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I don't understand this...
« on: March 24, 2009, 02:40:36 PM »
Are Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush and Obama on the same team?  What's the goal here? 

They want to destroy our country?
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« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2009, 02:56:14 PM »
Like 240's said in the past...

The corporations run things, and causing a depression isn't good for business. 

So what's really behind what's happening with the economy?  ???
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« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2009, 06:08:46 PM »
Like 240's said in the past...

The corporations run things, and causing a depression isn't good for business. 

So what's really behind what's happening with the economy?  ???


it's probably something you did
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« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2009, 10:12:04 PM »
Like 240's said in the past...

The corporations run things, and causing a depression isn't good for business. 

So what's really behind what's happening with the economy?  ???
seems to me the corporate ceo's, for the most part, walk away with huge bucks no matter what happens.  bad business didn't translate for most of them.  They'll go on to start new companies or lead others under a one world system.  For some of these guys, causing a depression and getting a desired outcome could be seen more as an investment.  There is a long long history of the elite banking families working toward a one world harmonized system controlled by them and some pretty egregious tactics used to advance that.  I doubt a depression is something that concerns them much.

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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2009, 10:24:40 PM »
seems to me the corporate ceo's, for the most part, walk away with huge bucks no matter what happens.  bad business didn't translate for most of them.  They'll go on to start new companies or lead others under a one world system.  For some of these guys, causing a depression and getting a desired outcome could be seen more as an investment.  There is a long long history of the elite banking families working toward a one world harmonized system controlled by them and some pretty egregious tactics used to advance that.  I doubt a depression is something that concerns them much.

Oh  :(

Thank you for the info Hugo!
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2009, 11:29:31 PM »
i think it just got a little outta control.

the speculators did that oil run a year back, and they got greedy.  our adversaries - chi and rus - saw a window to bring down the power of the dollar, and therefore us supremacy and invincibility, and they took it. 

I disagree with hugo a bit - I think a lot of rich guys in the USA are having a very hard time as well.  Surely if Buffet can lose this much money, the Romneys and G HW Bushes of the country are also.  I don't think anybody in the usa "wants" this.  I think we all know you start a war, or print money, to stim economy.  Bush tried one, obama is trying the other.  You can also lead in production or innovation, but our public school system hasn't pushed thru a winner since Bill Gates...

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 12:37:21 AM »
i think it just got a little outta control.

the speculators did that oil run a year back, and they got greedy.  our adversaries - chi and rus - saw a window to bring down the power of the dollar, and therefore us supremacy and invincibility, and they took it. 

I disagree with hugo a bit - I think a lot of rich guys in the USA are having a very hard time as well.  Surely if Buffet can lose this much money, the Romneys and G HW Bushes of the country are also.  I don't think anybody in the usa "wants" this.  I think we all know you start a war, or print money, to stim economy.  Bush tried one, obama is trying the other.  You can also lead in production or innovation, but our public school system hasn't pushed thru a winner since Bill Gates...
If we're talking about all the ceo's your right.  If we're talking about the elite group with a one world agenda, I think I'm right.  those guys are not going to give a crap about the damage left in their wake.

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 01:50:04 AM »
"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."--Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."

Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966,) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, highly esteemed by his former student, William Jefferson Blythe Clinton.

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."--Strobe Talbot, President Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, as quoted in Time

"We shall have world government whether or not you like it, by conquest or consent."--Statement by Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) member James Warburg to The Senate Foreign Relations Committee on February 17th, 1950

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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 03:38:49 AM »
seems to me the corporate ceo's, for the most part, walk away with huge bucks no matter what happens.  bad business didn't translate for most of them.  They'll go on to start new companies or lead others under a one world system.  For some of these guys, causing a depression and getting a desired outcome could be seen more as an investment.  There is a long long history of the elite banking families working toward a one world harmonized system controlled by them and some pretty egregious tactics used to advance that.  I doubt a depression is something that concerns them much.

Rockefeller didn't suffer during the Great Depression... ;)
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 08:04:28 AM »
rupert murdoch lost 57% of this net worth last year.

If a guy like this was able to lose 3 billion last year, it makes you think shit got out of control.  he was key in bush getting his way on most things, a real repub supporter.  And yet he lost half of his shirt last year.

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« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 08:07:33 AM »
I agree 240, there have been reports of many wealthy people loosing sigificant proportions of their wealth.  Almost everyone invested in the stock market has been devistated.
There are less billionaires now than 1 year ago.

