM »

I find this hard to believe. Peppers was franchised by the Panthers, right? What would the Pats have to give up in order to acquire him in a trade? A first and second?

And also....this guy is a 4-3 DE. He may be a freakish athlete but he's no LB and has not been one in his entire 8 year NFL career.

body88 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2009, 06:40:57 PM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 16, 2009, 06:03:01 PM

I find this hard to believe. Peppers was franchised by the Panthers, right? What would the Pats have to give up in order to acquire him in a trade? A first and second?

And also....this guy is a 4-3 DE. He may be a freakish athlete but he's no LB and has not been one in his entire 8 year NFL career.

No, Vic Carruci says the #34 pick. Peppers wants to be traded and Carolina can let him go for whatever they see fit. Also, keep in mind Seymour's contract is up next season. Who knows at this point. If there was ever a great elephant LB candidate, it would be Peppers.

body88 · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2009, 06:43:24 PM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on March 16, 2009, 05:21:46 PM

absolutely not. seymour is their bet defensive player period. He'll most likely switch between waren's spot and olb,peppers that is. I wonder if he'll even take warens starting job

Doubtful....they just extended Warren and he is a beast. He will either play DE or an elephant lb...which he is suited for.

body88 · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2009, 06:46:26 PM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on March 16, 2009, 05:28:04 PM

body is better suited to answer this, i'm not sure their financial situation.

i'm sure they can hold onto their core and get peppers on top of it

Seymour is up....they are trying to extend Wilfork now and Warren was just locked up. Maybe big Sey is done in NE?

2ND COMING · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:14:45 PM »

Quote from: body88 on March 16, 2009, 06:46:26 PM

Seymour is up....they are trying to extend Wilfork now and Warren was just locked up. Maybe big Sey is done in NE?

dude i know seyour will cost more than warren but why sign warren and let seymour go? just ehhh. Seymour is a freak moreso than warren and he is just flat out better player.

body88 · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:26:44 PM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on March 16, 2009, 08:14:45 PM

dude i know seyour will cost more than warren but why sign warren and let seymour go? just ehhh. Seymour is a freak moreso than warren and he is just flat out better player.

Warren is already singed and has been for a year now. Warren is a beast and he came at a great price. He is only 26 years old and he wanted to sign something long term so they locked him up. He could have gotten way more on the open market. They locked Warren up before the start of last season. They need to extend Wilfork as he is the cornerstone of the entire D....and he is a beast. They can keep Seymour if they want to, but Sey is the one who didn't want to redo his deal last year.

2ND COMING · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2009, 08:31:21 PM »

Quote from: body88 on March 16, 2009, 08:26:44 PM

Warren is already singed and has been for a year now. Warren is a beast and he came at a great price. He is only 26 years old and he wanted to sign something long term so they locked him up. He could have gotten way more on the open market. They locked Warren up before the start of last season. They need to extend Wilfork as he is the cornerstone of the entire D....and he is a beast. They can keep Seymour if they want to, but Sey is the one who didn't want to redo his deal last year.

sey knew is he s a perenial pro bowler, perhaps he just wants out, test the market

and i agree, wilfork is he premier nose tackle in the league. along with hampton and rogers

Earl1972 · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2009, 09:14:23 PM »

why are these teams even considering trading their best players to super bowl threats

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americanbulldog · « **Reply #16 on:** March 17, 2009, 01:17:29 AM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on March 16, 2009, 05:25:47 PM

ofcourse he can play de in a 3-4. He's 280 pounds of pure muscle. Not some 255 pound speed rusher like most 4-3 ends.

Would he want to play DE in a 3-4. He won't get stats, he will be used as a plug between guard and tackle and the LBs will make all the plays. I don't see him wanting to do that. I don't see how he would be able to cover a RB coming out of the backfield. From what I have seen of his lateral footwork, it ain't All Pro level. Imaging him trying to chase Sproles, or Chris Johnson.

body88 · « **Reply #17 on:** March 17, 2009, 06:34:15 AM »

Quote from: 2ND COMING on March 16, 2009, 08:31:21 PM

sey knew is he s a perenial pro bowler, perhaps he just wants out, test the market

and i agree, wilfork is he premier nose tackle in the league. along with hampton and rogers

Maybe. Also, with so many teams switching to the 3/4.....good players are getting harder to find.

body88 · « **Reply #18 on:** March 17, 2009, 06:35:02 AM »

Quote from: americanbulldog on March 17, 2009, 01:17:29 AM

Would he want to play DE in a 3-4. He won't get stats, he will be used as a plug between guard and tackle and the LBs will make all the plays. I don't see him wanting to do that. I don't see how he would be able to cover a RB coming out of the backfield. From what I have seen of his lateral footwork, it ain't All Pro level. Imaging him trying to chase Sproles, or Chris Johnson.

He could be a true elephant lb in the 3/4.

CalvinH · « **Reply #19 on:** March 17, 2009, 07:40:31 AM »

As of right now the Panthers are denying any talks with the Pats.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #20 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:15:36 AM »

Quote from: CalvinH on March 17, 2009, 07:40:31 AM

As of right now the Panthers are denying any talks with the Pats.

That's only because Peppers has yet to sign the one year franchise tender offer of $16.7 MILLION. According to league rules, they can't talk trade until Peppers is officially a member of the Panthers.

Holy shit that's a lot of dough.....

CalvinH · « **Reply #21 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:19:55 AM »

Quote from: UPINTHEMGUTS on March 17, 2009, 08:15:36 AM

That's only because Peppers has yet to sign the one year franchise tender offer of $16.7 MILLION. According to league rules, they can't talk trade until Peppers is officially a member of the Panthers.

Holy shit that's a lot of dough.....

Oh,I didn't know that.

UPINTHEMGUTS · « **Reply #22 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:20:43 AM »

Quote from: Earl1972 on March 16, 2009, 09:14:23 PM

why are these teams even considering trading their best players to super bowl threats

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Peppers is forcing their hand. He doesn't want to play for the Panthers anymore and the Panthers have franchised him which forbids him to sign with another team as a free agent. Trading him to the Patriots takes him over to the AFC. Why would the Panthers care about trading him to an AFC non-conference team, such as the Patriots? Obviously, it's only a concern to the fans of other contending AFC teams, such as the Steelers.

One thing I do know....the Panthers better get WAY MORE than the Patriots #34 second round pick. That's a bullshit trade exchange that only benefits the Patriots. The Panthers should be asking for a minimum of a first and a third round pick.

Grape Ape · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2009, 08:36:14 AM »

Adam Shefter said on EEI this morning that he is 99.99% sure that Pepper will not be a Patriot next year.

body88 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2009, 10:43:13 AM »

Quote from: Grape Ape on March 17, 2009, 08:36:14 AM

Adam Shefter said on EEI this morning that he is 99.99% sure that Pepper will not be a Patriot next year.

Shefter is usually correct, so this one looks like a rumor, UNLESS he is tyring to take the heat of the Panthers for this story being leaked before peppers signs his tender.