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To 333386, With Love
« on: March 24, 2009, 10:42:41 AM »
I know life long Democrat Warren Buffett has gone from a "moron" who knows nothing about business, to one of your heroes in the course of one week. Therefore, I thought I'd drop a little gem on ya'. Love you!  :-*

Billionaire Warren Buffett still backs Obama
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The Oracle of Omaha is still for Obama. So the president claimed on 60 Minutes, interrupting interviewer Steve Kroft to tout the continued support of Warren Buffett, the Omaha-based stock-picker extraordinaire.

"Your plan really for solving the banking crisis was met with very, very, very tepid response," Kroft said to Obama. "A lot of people said they didn't understand it. A lot of people said it didn't have any, enough details to solve the problem. I know you're coming out with something next week on this. But these criticisms were coming from people like Warren Buffett, people who had supported you, and you had counted as being your..."

"And Warren still does support me," Obama interjected. "But I think that, understand, Warren's also a big player in the financial markets who's a major owner of Wells Fargo. And so he's got a perspective from the perspective of somebody who is part owner of a bank."

Indeed Buffett, who endorsed Obama during the campaign, did explicitly say during a three-hour interview March 9 with CNBC that he still supports Obama.

"I voted for Obama and I strongly support him, and I think he's the right guy," Buffett said early in the interview.

Buffett did criticize Obama's handling of the banking crisis, saying that "a bank that's going to go broke should be allowed to go broke," as long as the depositors are protected. (Obama's approach has leaned toward giving the banks more bailout money in some form rather than letting them fail and having the government take them over.)

But Buffett's primary concern was that Obama wasn't communicating clearly with the public about struggling banks. "The right answer for me (to the banking crisis) is the president to clarify things as only he can, because you have heard so many different things," he said. "He is the commander in chief on this, and it has to be clarified...because if people aren't clear, they're going to be confused. And if they're going to be confused, they are going to be scared stiff. And that has to end."

It's not surprising Buffett would want Obama to focus on the financial crisis -- it has cost Buffett $25 billion. That's how much of his $62 billion fortune he lost in the past year, as shares of his holding company Berkshire Hathaway fell nearly 50 percent, Forbes reports. That knocked Buffett off his perch as the world's richest man, to No. 2 behind Bill Gates.

Toward the end of the three-hour interview, Buffett reiterated his support for Obama. "He is the right president," Buffett said. "He's very, very smart. He's got, I think, exactly the right goals. He's articulate and I -- you know, he will be the right person to be the commander in chief in this economic crisis."

So clearly Obama was on solid ground touting Buffett's continued support. We find this claim to be True.


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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 10:51:08 AM »
Again, I am talking about issues specifically.

Go listen to the Buffet CNBC interview.  He comes out against policies Obama is pursuing one by one. 

Cap & Trade
Card Check
Endless Deficits

Etc etc.

Buffet clearly says that Cap & Trade is a "regressive tax".


 http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kerry-picket/2008/11/02/obama-energy-prices-will-skyrocket

Obama himself admits our electric bills will "skyrocket".

 

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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 10:55:39 AM »
Again, I am talking about issues specifically.

Go listen to the Buffet CNBC interview.  He comes out against policies Obama is pursuing one by one. 

Cap & Trade
Card Check
Endless Deficits

Etc etc.

Buffet clearly says that Cap & Trade is a "regressive tax".


 http://newsbusters.org/blogs/kerry-picket/2008/11/02/obama-energy-prices-will-skyrocket

Obama himself admits our electric bills will "skyrocket".

 
No thanks, I already saw your new found hero AND LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT Warren Buffett when the interview first aired. ;) I rarely miss a Buffett interview anywhere particularly the many done on CNBC over the years.

Don't forget!
Buffett reiterated his support for Obama. "He is the right president," Buffett said. "He's very, very smart. He's got, I think, exactly the right goals. He's articulate and I -- you know, he will be the right person to be the commander in chief in this economic crisis."
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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 10:57:38 AM »
No thanks, I already saw your new found hero AND LIFE LONG DEMOCRAT Warren Buffett when the interview first aired. ;) I rarely miss a Buffett interview anywhere particularly the many done on CNBC over the years.

