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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #25 on: March 25, 2009, 11:21:14 PM »
Good videos
F1 is the shit ,WRC close second ,I was lucky enough to watch both live ,
Check this video out


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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2009, 01:26:32 AM »
Here you can see the driver changing gears twice in the middle  of a curve.
 He holds the car with one hand.


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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2009, 04:58:06 AM »
Good videos
F1 is the shit ,WRC close second ,I was lucky enough to watch both live ,
Check this video out


That video is a classic! Pikes Peak baby!

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2009, 05:06:44 AM »
nascardrivers are just as good as F1 drivers

you think massawould win nascar? nope...it's diff cars diff environments....

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #29 on: March 26, 2009, 05:27:23 AM »
Pussies - paddle shifting is for fags.

QFT....haha

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #30 on: March 26, 2009, 05:35:27 AM »
Not really a fan of motorsport but Massa has balls of steel

Fucking impressive.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #31 on: March 26, 2009, 06:09:16 AM »
nascardrivers are just as good as F1 drivers

you think massawould win nascar? nope...it's diff cars diff environments....

please stop.

Nascar drivers has 1/100 of the skill that a f-1 driver has...

and thats because all you have to do in nascar is turn left

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #32 on: March 26, 2009, 06:16:39 AM »
please stop.

Nascar drivers has 1/100 of the skill that a f-1 driver has...

and thats because all you have to do in nascar is turn left

Don't be dumb....F1 cars are set-up totally different....much more downforce, control, etc... not to mention much lighter.  I'm not really a fan of either one, but to act like there is no skill in NASCAR is stupid.  If it's so easy, why don't the F1 drivers move to NASCAR where there are huge paydays?  Ask Villenue or Montoya how "easy" NASCAR is.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #33 on: March 26, 2009, 06:36:17 AM »
every nascar driver would love to be in the f1

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #34 on: March 26, 2009, 06:57:23 AM »
every nascar driver would love to be in the f1

No way. Just as much money in NASCAR contracts/sponsorships.  You europeans just have no clue about NASCAR....you still consider it a "small time" sport, when it's not and hasn't been for over a decade.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #35 on: March 26, 2009, 07:16:27 AM »
do they really make as much many as f1 pilots?

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #36 on: March 26, 2009, 07:22:56 AM »
do they really make as much many as f1 pilots?
Montoya walked away from an estimated $14-million annual salary, to race Nascar series  where racers average about $5-million in base salary .

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #37 on: March 26, 2009, 07:23:18 AM »
do they really make as much many as f1 pilots?

The pay structures are different, but yes they do.  Here is a decent article on it...

http://www.grandprix.com/ns/ns21175.html

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #38 on: March 26, 2009, 07:25:53 AM »
they're all hero's in my book.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2009, 08:02:11 AM »
please stop.

Nascar drivers has 1/100 of the skill that a f-1 driver has...

and thats because all you have to do in nascar is turn left

 ::)  Yea real easy.  That's why you do it.  Another "Armchair" competitor.  When you get your license and start driving maybe you will see how stupid your statement is.  And yes I do think it takes more skill to drive F1 than Nascar but to say Nascar is 1/100 as easy as F1 is just dumb.  But then again I wouldn't have expected anything less from you. 

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #40 on: March 26, 2009, 08:04:25 AM »
Montoya walked away from an estimated $14-million annual salary, to race Nascar series  where racers average about $5-million in base salary .

guess why?

Because Nascar is soo damn easy! and f-1 takes alot of hard work.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #41 on: March 26, 2009, 08:05:19 AM »
::)  Yea real easy.  That's why you do it.  Another "Armchair" competitor.  When you get your license and start driving maybe you will see how stupid your statement is.  And yes I do think it takes more skill to drive F1 than Nascar but to say Nascar is 1/100 as easy as F1 is just dumb.  But then again I wouldn't have expected anything less from you. 

