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CNBC News - USA is now officially "Bankrupt" - Scary Stuff!
« on: March 19, 2009, 12:49:56 PM »
What the Pros Say: US Is Now 'Bankrupt'
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Sectors:Financial Services | BanksBy: CNBC.com | 19 Mar 2009 | 09:56 AM ET Text Size

Global stocks traded higher, as did the dollar against the euro, Thursday after the Federal Reserve's surprise announcement it would buy $300 billion in US Treasurys in order to help the ailing economy.

But experts tell CNBC they have concerns over the Fed's latest move and that the current national balance sheet is a disaster.

US is Already 'Bankrupt'

Technically, the U.S. is already "bankrupt" because it has a debt that is almost four times the size of its economy, says Puru Saxena, CEO of Puru Saxena Wealth Management. He tells CNBC that the U.S. is at risk of hyperinflation.

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Fed to Buy Treasurys is Not a Good Sign

Stephen Roach, chairman for Asia at Morgan Stanley does not view the Fed's plan to buy $300 billion worth of long-dated government debt as a constructive sign for prospects going forward.

Fed's Move Unlikely to Help Economy

The Fed pumping money into Treasurys won't help, says Martin Weiss, president of Weiss Research. He also discusses what can be done to turn the US economy around.

The US Stuck in Zero-Rate Mode?

America is arrogant to deny their similarity to Japan's economy, says Stephen Roach, chairman for Asia at Morgan Stanley. He tells CNBC that the US economy is in a "zero-interest rate" mode, like Japan.

Quantitative Easing & the Fed's Balance Sheet

Thomas Lam, vice president and senior treasury economist at UOB, says the Fed's latest moves such as to buy long-dated Treasurys will stretch its balance sheet and pump more liquidity into economy.

The Fed's Recent Moves are Right

"This decision to purchase long-term assets, mortgages, long-term treasury securities, is the right thing to do. The Fed would clearly rather err on the side of inflation rather then depression," said Dennis Gartman from the Gartman Letter. He also touches on the housing market in the US as well as the TALF.

Tackling US Economy

Housing problems need to be tackled before the U.S. economy can pick up, according to Adam Carr, senior economist at ICAP.

2010: 'Real Peak of the Crisis'

"We are going to see real problems in 2010 when the Fed and all the other governments which issued stimulus packages are going to try to reabsorb some of that liquidity," Nicu Harajchi, CEO & Founder of N1 Asset Management, said Thursday. He considers whether the Fed's latest move will work.

Fed's Actions Bode Well for Asia

The Fed's bold moves to support the U.S. economy is good news for Asia, believes Yuwa Hedrick-Wong, economic advisor at MasterCard Worldwide.

Redirecting China's Foreign Investments

China is unlikely to unload their dollar-denominated reserve as such a move will only hurt themselves at this point, says Yuwa Hedrick-Wong, economic advisor at MasterCard Worldwide. He tells CNBC how its foreign investment strategy may change.

 
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China Needs Internal Demand

China needs to change its structure to an internal demand driven economy, says Stephen Roach, chairman for Asia at Morgan Stanley. He tells CNBC that China is hugely dependent on external demand as a major source of economic growth.

ECB in "Splendid Isolation"

The ECB should be out there pumping money into the system, says Paul Donovan, MD & head of global economics at UBS. He tells CNBC that the central bank is sitting in "splendid isolation".

More Pain Ahead for Europe

There is no cause for optimism in the medium term, despite the better-than-expected data from the ZEW survey, says Par Magnusson, senior analyst at Danske Bank.

UK Due for Inflation Spike?

The UK economy is facing higher inflation down the road, Andy Hartwill from Quasar told CNBC, as Britain posted its highest ever budget deficit Thursday.

Deflation Will Hit Mid-Year

Deflation is a near-term risk that may hit global economies in the middle of the year, warns Paul Donovan, MD & head of global economics at UBS.

Preventing Runaway Inflation

When liquidity floodgates open, global central banks will have to sterilize very aggressively and in time to prevent runaway inflation. Yuwa Hedrick-Wong, economic advisor at MasterCard Worldwide tells CNBC how this can be resolved quickly.