Don't forget!
Buffett reiterated his support for Obama. "He is the right president," Buffett said. "He's very, very smart. He's got, I think, exactly the right goals. He's articulate and I -- you know, he will be the right person to be the commander in chief in this economic crisis."

Fine, lets talk issues:

Card Check & Cap & Trade to start.

Buffet disagrees with these. 

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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2010, 08:40:03 AM »
Warren Buffett: "We're still in a recession"
Reuters/YahooNews ^ | 9/23/10 | Jonathan Stempel



Billionaire investor Warren Buffett said the U.S. economy remains in recession, disputing this week's assessment by a leading arbiter of economic activity that the downturn ended more than a year ago.

"We're still in a recession," Buffett told CNBC television in an interview broadcast on Thursday. "We're not gonna be out of it for a while, but we will get out."

On Monday, the National Bureau of Economic Research said the world's largest economy ended an 18-month recession in June 2009, but cautioned that its assessment did not mean normal activity had resumed.


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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2010, 08:43:36 AM »
Sounds like Warren is loosing it, He is the right man for the job, but his policies suck, makes a lot of sense ::)
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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2010, 08:45:46 AM »
Sounds like Warren is loosing it, He is the right man for the job, but his policies suck, makes a lot of sense ::)

Where is Benny now? 

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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2010, 09:04:47 AM »
Buffet is another scared white man fearful to say Obama sucks because he will be labeled a racist.

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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2010, 09:31:23 AM »
Why do people think that because a wealthy man says so it must be true? The wealthy are not infallible. They make mistakes. They are human. Warren is wrong to believe Obama is the man for the job and he is wrong for having faith in him.

Is Warren an incredibly intelligent man? He is. I wish I was as intelligent as him and as rich as him. But, he is HUMAN and no human is perfect and correct all the time.

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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2010, 09:36:27 AM »
WWTTFF - is Rush taking every post of mine for his show? 

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« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2010, 09:40:17 AM »
Warren Buffett has been extolled as one of history's greatest investors and the returns enjoyed by Berkshire Hathaway (NYSE: BRK-A, BRK-B) certainly support the notion that the “Oracle of Omaha” is a well-deserved moniker for Buffett. The average annual return for Berkshire Hathaway shares has been something in the neighborhood of 21% for over 50 years. That's an absolutely staggering performance that would make any hedge fund manager blush. Not to mention, that's more than double the typical return offered by the S&P 500 over the same time.


 Overall, Buffett's ability to spot great stocks trading at deeply discounted prices has allowed him to produce some pretty gaudy returns for investors, but he is by no means infallible. The stock market can be a humbling adventure, a fact Buffett has been reminded of on multiple occasions. Some of Buffett's blunders have been widely known about and reported on for years while others are more recent and could be up for debate. Let's have a look at some of the investments that Buffett and Berkshire shareholders would like to forget.

Dexter Shoes Goes Off the Deep End
At the time, Buffett's investment in Dexter Shoes looked like it made a lot of sense. This is exactly the type of stodgy, prosaic business that Buffett had invested in numerous times before to help Berkshire turn many a tidy a profit. Think along the lines of Berkshire's ownership of Cort Furniture Rental, Dairy Queen and See's Candies. Not sexy businesses, but you know what you're getting as an investor.

Or do you? In 1993, Berkshire paid $433 million to acquire Maine-based Dexter. Within a few years, by Buffett's own admission, the competitive advantage he had originally seen with Dexter was nearly invisible. Making the mistake all the more painful was the fact that Dexter wasn't acquired for cash, but instead was purchased with Berkshire stock. The final tab on this mistake? A $3.5 billion loss. Even Buffett himself has called the misstep the worst deal he's ever made.

