can you tell 1 powder from another ?

[Fatpanda]

just got an order of powders from china - test, anadrol, nolva and aromasin.

to get it through customs they havn't market the packets - how can i tell which is which 

[shrek]

just got an order of powders from china - test, anadrol, nolva and aromasin.

to get it through customs they havn't market the packets - how can i tell which is which 

contact your source there has gotta to be a way to tell the difference

[LurkerNoMore]

To a certain extent.

Test E and Deca will have a semi hard waxy texture to it after sitting at room temp for a couple days.  It will resemble off white Play-Do that has baby oil rubbed on it.  And will stick to the bag.

Test C will be a bit more fluffy like flour.  It can form little balls and then crumble easily.

Test P is very very fine and shiny, almost like very tiny sugar crystals.

Nolva, cialis, viagra, clomid will all be loose powder like baking soda and just pour out of the bag.  It never hardens or clumps together.  (Unless humidity or dampness gets in the bag.)

[tbombz]

i gave you the answer

hormone melting point test



however a "moderator" deleted for some reaosn

[Fatpanda]

To a certain extent.

Test E and Deca will have a semi hard waxy texture to it after sitting at room temp for a couple days.  It will resemble off white Play-Do that has baby oil rubbed on it.  And will stick to the bag.

Test C will be a bit more fluffy like flour.  It can form little balls and then crumble easily.

Test P is very very fine and shiny, almost like very tiny sugar crystals.

Nolva, cialis, viagra, clomid will all be loose powder like baking soda and just pour out of the bag.  It never hardens or clumps together.  (Unless humidity or dampness gets in the bag.)

thanks lurker - each bag is vacum seeled but i can feel the powder clumping in one - test e i take it 

i have the boiling points for test, so i guess i would have figured it out when i prepared it, but didn't want to waste any 

i will do a simple olive oil suspension for the nolva + adrol.

thanks for the replies.

[abc123]

thanks lurker - each bag is vacum seeled but i can feel the powder clumping in one - test e i take it 

i have the boiling points for test, so i guess i would have figured it out when i prepared it, but didn't want to waste any 

i will do a simple olive oil suspension for the nolva + adrol.

thanks for the replies.

You don't have to use much - less than a gram.  Just put it in something on a hotplate and heat it slowly.  As it starts to melt insert the tip of your digital thermometor and you will get a very close melting point estimate.  Don't go by oven temp guages or other means.

[Captain Equipoise]

just got an order of powders from china - test, anadrol, nolva and aromasin.

to get it through customs they havn't market the packets - how can i tell which is which 

Dude are you fucked?!?! you're like 400 lbs. and obese, the absolute last thing you should be touching is test and anadrol... ??!

[LurkerNoMore]

thanks lurker - each bag is vacum seeled but i can feel the powder clumping in one - test e i take it 

i have the boiling points for test, so i guess i would have figured it out when i prepared it, but didn't want to waste any 

i will do a simple olive oil suspension for the nolva + adrol.

thanks for the replies.

As suggested the melting point test is the most accurate method, however at room temp, your Test E shouldn't be clumping.  It (and deca) should have a firm solid feel to it.  Like a lump of clay that has oil on the outside.    Test C is clumpy, you can press it into balls and such but it falls aparts easily.  You squeeze test E into a ball and it will stay in the exact shape.  If you touch it or push it, it will just roll.

Now it must also be said that the purity of the raws is a contributing factor.  98% purity is going to look and resemble something completely different than the same product at 95% purity and cut with something.

Another note, you will find that unless you are going for low low strength of mg to ml ratio with the anadrol  (say around 5mg-10mg) you are going to need some kind of solvent in the mix in order to keep the powder dissolved and suspended.  PEG300 or PEG400 (depending on the weight of the molecule you are suspending) and a touch (or a lot) of alcohol.  Otherwise it is going to crash and fall out of the solution to the bottom of the vial.  So you can go the everclear route - which is the easiest and the route most people do but I hate as I don't like the taste and I don't like taking it spread out through the day and having my breath smell like liquor at work or you can go with the syrup type suspension method that you can flavor and use less solvent/alcohol, but that is another long and detailed method that I am too lazy to bother typing.

[Fatpanda]

You don't have to use much - less than a gram.  Just put it in something on a hotplate and heat it slowly.  As it starts to melt insert the tip of your digital thermometor and you will get a very close melting point estimate.  Don't go by oven temp guages or other means.

thats more than doable 

Dude are you fucked?!?! you're like 400 lbs. and obese, the absolute last thing you should be touching is test and anadrol... ??!

you must have me mistaken for someone else, i'm 260 and not obese 

i have noticed you have developed some sort of hardon for me as of late though.

please keep it on the g&o.

[Captain Equipoise]

You're right dude, you're a svelte and fit 260..... as shown by the pic of you posted all over G & O

oh and the only hardon I have is for my fiancee and selective stripper's but thanks for trying, in all seriousness though, you might want to go on serious diet coupled with ECA and clen, t3/t4 , test and anadrol is the absolute last thing you should even be considering.