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« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 08:14:16 AM »
I agree 240, there have been reports of many wealthy people loosing sigificant proportions of their wealth.  Almost everyone invested in the stock market has been devistated.
There are less billionaires now than 1 year ago.

I am in tears. :'(
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 09:46:25 AM »
The guys who plot this kind of crap are among the richest in the world.  They’re not going to give a rats ass about losing some of that.  This one world system has been so deeply engrained in their psyche, they would gladly pay those amounts if it meant their goals would come to fruition.  Thinking that these guys have some sort of morality that translates to them giving a shit about the damage done to others is almost hilarious.   And their banks are getting bailed out so what are they losing?  Nothing compared to what they’ll gain with their stupid financial One Ring to rule them all… 

I mentioned your typical ceo not because I think they're all in on it.  I'm sure not.  But just look at the average CEO.  Even if their company goes under violently, they usually walk with mega cash.  How many times have we seen that time and time again.  Now imagine the movers and shakers of a one world government/banking system.  I'm pretty sure they maneuvered themselves just fine despite the picture we're given.

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« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2009, 09:51:15 AM »
The guys who plot this kind of crap are among the richest in the world.  They’re not going to give a rats ass about losing some of that.  This one world system has been so deeply engrained in their psyche, they would gladly pay those amounts if it meant their goals would come to fruition.  Thinking that these guys have some sort of morality that translates to them giving a shit about the damage done to others is almost hilarious.   And their banks are getting bailed out so what are they losing?  Nothing compared to what they’ll gain with their stupid financial One Ring to rule them all… 

I mentioned your typical ceo not because I think they're all in on it.  I'm sure not.  But just look at the average CEO.  Even if their company goes under violently, they usually walk with mega cash.  How many times have we seen that time and time again.  Now imagine the movers and shakers of a one world government/banking system.  I'm pretty sure they maneuvered themselves just fine despite the picture we're given.

Hugo's on to something here   8)


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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2009, 09:54:47 AM »
The guys who plot this kind of crap are among the richest in the world.  They’re not going to give a rats ass about losing some of that.  This one world system has been so deeply engrained in their psyche, they would gladly pay those amounts if it meant their goals would come to fruition.  Thinking that these guys have some sort of morality that translates to them giving a shit about the damage done to others is almost hilarious.   And their banks are getting bailed out so what are they losing?  Nothing compared to what they’ll gain with their stupid financial One Ring to rule them all… 

I mentioned your typical ceo not because I think they're all in on it.  I'm sure not.  But just look at the average CEO.  Even if their company goes under violently, they usually walk with mega cash.  How many times have we seen that time and time again.  Now imagine the movers and shakers of a one world government/banking system.  I'm pretty sure they maneuvered themselves just fine despite the picture we're given.

Bad things are definately afoot.

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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2009, 11:58:54 AM »
Are Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush and Obama on the same team?  What's the goal here? 

They want to destroy our country?

your presidents r picked wayy in advance....your vote means shit...i dont vote...

been saying this for yrs now
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« Reply #16 on: September 15, 2009, 02:57:54 PM »
seems to me the corporate ceo's, for the most part, walk away with huge bucks no matter what happens.  bad business didn't translate for most of them.  They'll go on to start new companies or lead others under a one world system.  For some of these guys, causing a depression and getting a desired outcome could be seen more as an investment.  There is a long long history of the elite banking families working toward a one world harmonized system controlled by them and some pretty egregious tactics used to advance that.  I doubt a depression is something that concerns them much.
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« Reply #17 on: September 15, 2009, 03:08:44 PM »
seems to me the corporate ceo's, for the most part, walk away with huge bucks no matter what happens.  bad business didn't translate for most of them.  They'll go on to start new companies or lead others under a one world system.  For some of these guys, causing a depression and getting a desired outcome could be seen more as an investment.  There is a long long history of the elite banking families working toward a one world harmonized system controlled by them and some pretty egregious tactics used to advance that.  I doubt a depression is something that concerns them much.

I see.  So some unnamed "elite banking families" are the planners of a grand conspiracy, and they are using unspecified "pretty egregious tactics" to carry out this conspiracy.  Is that it? 

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http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14700

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Soros: Republic Enemy #1

 By Jim O'Neill  Tuesday, September 15, 2009
“The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.”—George Soros

“George Soros is an evil man. He’s anti-God, anti-family, anti-American, and
anti-good.” —Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson

Is it possible to lay the global financial meltdown,  the radicalizing of the Democratic Party, and America’s moral decline, at the feet of one man?

It is indeed possible.

