Author Topic: Any Religious People Here? (Read 22140 times)

lovemonkey · « **Reply #150 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:26:20 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 02:23:51 PM

The first problem is that your defenition of god is not clear.
Something controle us?
Yes. A lots of thing. If we say the physical phenomenon is god, it exists.
Ying and Yang phenomenon is God also. Our conciousness is also....etc.

They all controle us and tie us up.....Wooops I forgot. An ideology! It ties up also.

We can say that they are god.

There is no fvkin a bit difference with that spreme power you call.

Wow what I just wrote flew right over your head didn't it? Not to be mean, but please read it again.

kyomu · « **Reply #151 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Drama Queen on March 23, 2009, 02:25:18 PM

God exist ,end of the thread.

I will say him tomorrow that one getbiger calls him a god!!

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #152 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:26:42 PM »

Quote from: Drama Queen on March 23, 2009, 02:25:18 PM

God exist ,end of the thread.

Actually, your Spandex thread did more to prove God's existence than this pic. Just sayin'

kyomu · « **Reply #153 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:30:01 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 02:26:20 PM

Wow what I just wrote flew right over your head didn't it? Not to be mean, but please read it again.

Hahaha.
I am just teasing.

Cus you think being atheist is the way to be free.

Unfortunately, you are always controled even if that godamn god dont exist.

Its matter of the name. Its like Stanist believe in Satan and they are way different from christian. But just they change the name of Jesus into Satan. Thats it.

tommywishbone · « **Reply #154 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:31:49 PM »

Hail Satan!!

kyomu · « **Reply #155 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:35:08 PM »

Quote from: tommywishbone on March 23, 2009, 02:31:49 PM

Hail Satan!!

You are religious. Cus you believe in a god called Satan

lovemonkey · « **Reply #156 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:37:17 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 02:30:01 PM

Hahaha.
I am just teasing.

Cus you think being atheist is the way to be free.

Unfortunately, you are always controled even if that godamn god dont exist.

Its matter of the name. Its like Stanist believe in Satan and they are way different from christian. But just they change the name of Jesus into Satan. Thats it.

The term God is made up by humans in order to personify the natural order, don't you see that?

I never claimed to be "free". I'm free from organized religion yes but I'm always controlled by natural laws.

You mentioned ying and yang as well, I think you're just a hopeless case. Always trying to find supernatural explanations for everything when there really is no need for it.

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #157 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:38:45 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 02:35:08 PM

You are religious. Cus you believe in a god called Satan

Since it's based on belief....here is a religion for fat chicks...

Ebedding disabled by request, so here is the link :

NarcissisticDeity · « **Reply #158 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:39:39 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 01:36:06 PM

If you stick with or persist in one belief, you are religious(of course, it includes atheism...).

calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color

lovemonkey · « **Reply #159 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:41:41 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2009, 02:39:39 PM

calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color

Never heard that one before. Thanks.

kyomu · « **Reply #160 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:42:33 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 02:37:17 PM

The term God is made up by humans in order to personify the natural order, don't you see that?

I never claimed to be "free". I'm free from organized religion yes but I'm always controlled by natural laws.

You mentioned ying and yang as well, I think you're just a hopeless case. Always trying to find supernatural explanations for everything when there really is no need for it.

Hahahahahahh! Study before you talk!!!!!!!!!!!

Ying and Yang is nothing religious. Its a philosophy. The science of now a day has a lot of influence from taoism.

For example, You can explain computer as Ying and Yang =0 and 1. Music, Sound and no sound. Existance No exist and exist. Summer and winter....etc.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #161 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:49:29 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 02:42:33 PM

Hahahahahahh! Study before you talk!!!!!!!!!!!

Ying and Yang is nothing religious. Its a philosophy. The science of now a day has a lot of influence from taoism.

For example, You can explain computer as Ying and Yang =0 and 1. Music, Sound and no sound. Existance No exist and exist. Summer and winter....etc.