Buy Low, Sell High? Try The Other Way Around
Berkshire started accumulating a position in ConocoPhillips (NYSE: COP), the third-largest U.S. oil company, in 2008. It's too bad that Berkshire was buying shares of ConocoPhillips right before oil futures hit their all-time around $147 a barrel AND right before the onset of the global financial crisis.

The financial crisis led to the bursting of the commodities bubble, which sent oil prices tumbling in a big way. Obviously, that's bad news for a company like Conoco, which explores for and sells oil, as well as shareholders of oil companies, no matter who they are. Berkshire continued to add to its Conoco stake in 2009, perhaps as a dollar-cost averaging move, but that may not be enough to result in a profitable investment.

It goes to show that even the Oracle of Omaha can be lured into bad market timing. Oil prices were high, but if Buffett could truly see the future, he would've known that the oil bull market was coming to an end. Lately Buffett seems to have grown tired of his Conoco investment; second-quarter 13F filings show Berkshire has been trimming its position in the oil producer.

Friends With Bill Gates, But Nary A Tech Investment
One reason average investors worship Buffett so much is his folksy Midwestern charm. That demeanor even applies to his investing style: He never invests in a business that he doesn't understand. So despite his chummy relationship with Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) founder Bill Gates (the two play cards together and Buffett has donated beaucoups to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation), Buffett has never been a big fan of investing in the tech sector.

Buffett attributes this to the complexity of the business. As such, Berkshire never profited from the Nasdaq's incredible run during the late 1990s. Some would say Buffett's reluctance on tech was proven correct when the Nasdaq crashed, but it is worth noting that from the ashes of tech's early 21st century collapse emerged a new leadership of tech companies that provided shareholders with amazing returns, namely Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) and Google (Nasdaq: GOOG). Buffett never invested in either.

Honorable Mention Mistakes:
1) Never swapping out of Coca-Cola (NYSE: KO) for PepsiCo (NYSE: PEP). Berkshire has long been one of Coke's largest shareholders, but take a look at a chart that measures the two cola rivals' performance against each other from 1977 through today, a very Buffett-like time horizon. Pepsi looks like it's on its way to leaving Coke in the dust.

2) Maintaining significant positions in financial stocks like American Express (NYSE: AXP), M&T Bank (NYSE: MTB), US Bancorp (NYSE: USB) and Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC) while the sector was collapsing and bank dividends were being slashed in 2008-2009.

3) Buffett's 1989 investment in US Airways (NYSE: LCC) investment was completely ill-conceived. Even at their best, airlines are capital-intensive businesses that frequently deal with copious amounts of debt, and in 1989, the U.S. economy was just starting to slip into a recession. However, Buffett got lucky and was able to dump the shares and turn a profit.

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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2010, 11:48:03 AM »
Buffet (or anyone) does not have to agree with every issue of the POTUS or their party in order to support the person/party.

his a matter of choices and alternatives.

I certainly don't agree with everything Obama does but that's not going to make me run out and vote for a Republican or even worse a teabagger

the world is not black and white - although I know some of our more simple minded citizens and politicians can't see the world in any other way

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Re: To 333386, With Love
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2010, 03:33:07 PM »
Buffet (or anyone) does not have to agree with every issue of the POTUS or their party in order to support the person/party.

his a matter of choices and alternatives.

I certainly don't agree with everything Obama does but that's not going to make me run out and vote for a Republican or even worse a teabagger

the world is not black and white - although I know some of our more simple minded citizens and politicians can't see the world in any other way



QFT!!!

If I hadn't see your name beside it, ...I'd have sworn I wrote that post myself.
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« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2010, 03:35:50 PM »
Buffet (or anyone) does not have to agree with every issue of the POTUS or their party in order to support the person/party.

his a matter of choices and alternatives.

I certainly don't agree with everything Obama does but that's not going to make me run out and vote for a Republican or even worse a teabagger

the world is not black and white - although I know some of our more simple minded citizens and politicians can't see the world in any other way


good, just stay home in november.