If George Soros isn’t the world’s preeminent “malignant messianic narcissist,” he’ll do until the real thing comes along.  Move over, Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot.  There’s a new kid on the block.

What we have in Soros, is a multi-billionaire atheist, with skewed moral values, and a sociopath’s lack of conscience.  He considers himself to be a world class philosopher, despises capitalism, and just loves social engineering.

Uh oh.  Can you say “trouble,” boys and girls?

Soros is a real life version of Dr. Evil—with Obama in the role of Mini-Me.  Which is not as humorous as it might at first sound.  In fact, it’s bone-deep chilling.

György Schwartz, better known to the world as George Soros, was born August 12, 1930 in Hungary.  Soros’ father, Tivadar, was a fervent practitioner of Esperanto—a language invented in 1887, and designed to be the first global language, free of any national identity.

The Schwartz’s, who were non-practicing Jews, changed the family name to Soros, in order to facilitate assimilation into the gentile population, as the Nazis spread into Hungary during the 1930s.  Soros is an Esperanto word meaning “to soar.”

In 1944 Hitler’s henchman Adolf Eichmann arrived in Hungary, to oversee the murder of that country’s Jews.  The Soros children were all given fake identity papers, and were shipped out to various Christian families.  George Soros ended up with a man whose job was confiscating property from the Jewish population.  Soros went with him on his rounds.

Soros has repeatedly called 1944 “the best year of his life.”

In an article in the Wall Street Journal, Joshua Muravchik notes that, “70% of Mr. Soros’s fellow Jews in Hungary, nearly a half-million human beings, were annihilated in that year. They were dying and disappearing all around him, and their numbers no doubt included many whom he knew personally. Yet he gives no sign that this put any damper on his elation, either at the time or indeed in retrospect.”

During an interview with “Sixty Minute’s” Steve Kroft, Soros was asked about his “best year:”

Sweetness & Light

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who   
swore that you were his adopted godson.

SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

SOROS: Yes. That’s right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the
psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

SOROS: Not, not at all.  Not at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

SOROS: No.

Of course he didn’t feel guilty.  Soros has the moral depth of a clam.  Nonetheless, he has said, “my goal is to become the conscience of the world.”

In his article, Muravchik describes how Soros has admitted to having “carried some rather potent messianic fantasies with me from childhood, which I felt I had to control, otherwise they might get me in trouble.”

Can you imagine the results of this messianic sociopath being “the conscience of the world?”  Ye gods.

Be that as it may.  After WWII, Soros attended the London School of Economics, where he fell under the thrall of fellow atheist and Hungarian, Karl Popper, one of his professors.  Popper was a mentor to Soros until Popper’s death in 1994.  Two of Popper’s most influential teachings concerned “the open society,” and Fallibilism.

Fallibilism is the philosophical doctrine that all claims of knowledge could, in principle, be mistaken.  Then again, I could be wrong about that.

The “open society” basically refers to a “test and evaluate” approach to social engineering.  Regarding “open society” Roy Childs writes, “Since the Second World War, most of the Western democracies have followed Popper’s advice about piecemeal social engineering and democratic social reform, and it has gotten them into a grand mess.


In 1956 Soros moved to New York City, where he worked on Wall Street, and started amassing his fortune.  He specialized in hedge funds and currency speculation.

Soros is absolutely ruthless, amoral, and clever in his business dealings, and quickly made his fortune.  By the 1980s he was well on his way to becoming the global powerhouse that he is today.

In an article Kyle-Anne Shiver wrote for “The American Thinker” she says, “Soros made his first billion in 1992 by shorting the British pound with leveraged billions in financial bets, and became known as the man who broke the Bank of England.  He broke it on the backs of hard-working British citizens who immediately saw their homes severely devalued and their life savings cut drastically…almost overnight.”

In 1994 Soros crowed in “The New Republic” that “the former Soviet Empire is now called the Soros Empire.”  The Russia-gate scandal in 1999, which almost collapsed the Russian economy, was labeled by Rep. Jim Leach, then head of the House Banking Committee, to be “one of the greatest social robberies in human history.”  The “Soros Empire” indeed.

In 1997 Soros almost destroyed the economies of Thailand and Malaysia.  At the time, Malaysia’s Prime Minister, Mahathir Mohamad, called Soros “a villain, and a moron.”  Thai activist Weng Tojirakarn said, “We regard George Soros as a kind of Dracula. He sucks the blood from the people.” (Source)

The website Greek national Pride reports, “[Soros] was part of the full court press that dismantled Yugoslavia and caused trouble in Georgia, Ukraine and Myanmar [Burma].  Calling himself a philanthropist, Soros’ role is to tighten the ideological stranglehold of globalization and the New World Order while promoting his own financial gain.  He is without conscience; a capitalist who functions with absolute amorality.”

