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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2009, 12:28:51 PM »
Yes, I think most often it is a polite smile. Sometimes it's kinda a little more. The vibe is a bit more..."oh, you like me...well you're quite cute so I don't mind it" but still not an open invitation to saunter over and start talking over cappuccinos.

Hey, the guy who accosted you on the street got the coffee opportunity...His forwardness got his foot in door, tough for him that he couldn't get it open :)

You're sort of contradicting your point here a little.

His forwardness did give him an opportunity... So why wouldn't you take the "vibe" as an invitation?
A smile might be all you will get.
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2009, 12:30:31 PM »
We have winner here!

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Yes and by the time you get done playing the "game of pursuit" as you so well put it............the excitement of hooking up almost fades as fast as it came.  Most guys go straight for the hooking up and bypass the whole game altogether.

Delta us so called "cybergeeks" aren't the one on a bodybuilding website seeking out help in order to understand the psyche of 21st century single women.   ::)  I'm 29 and my days of playing the game are over.  I'm getting married in June.  I will say some of the most exciting and fun women I've ever dated were late 20's to early 30's (when I was in my early 20's).  I even dated a few 38 year olds.  Young guys have no idea what they are missing out on when they go for all these frivolous young bimbos. 


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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2009, 12:34:57 PM »
You're sort of contradicting your point here a little.

His forwardness did give him an opportunity... So why wouldn't you take the "vibe" as an invitation?
A smile might be all you will get.

Maybe, good point, but I thought you kinda contradicted yourself when you said it would be fine for the sandwich bar guy to run after you in the street and introduce himself but "can I get your  number guy" was way too forward .. although, you still give him the "coffee shot".

I think the biggest problem is that people assume I'm asking for tips on picking up girls -- that I don't need -- when I'm more interested in hearing about the private thoughts and social signals of women.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #28 on: March 18, 2009, 12:36:33 PM »
Yes, I think most often it is a polite smile. Sometimes it's kinda a little more. The vibe is a bit more..."oh, you like me...well you're quite cute so I don't mind it" but still not an open invitation to saunter over and start talking over cappuccinos.

Hey, the guy who accosted you on the street got the coffee opportunity...His forwardness got his foot in door, tough for him that he couldn't get it open :)

You're really over analyzing everything.  The entire point is women aren't going to give you an open invitation to ask them out.  All a smile means is ok...let's see what you got big guy.  That's where flirting, teasing in a charming way, flattery, come into play and most of all conversation and interest.  If you have to think so hard about talking to women you've already lost the battle.  Good looks or not.  

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #29 on: March 18, 2009, 12:40:46 PM »
Maybe, good point, but I thought you kinda contradicted yourself when you said it would be fine for the sandwich bar guy to run after you in the street and introduce himself but "can I get your  number guy" was way too forward .. although, you still give him the "coffee shot".

I think the biggest problem is that people assume I'm asking for tips on picking up girls -- that I don't need -- when I'm more interested in hearing about the private thoughts and social signals of women.

You're making out the private thoughts and social signals of women to be much more complex than they are.  Women's signals can change in an instant.....like everything else in their life........clothes, shoes, hair, etc.  LOL.  Women nowadays are extremely picky. 

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #30 on: March 18, 2009, 12:44:45 PM »
We're not picky...
It is just the quality control in the gene pool has dropped severely
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #31 on: March 18, 2009, 12:54:06 PM »
We're not picky...
It is just the quality control in the gene pool has dropped severely
 ;D ;D

(just kidding, no hate mail)




I've met my fair share of crazy/loser women in person and doing the online dating thing.  But as far as online dating goes there are WAY more decent women to choose from than men in my opinion.  I actually feel sorry for some of the women on those sites because some are really great catches and are looking for a genuine relationship. 

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #32 on: March 18, 2009, 02:43:50 PM »
If I run after in the street and say "hi" you wouldn't find that too forward?

I had a guy do that to me long ago when I was single and I gave him my number.  I never went out w/him but I remember his name to this day.


Deltsa, I think that OS said it already but these diff. smiles from diff. women can mean so many diff. things.  Maybe the gal in front of you in line for coffee that gave you a couple of coy smiles thinks you're cute and wants you to talk to her. ......or maybe she accidentally let one fly and was embarrassed that you may have heard/smelled it.

So many different possibilities! 

Maybe give us all the details on your next smile encounter and we can analyze it more thoroughly....like was her chin tilted down and was she batting her eyelashes at you etc.
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #33 on: March 18, 2009, 02:54:54 PM »
I had a guy do that to me long ago when I was single and I gave him my number.  I never went out w/him but I remember his name to this day.