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Re: CNBC News - USA is now officially "Bankrupt" - Scary Stuff!
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2009, 01:00:20 PM »
im pretty sure we were bankrupt many decades ago, nice fear mongering though. Must be a slow day

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« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2009, 01:02:40 PM »
im pretty sure we were bankrupt many decades ago, nice fear mongering though. Must be a slow day

Bernake declares we are spending another trillion yesterday on our own debt since no one will buy it and I am "fear mongering"????


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« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2009, 01:05:55 PM »
Bernake declares we are spending another trillion yesterday on our own debt since no one will buy it and I am "fear mongering"????



maybe i phrased it wrong, nice fear mongering by cnbc..

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« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2009, 01:25:08 PM »
maybe i phrased it wrong, nice fear mongering by cnbc..

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Dont you see how Obama employed phony outrage over the AIG bonuses as to give Bernake cover for what he did yesterday?

This is a classic set up and scam pulled by the ultimate circus ring leader Obama.

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« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2009, 01:50:51 PM »
Fear mongering my ass, this is very important to the strength and economic future of our nation.  We have never spent this much or been in this much debt.  This is serious.

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« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2009, 02:09:16 PM »
Dont you see how Obama employed phony outrage over the AIG bonuses as to give Bernake cover for what he did yesterday?

This is a classic set up and scam pulled by the ultimate circus ring leader Obama.

phony outrage?

your so fucking thick haded.

just because obama elevates the issue, it's phony?

the whoe fucking country is mad that these fukers are getting bonuses.
 


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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2009, 02:12:12 PM »
phony outrage?

your so fucking thick haded.

just because obama elevates the issue, it's phony?

the whoe fucking country is mad that these fukers are getting bonuses.
 



Its phony outrage by getting everyone to focus on a minor issue while ignoring the bigger issues.  He, Dodd, Bernake, and Geithner all knew this was cvoming and could have predicated future money on not giving out these bonuses.  They did not do that.

Instead, a story came out about how the money is going to foregin banks and counter-partners like goldman sachs and the huge news of Bernake printing a trillion in new money.

Obama is a master circus leader.  Only a blind person does not see what is going on here.

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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2009, 02:27:56 PM »
Its phony outrage by getting everyone to focus on a minor issue while ignoring the bigger issues.  He, Dodd, Bernake, and Geithner all knew this was cvoming and could have predicated future money on not giving out these bonuses.  They did not do that.

Instead, a story came out about how the money is going to foregin banks and counter-partners like goldman sachs and the huge news of Bernake printing a trillion in new money.

Obama is a master circus leader.  Only a blind person does not see what is going on here.

im pretty sure you and limbaugh are the only ones making this claim that obama is trying to cover up the story with this outrage over AIG bonuses....youre acting like obama gave a speech denouncing the bonuses during the same hour the news broke that bernanke was going print a shitload of money.

trust me. if you heard about what bernanke is doing on cnbc, then other people will hear about it It will be all over the forums, blogs and in financial news. You should uderstand it's not a cover story like the bailout of the banks and bnuses are.  take off the tinfoil  ;)

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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2009, 04:09:54 PM »
To his point, few have talked about the trillion dollars we just printed.  Both situations are horrible.  I give this administration a D- so far.

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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2009, 06:08:54 PM »
Yes- the big problem is 165 million in bonuses for AIG when both houses and the President knew about this crap already. Forget the trillions of dollars being wasted and the pork barrel projects in the stimulus bills. Forget about the impending inflation, forget about the total lack of confidence investors have in the financial system and our government. Talk about trying to hide behind an issue.  ::)

Problem is that the fake outrage over the 165 million is going to backfire. Obama and Geitner knew about this shit weeks ago and there was a provision for the bonuses in the stimulus legislation. Now suddenly this is an issue!!? Not to mention the fact there is zero chance this 90% tax will survive a constitutional challenge. I thought that since Obama was a Constitutional Law professor at Harvard he would know that.

Honestly this is what the score looks like to me- Republicans are corrupt and devious, Democrats are flat out incompetent while being equally corrupt. This contry has a very bright future ahead.