France has upheld an earlier conviction against Soros, for felony insider trading.  Soros was fined 2.9 million dollars. (Source)

Recently, his native Hungary fined Soros 2.2 million dollars for “illegal market manipulation.”  Elizabeth Crum writes that “The Hungarian economy has been in a state of transition as the country seeks to become more financially stable and westernized.  [Soros’] deliberately driving down the share price of its largest bank put Hungary’s economy into a wicked tailspin, one from which it is still trying to recover.” (Source)

Soros’ grasp, greed, gluttony have a global reach

My point here is that Soros is a planetary parasite.  His grasp, greed, and gluttony have a global reach.
But what about America?  Soros told Australia’s national newspaper “The Australian” “America, as the centre of the globalised financial markets, was sucking up the savings of the world.  This is now over. The game is out,” he said, adding that the time has come for “a very serious adjustment” in American’s consumption habits.

Ready to tighten your belts, America?

World financial crisis was”stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

Soros also told “The Australian” that the world financial crisis was”stimulating” and “in a way, the culmination of my life’s work.”

Stimulating.  Have you found the job losses, house foreclosures, and incredible national debt—stimulating?  Me neither.

Obama has recently promised 10 billion of our tax dollars to Brazil (yes, billion with a “b”), in order to give them a leg-up in expanding their offshore oil fields.  Obama’s largesse towards Brazil, came shortly after Soros invested heavily in Brazilian oil (Petrobras).

Tait Trussel writes, “The Petrobras loan may be a windfall for Soros and Brazil, but it is a bad deal for the U.S.  The American Petroleum Institute estimates that oil exploration in the U.S. could create 160,000 new, well-paying jobs, as well as $1.7 trillion in revenues to federal, state, and local governments, all while fostering greater energy security.”

Do you get the feeling that American taxpayers are being treated like gullible suckers?

(By the way, if you want a short primer on Far Left economics—and a great cartoon from a 1911 St. Louis Post-Dispatch—go to actor Michael Moriarty’s website).


A blog you might want to keep an eye on is SorosWatch.com.  This is their mission: “This blog is dedicated to all…who have suffered due to the ruthless financial pursuits of…George Soros. Your stories are many and varied, but the theme is the same:  the destructive power of greed without conscience. We pledge to tirelessly watch Soros wherever he goes and to print the truth in the hope that he will one day stop preying upon the world’s poor…that justice will be served.”

Back to America.  Soros has been actively working to destroy America from the inside out for some years now.  People have been warning us.  Two years ago Bill O’Reilly said on “The O’Reilly Factor” that “Soros [is] an extremist who wants open borders, a one-world foreign policy, legalized drugs, euthanasia, and on and on. This is off-the-chart dangerous….” (Source)

In 1997 Rachel Ehrenfeld wrote, “Soros uses his philanthropy to change—or more accurately deconstruct—the moral values and attitudes of the Western world, and particularly of the American people.  His “open society” is not about freedom; it is about license. His vision rejects the notion of ordered liberty, in favor of an ideology of rights and entitlements.”

Perhaps the most important of these “whistle blowers” are David Horowitz and Richard Poe.  Their book “The Shadow Party” outlines in detail how Soros hijacked the Democratic Party, and now owns it lock, stock, and barrel.

Soros has been packing the Democratic Party with radicals, and ousting moderate Democrats for years.  I don’t have time to do the subject justice in this article, but FrontPage’s Jamie Glazov has an excellent interview with Richard Poe, which will fill you in on many of the facts.

The Shadow Party became the Shadow Government, which became the Obama Administration.

DiscoverTheNetworks.org (another good source) writes, “By his [Soros’] own admission, he helped engineer coups in Slovakia, Croatia, Georgia, and Yugoslavia.  When Soros targets a country for “regime change,” he begins by creating a shadow government—a fully formed government-in-exile, ready to assume power when the opportunity arises. The Shadow Party he has built in America greatly resembles those he has created in other countries prior to instigating a coup.”


The above quote was, of course, written before the Presidential Election.  So was the following quote from a November 2008 edition of the German magazine “Der Spiegel,” in which Soros gives his opinion on what the next POTUS should do after taking office.  “I think we need a large stimulus package….”  Soros thought that around 600 billion would be about right.