[Fatpanda]

you have x-ray vision ?

[Captain Equipoise]

you have x-ray vision ?

Dude, are you fucking joking !?? you look like a round ball in that picture, I'm not even dissing the fact that you'r;e fat but for fuck's sake it's in plain view in the pic, at least don't deny it.l

[shrek]

Dude, are you fucking joking !?? you look like a round ball in that picture, I'm not even dissing the fact that you'r;e fat but for fuck's sake it's in plain view in the pic, at least don't deny it.l

im not takeing up for him but if u look close he isnt as wide as we think he is its the chair behind jim is the exact color as his blazer u can see a slight color difference

[tbombz]

even if fatpanda was obese, test and anadrol would be just fine.

[Captain Equipoise]

even if fatpanda was obese, test and anadrol would be just fine.

Like I always tell you dude, get some REAL world knowledge of anabolics and cycles before you spout your theoretical bullshit, theory doesn't always produce the same results as real world examples. Just like Test is NOT just Test, there's a reason there are different esters, if you honestly think you will look identically the same from suspension as you will from prop then you are truly retarded.

[tbombz]

Like I always tell you dude, get some REAL world knowledge of anabolics and cycles before you spout your theoretical bullshit, theory doesn't always produce the same results as real world examples. Just like Test is NOT just Test, there's a reason there are different esters, if you honestly think you will look identically the same from suspension as you will from prop then you are truly retarded.

whats theoretical? why wouldnt a fat guy take test and anadrol? theres no reason why fatpanda, if he was obese, should stay away from those two steroids.  only if he had said "i dont want any water retention during this cycle" would it make sense to say, dude your fat and these will cause enormous water retention"....

[io856]

maybe its got something to do with aromatase?

[tbombz]

maybe its got something to do with aromatase?

sure a fat dude will get more aromatase action than a lean dude. but that would be positive thing, not a negative thing. estrogen is a wonderful hormone.

[io856]

sure a fat dude will get more aromatase action than a lean dude. but that would be positive thing, not a negative thing. estrogen is a wonderful hormone.

Yes Dan Duchaine said in his day some powerlifters used to inject estrogen   

[tbombz]

Yes Dan Duchaine said in his day some powerlifters used to inject estrogen   

the same thing is done in cattle. i dont see a need to inject extra estrogen, just put more test and then you get more estrogen. in cattle they put estrogen with tren, since tren doesnt convert into estrogen.

[clued-up]

estrogen is a wonderful hormone.

hate to say.. I've never studied much on estrogen.. why is it so great? I know you read about everything  .. so let me use you.

[tbombz]

hate to say.. I've never studied much on estrogen.. why is it so great? I know you read about everything  .. so let me use you.

im tired so im not going deep into it right now. its midnight in cali and ive got schhol in the morning.

-estrogen is anabolic, it may increase the number of androgen receptors, it may have a dose dependant effect on gh[igf1(MGF)]  levels, it improves glucose metabolism, it retains water....etc etc

[dustin]

hate to say.. I've never studied much on estrogen.. why is it so great? I know you read about everything  .. so let me use you.

It's been demonized because of the misconceptions floating around the boards and in local steroid circles. Taylor elaborated on it a little. Ask any cattle rancher what one drug he'd pick for bulkin' up his bitches if he had to choose, and it will be ESTROGEN.

Like everything else, it has it's downsides. When people think about estrogen they think about bloat and gyno... all of us do. It's just another part of the bigger picture. More people need to understand it's role before they run to their source, order letro and bang back mgs of that shit with the intent on eradicating it. "HELLO TURTLE DICK!!! Let me introduce you to cock-starved and PISSED OFF girlfriend!!!!!!!!!!11!!1!one!1"

[Fatpanda]

im not takeing up for him but if u look close he isnt as wide as we think he is its the chair behind jim is the exact color as his blazer u can see a slight color difference

yes, i find the obsession with my almost 3 years old picture ( with 2 torn rotators, and not worked out properly for around a year  in it ) quite amusing.

what i was wearing was a shirt, waistcoat and overcoat - that if anyone here has ever worn an argyle coat with a kilt, will know its loose, while the waistcoat is tight.

it seems there are only 'certain' members on this site that obsesse over it  i own a few minds it seems.

Also as candy and dustin pointed out there is no reason for even an obese guy not to take test or adrol - apart from aromatase issues that can be dealt with easily, many studies have used test on obese folks for a range of things with no problems.

the 'captain' is either very poorly informed or has 'issues' with me. 

[Captain Equipoise]

The Captain doesn't care anymore dude, honestly I was just trying to be a nice guy in saving you 30lb. unnecessary lbs. of water bloat that will make your face look like a basketball, but to each their own , good luck on your cycle. Keep us updated.

I based this on experience, I have a few chunky friends about your size with an extra 30-40lbs. of fat that tried to run trest and dbols, they both regretted it after because they just looked fatter and more bloated then before, even though they built some muscle it was still underneath layers upon layers of fat, and thus invisible.

I'm out, peace.