Oh well, I see your point. I agree ying yang is not necessarily something supernatural. But if it's not, why even bother with it?

kyomu · « **Reply #162 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:53:18 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 02:49:29 PM

Oh well, I see your point. I agree ying yang is not necessarily something supernatural. But if it's not, why even bother with it?

Yes. Agreed. It is a point of view. Even Taoism philosophy is saying that Ying and Yang concept is an ilusion.
So it exists and doesnt exists. No need to mention it and sometime we mention it for our convinience

So, sometime you can create your own god and sometime you dont believe in anything for your convinience.
Thats the real free way of living.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #163 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:57:33 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 02:53:18 PM

Yes. Agreed. It is a point of view. Even Taoism philosophy is saying that Ying and Yang concept is an ilusion.
So it exists and doesnt exists. No need to mention it and sometime we mention it for our convinience

So, sometime you can create your own god and sometime you dont believe in anything for your convinience.
Thats the real free way of living.

lol man the issue of gods existence isn't something I approach with "convenience" . I think it's a pretty important issue and if you set out to find out your own answer you usually learn a whole lot in the process about the universe and natural kingdom.

I didn't just decide one day that I do not believe in god out of convenience?

wavelength · « **Reply #164 on:** March 23, 2009, 02:59:26 PM »

I think it's more about what it means to believe in God.
It's not a decision of the thinking mind, that's just ideology.

kyomu · « **Reply #165 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:00:54 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 02:57:33 PM

lol man the issue of gods existence isn't something I approach with "convenience" . I think it's a pretty important issue and if you set out to find out your own answer you usually learn a whole lot in the process about the universe and natural kingdom.

I didn't just decide one day that I do not believe in god out of convenience?

Yes. Convinience.

Sometime I use the god of sintoism concept to achive a goal. Quite useful.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #166 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:02:24 PM »

Quote from: NarcissisticDeity on March 23, 2009, 02:39:39 PM

calling atheism a religion is like calling bald a hair color

I'd argue that atheists can be every bit as dogmatic and rabid in their beliefs as those who believe in some sort of God.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #167 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:03:40 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 03:00:54 PM

Yes. Convinience.

Sometime I use the god of sintoism concept to achive a goal. Quite useful.

Well that's your opinion and I don't agree. Nothing more I can add.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #168 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:05:31 PM »

Quote from: dr.chimps on March 23, 2009, 03:02:24 PM

I'd argue that atheists can be every bit as dogmatic and rabid in their beliefs as those who believe in some sort of God.

Only believing what can be proved is close to the exact opposite of dogma.

kyomu · « **Reply #169 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:06:27 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 03:03:40 PM

Well that's your opinion and I don't agree. Nothing more I can add.

Of course, you cant agree. Cus you dont know what the sintoism first of all.

Just remeber, there is a varios concept of god exist in the world. God is not always creator and controler like Bible says.

dr.chimps · « **Reply #170 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:06:48 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 03:05:31 PM

Only believing what can be proved is close to the exact opposite of dogma.

Pascal's wager?

kyomu · « **Reply #171 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:07:54 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 03:05:31 PM

Only believing what can be proved is close to the exact opposite of dogma.

Still you dont understand.

We havent prove ANYTHING in the history.

wavelength · « **Reply #172 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:08:23 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 03:05:31 PM

Only believing what can be proved is close to the exact opposite of dogma.

You can't prove anything.

lovemonkey · « **Reply #173 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:09:47 PM »

Quote from: kyomu on March 23, 2009, 03:06:27 PM

Of course, you cant agree. Cus you dont know what the sintoism first of all.

Just remeber, there is a varios concept of god exist in the world. God is not always creator and controler like Bible says.

Anything but that are just metaphors. God only becomes a word then and do not represent an entity.

kyomu · « **Reply #174 on:** March 23, 2009, 03:11:26 PM »

Quote from: lovemonkey on March 23, 2009, 03:09:47 PM

Anything but that are just metaphors. God only becomes a word then and do not represent an entity.

You are in the western christian world. Thats why you know only one concept like Jesus or Yejobah.
Asian religious concept is quite opposite from you guys.