Im sure they are good drivers BUT, its like comparing walking to running at world record speed.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #42 on: March 26, 2009, 08:08:37 AM »
nascardrivers are just as good as F1 drivers

Just another proof you're an idiot. Top F1 drivers make 5-10 times the money Nascar drivers make. Why not enter F1 and make 5-10 times the money if you're good enough? F1 has had a need to have an American driver for a long time for better marketability. There has been numerous attempts, all miserable failures.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #43 on: March 26, 2009, 08:11:26 AM »
montoya left cause schumacher and co were too strong and he was angry cause he lost all the time

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #44 on: March 26, 2009, 08:14:01 AM »
Im sure they are good drivers BUT, its like comparing walking to running at world record speed.

They used to have a series called IROC that started back in the 70's.  It put drivers from all types of racing against each other driving 100% identical cars (Cameros at the start).  It was really cool.  My friend in high school Steve got one of the original IROC Z cars used in the first race that his dad had bought him.  He had to do some modifications to drive it on the street but he had them done and that car was unreal.  Not really sure but I think that was the birth of the IROC Z car.

And you really can't compare Nascar with F1.  They are two totally different types of racing.  I like Nascar but I think F1 is just awesome.  Nascar is a made for everyday class and F1 is for upper class people.  It just seems to work that way.  The very rich hang around F1 races and people dress fancier and drink champagne and Nascar brings out the normal American who drink beer.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #45 on: March 26, 2009, 08:19:57 AM »
Just another proof you're an idiot. Top F1 drivers make 5-10 times the money Nascar drivers make. Why not enter F1 and make 5-10 times the money if you're good enough? F1 has had a need to have an American driver for a long time for better marketability. There has been numerous attempts, all miserable failures.

A lot of that has to do with politics, equipment and a general fish out of water syndrome. I do think that F1 drivers are more skilled, but there are a few Nascar guys that have the skill to compete. Kyle Busch, Jeff Gordon and Jimmy Johnson are guys with open-wheel, road course experience and usually are in the money at Nascars few road courses. I'm sure if they came up in an F1 environment they would be competitive. Of course...whenever there are right turns involved, most of the teams put a road course ringer like Boris Said behind the wheel for the race

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #46 on: March 26, 2009, 08:23:34 AM »
And you really can't compare Nascar with F1.  They are two totally different types of racing.  I like Nascar but I think F1 is just awesome.  Nascar is a made for everyday class and F1 is for upper class people.  It just seems to work that way.  The very rich hang around F1 races and people dress fancier and drink champagne and Nascar brings out the normal American who drink beer.

I know its different things, but there is soooo much more skilled and training involved in f-1 though and that's my only point =)

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #47 on: March 26, 2009, 08:25:07 AM »
I'm sure if they came up in an F1 environment they would be competitive.

Then why don't they? As said before, F1 desperately needs a good American driver - it could boost up their business by billions but all American F1 drivers in the last 15 years or so have just plain sucked...

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #48 on: March 26, 2009, 08:35:58 AM »
Then why don't they? As said before, F1 desperately needs a good American driver - it could boost up their business by billions but all American F1 drivers in the last 15 years or so have just plain sucked...

Probably because they were born in the States and F1 has a very small presence here

. From what i know most Americans that go to F1 have the deck stacked, they usually aren't given the primo rides and crews, and are generally treated with disdain. F1 is quite snobbish and parochial.

Same with Montoya here, He has a 2nd tier ride and it reflects in his placings. If he had Kyle Busch's ride he'd magically get a lot better.

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Re: Can nascar drivers do this?
« Reply #49 on: March 26, 2009, 08:37:18 AM »
Probably because they were born in the States and F1 has a very small presence here

. From what i know most Americans that go to F1 have the deck stacked, they usually aren't given the primo rides and crews, and are generally treated with disdain. F1 is quite snobbish and parochial.

Same with Montoya here, He has a 2nd tier ride and it reflects in his placings. If he had Kyle Busch's ride he'd magically get a lot better.

and if you show true talent you will eventually get signed to a bigger company and get a better car etc etc