Deltsa, I think that OS said it already but these diff. smiles from diff. women can mean so many diff. things.  Maybe the gal in front of you in line for coffee that gave you a couple of coy smiles thinks you're cute and wants you to talk to her. ......or maybe she accidentally let one fly and was embarrassed that you may have heard/smelled it.

So many different possibilities! 

Maybe give us all the details on your next smile encounter and we can analyze it more thoroughly....like was her chin tilted down and was she batting her eyelashes at you etc.

I think I'm very good at reading signals. What I didn't want to do is appear arrogant (or just a cyber liar) but in truth most people would say I'm handsome. Hence I am aware that people in general do look at me quite a lot. I can tell when it's clearly not cool to approach and when it's very much the right time. I wasn't really asking about picking up girls --  I'll leave that to the guy who uses online dating sites to amass his portfolio of knowledge ;)

I am just interested because I have often thought that many times women want to be admired , want to know they are desired and enjoy the attentions of a good looking guy without anything more. In fact, anything more would be unwanted. I know this is true of me: there are times when I'm very grateful to be getting admiring glances from females but I don't want them to start talking to me and getting on my nerves.

Surely this is the same for you girls. Let's not be coy. You know if men are checking you out and often will smile back...would you do so if every time this little exchange happened he immediately leapt over to you?

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #34 on: March 18, 2009, 03:04:39 PM »
btw... i loved this :

Maybe the gal in front of you in line for coffee that gave you a couple of coy smiles thinks you're cute and wants you to talk to her. ......or maybe she accidentally let one fly and was embarrassed that you may have heard/smelled it.


excellent and very, very true. nothing makes a woman blush like an unwelcome fart ;D

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #35 on: March 18, 2009, 08:40:27 PM »
Jesus Christ!!!!................you guys are over-analyzing this!

  you see a girl you really like and she smiles at you..................hav e sum balls!/take a chance and go up to her and start a freaking conversation

you will know if the first 10 seconds if she is interested or not


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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2009, 09:19:48 PM »
 That's not even what I'm asking. I am not asking men if I should approach girls. I am  asking women about the kind of psychological motivations that affect and govern their behavior.


It's not "over analyzing", it's thinking.

It's not a "how to get girls" thread. Which, trust me, I don't need any help with -- and if I did it would not be on web forums that I sought it.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #37 on: March 19, 2009, 05:02:36 AM »
Just confidently introduce yourself.

There really aren't any secrets. :)
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #38 on: March 19, 2009, 06:18:44 AM »


I am just interested because I have often thought that many times women want to be admired , want to know they are desired and enjoy the attentions of a good looking guy without anything more. In fact, anything more would be unwanted. I know this is true of me: there are times when I'm very grateful to be getting admiring glances from females but I don't want them to start talking to me and getting on my nerves.

I think you're right.  Even if a woman is "taken," if she feels her partner doesn't appreciate or find her attractive, she may get that need somewhat filled when other males shoot her admiring glances.

Personally, any smiles I give to men have zero flirtation in them (I am happily married)...they are just friendly smiles like I would give to an 80 year old man or a female.



Surely this is the same for you girls. Let's not be coy. You know if men are checking you out and often will smile back...would you do so if every time this little exchange happened he immediately leapt over to you?
 
Def. not!





excellent and very, very true. nothing makes a woman blush like an unwelcome fart ;D

"Unwelcome" being the operative word ;D

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #39 on: March 19, 2009, 10:16:03 AM »
women make me  >:(

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #40 on: March 19, 2009, 04:39:01 PM »
I have a reasonably handsome face and I've noticed that women smile at me a lot. In late night settings -- bars and shit -- I will often get quite suggestive looks that feel like "talk to me". However, what I am less sure of is the kind of little brief 'flash' smiles I might get on a train, in Starbucks, the gym etc.. very often a woman will do this when she's with a guy ... so obviously approaching is NOT on.

What I really want to know is that if/when you make eye contact with a guy maybe a few times and flash a little smile or something..say in a coffee shop..this is not an invitation to approach and make conversation. would it be too forward in a stiffer, daytime environment to actually make conversation.?

For example, at the gym an older lady (hot) caught me looking at her, held my glance, looked away...then looked back again and gave me a very slight smile. As she was leaving the gym I was on some equipment and she kind of smiled at me but didn't look directly into my eyes.