Soros also said that “I think this is a great opportunity to finally deal with global warming and energy dependence. The U.S. needs a cap and trade system with auctioning of licenses for emissions rights.”

Any of this sound familiar?

Although Soros doesn’t (yet) own the Republican Party, like he does the Democrats, make no mistake, his tentacles are spread throughout the Republican Party as well.

Soros is a partner in the Carlyle Group where he has invested more than 100 million dollars.  According to an article by “The Baltimore Chronicle’s” Alice Cherbonnier, the Carlye Group is run by “a veritable who’s who of former Republican leaders,” from CIA man Frank Carlucci, to CIA head [and ex-President] George Bush, Sr.

In late 2006, Soros bought about 2 million shares of Halliburton—Dick Cheney’s old stomping grounds.

When the Democrats and Republicans held their conventions in 2000, Soros held Shadow Party conventions in the same cities, at the same time.  Republican Senator John McCain was the keynote speaker at the “Soros Convention” (so labelled by the late Robert Novak) in Philadelphia.

Soros has dirtied both sides of the aisle, trust me.  And if that weren’t bad enough, he has long held connections with the CIA.

And I musn’t forget to mention Soros’ involvement with the LSM (Lame Stream Media), the entertainment industry (e.g. he owns 2.6 million shares of Time Warner), and the various political advertising organizations he funnels millions to.

As Matthew Vadum writes, “The liberal billionaire-turned-philanthropist has been buying up media properties for years in order to drive home his message to the American public that they are too materialistic, too wasteful, too selfish, and too stupid to decide for themselves how to run their own lives.”

Richard Poe writes, “Soros’ private philanthropy, totaling nearly $5 billion, continues undermining America’s traditional Western values. His giving has provided funding of abortion rights, atheism, drug legalization, sex education, euthanasia, feminism, gun control, globalization, mass immigration, gay marriage and other radical experiments
in social engineering.”

Some of the many NGOs (None Government Organizations) that Soros funds with his billions are: MoveOn.org, the Apollo Alliance, Media Matters for America, the Tides Foundation, the ACLU, ACORN, PDIA (Project on Death In America), La Raza, and many more.  For a more complete list, with brief descriptions of the NGOs, go to DiscoverTheNetworks.org.

Poe continues, “Through his global web of Open Society Institutes and Open Society Foundations, Soros has spent 25 years recruiting, training, indoctrinating and installing a network of loyal operatives in 50 countries, placing them in positions of influence and power in media, government, finance and academia.”


As I’ve said before, America currently faces the greatest challenge to its existence as a free republic since the Civil War.  And as we go, so goes the world.

So is Soros to blame for all of America’s woes?

Without Soros, would the Saul Alinsky Chicago machine still be rolling?  Would SEIU, ACORN, and La Raza still be pursuing their nefarious activities?  Would Big Money and lobbyists still be corrupting government?  Would our college campuses still be retirement homes for 1960s radicals?  Yes, yes, yes, and yes—but to much less of a degree.

The purpose of this article is to point out that without the financial skullduggery and Machiavellian manipulations of Soros, America would be a considerably safer, saner, and stabler place to live.

America stands at the brink of an abyss, and that fact is directly attributable to Soros.  Soros has vigorously, cleverly, and insidiously planned the ruination of America.

His conduct has been immoral, duplicitous, and traitorous.  Stripping Soros of his U.S. citizenship, should be one of the first steps taken during the upcoming courtroom trials.

And trials there must be.  No matter the cost, the nest of vipers on Capitol Hill, and all of the traitors in the government at large, must be brought to task for their behavior, or a free America is doomed.

The words of Patrick Henry are apropos: “Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery?  Forbid it, Almighty God!  I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death!”

These days, Patrick Henry’s sentiment is more than just some quaint hyperbole from long ago—it’s a slow burning, but intense, glow that fires our courage and heart.

Laus Deo.

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Re: I don't understand this...
« Reply #19 on: September 15, 2009, 07:21:58 PM »
I see.  So some unnamed "elite banking families" are the planners of a grand conspiracy, and they are using unspecified "pretty egregious tactics" to carry out this conspiracy.  Is that it? 

You won't watch these so you can't really counter what I'm saying :)  I never said unnamed, I said in the other thread names weren't really important and that was for reasons specific to that thread which I stated clearly but you ignored.








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Re: I don't understand this...
« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2009, 07:33:02 AM »
Good shit Hugo.  People need to recognize this is real and is tied into everything.