So what is the point where it's like I'm being too forward and a creepy guy and where it's an obvious come-on like when you're in a bar at 10pm on Friday night it's just blatant to approach ?

Dont worry about what these women think!!!
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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #41 on: March 19, 2009, 05:19:28 PM »
I think you're right.  Even if a woman is "taken," if she feels her partner doesn't appreciate or find her attractive, she may get that need somewhat filled when other males shoot her admiring glances.





 Great point. I think guys will do the same thing with their girl too. It can be done simply to make a partner jealous, fulfil the need to feel attractive, and also to show your loved one that you're getting checked out and a bit of "catch" ;D

Of course for a woman it's a time she can be a bit flirtatious and know that she won't get hit on if her guy is with her.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #42 on: March 19, 2009, 05:35:12 PM »
You're really over analyzing everything.  The entire point is women aren't going to give you an open invitation to ask them out.  All a smile means is ok...let's see what you got big guy.  That's where flirting, teasing in a charming way, flattery, come into play and most of all conversation and interest.  If you have to think so hard about talking to women you've already lost the battle.  Good looks or not.  

Exactly, there was this co-worker, that she and and I were heavily flirting, but i never said anything to her (too complicated), but now we don't speak, no longer friends. She was my Moby Dick.

When you have a chance to say something, do it, because you may never have another shot.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #43 on: March 22, 2009, 09:34:13 PM »
i think delta may be overanalyzing, the subtle glances and smiles of women.  lots of women politely smile, and show eye contact but that doesnt mean they are interested or are waiting for you to pick up on them.  they are simply being polite, no mystery to it.
   now if you are speaking of women that you see on a regular basis say at the gym, at the office complex, etc, then yes, i think a conversation can be made, and one can introduce themselves, and slowly meet and potentialy date the woman.  but if its a one time situation where you see a girl (stranger) in public, that is different.  i find if a woman does not know me, and i try to get to know her, that she will rightly keep her guard up and my chances will be low of getting to meet her.
  Remember, women are very leary of strangers who approach them in public, and i dont blame them.  Now if you are going to approach a stranger, then a line that works well is "You look so familiar, do you go to xyz university, ".  shell say no, probably, but it is an ice breaker, and if the conversation goes somewhere, then cool.
  Another thing, if you do approach women on the street, then it is always good to act like you are somewhat nervous or that u feel a little awkward doing it.  women do not like players and if you are a player, you will not have a chance.  Nervousness, shyness and being a little flustered when you approach a woman, shows that you are genuine and that you are not a player.  i dont agree with one having to be super confident in order to get women.  guys that are super confident are the players/jerks 99% of the time.
   The more you approach women, the better you get, and YES it does take big balls to do it, but the results are worth it.  Besides whats the worse that happens, shell outright reject you, but youll survive.

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p.s. without saying,  ALWAYS, look and see if shes wearing a ring before you approach her.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2009, 05:25:58 AM »
p.s. without saying,  ALWAYS, look and see if shes wearing a ring before you approach her.

Not true. They put out sooner, and go home when you're done.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #45 on: March 23, 2009, 12:52:00 PM »
Jesus Christ!!!!................you guys are over-analyzing this!

  you see a girl you really like and she smiles at you..................hav e sum balls!/take a chance and go up to her and start a freaking conversation

you will know if the first 10 seconds if she is interested or not


lol............Women aren't Rocket Science
bingo.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #46 on: March 23, 2009, 05:05:06 PM »
bingo.

No "Bingo"  Mikey can never be right.

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #47 on: March 23, 2009, 06:39:52 PM »
sometimes it's the most blatent signals that get lost in translation

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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #48 on: March 24, 2009, 05:47:14 PM »
So far only maybe three people seem to ever read the actual original post. It was not asking about how to approach girls. It was asking women about their feeling on being approached in certain unorthodox situations. Obviously we meet each other mostly through friends, work, or in certain accepted environments like parties and bars. Not really interested in that side of it.

I don't know about other guy here but I do find myself getting suggestive and admiring glances on a daily basis from both sexes. I would not have the time to talk to all these ladies. I am just interest if these ladies do it just to flirtatious or if they actually want to be picked up on a bus?


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Re: Serious question for women - signal sending
« Reply #49 on: March 25, 2009, 06:26:13 AM »
I am just interest if these ladies do it just to flirtatious or if they actually want to be picked up on a bus?


Both are possible.  But it's also possible that certain smiles can be misinterpreted. 
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