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March 25 (Bloomberg) -- California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said a make-shift tent city for the homeless that sprang up in the capital city of Sacramento will be shut down and its residents allowed to stay at the state fairgrounds.

Schwarzenegger said he ordered the state facility known as Cal-Expo to be used for three months to serve the 125 tent city residents, some of them displaced by the economic recession. The encampment may be shut down within a month, said Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson. The move comes after the Sacramento City Council last night agreed to spend $880,000 to expand homeless programs.

"Together with the local government and volunteers, we are taking a first step to ensure the people living in tent city have a safe place to stay, with fresh water, healthy conditions and access to the services they need,” Schwarzenegger said in a statement. “And I am committed to working with Mayor Johnson to find a permanent solution for those living in tent city.”

California, home to one of every eight Americans, has been particularly hard hit by the housing market collapse after many residents turned to exotic mortgages to afford homes. The tent city, which has long existed along the banks of the America River, gained national attention last month when some of its recently homeless residents were featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

The state has one of the highest rates of foreclosure, according to RealtyTrac Inc., an Irvine, California-based seller of real estate data. California home prices dropped 41 percent last month from a year earlier, more than double the U.S. decline, as surging foreclosures drove down values, the state Association of Realtors said today.


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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 07:00:37 AM »
See, government is on it. No need to worry.


March 25 (Bloomberg) -- California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger said a make-shift tent city for the homeless that sprang up in the capital city of Sacramento will be shut down and its residents allowed to stay at the state fairgrounds.

Schwarzenegger said he ordered the state facility known as Cal-Expo to be used for three months to serve the 125 tent city residents, some of them displaced by the economic recession. The encampment may be shut down within a month, said Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson. The move comes after the Sacramento City Council last night agreed to spend $880,000 to expand homeless programs.

"Together with the local government and volunteers, we are taking a first step to ensure the people living in tent city have a safe place to stay, with fresh water, healthy conditions and access to the services they need,” Schwarzenegger said in a statement. “And I am committed to working with Mayor Johnson to find a permanent solution for those living in tent city.”

California, home to one of every eight Americans, has been particularly hard hit by the housing market collapse after many residents turned to exotic mortgages to afford homes. The tent city, which has long existed along the banks of the America River, gained national attention last month when some of its recently homeless residents were featured on the Oprah Winfrey Show.

The state has one of the highest rates of foreclosure, according to RealtyTrac Inc., an Irvine, California-based seller of real estate data. California home prices dropped 41 percent last month from a year earlier, more than double the U.S. decline, as surging foreclosures drove down values, the state Association of Realtors said today.





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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 08:37:33 AM »
Goddamn it!  This means the fair is probably gonna suck this year!

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 08:43:47 AM »
Goddamn it!  This means the fair is probably gonna suck this year!

The government will probably charge these people rent.

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 09:30:39 AM »
This is what a Depression looks like.  7 years is the average life of a Depression in the US.  It's likely to get worse.

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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 09:41:35 AM »
This is what a Depression looks like.  7 years is the average life of a Depression in the US.  It's likely to get worse.

This is just starting. 

Ron Paul said this will last 15 years unless the govt radically changes the way it is doing things.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 09:54:07 AM »
This is what a Depression looks like.  7 years is the average life of a Depression in the US.  It's likely to get worse.

Where the HELL did you ge this statistic from???? The only reason america was able to get itself out of the last depression which went on for years was because of WWI and WWII. In that time there was a LOT of manufacturing in america...NOW THERE IS NONE. There are no industries to lift america out of anything...america is a paper pushing nation of thieves. As it stands america is already in a depression...it has not become full blown yet, but is fast on the way...especially with the foolish spending and bailouts going on wasting TRILLIONS of dollars which will never be repaid. Get ready to see these camps spring up everywhere...and moving them around to try and HIDE what is actually happeing is NOT going to make things better.
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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2009, 09:56:12 AM »
Where the HELL did you ge this statistic from???? The only reason america was able to get itself out of the last depression which went on for years was because of WWI and WWII. In that time there was a LOT of manufacturing in america...NOW THERE IS NONE. There are no industries to lift america out of anything...america is a paper pushing nation of thieves. As it stands america is already in a depression...it has not become full blown yet, but is fast on the way...especially with the foolish spending and bailouts going on wasting TRILLIONS of dollars which will never be repaid. Get ready to see these camps spring up everywhere...and moving them around to try and HIDE what is actually happeing is NOT going to make things better.

Celente & Schiff are saying the same thing. 

Thank god I just ordered a tent for myself!   :) :) :)

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2009, 10:32:57 AM »
this is like something out of an Arnold movie

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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2009, 10:58:41 AM »
Cal Expo is not a place I would want to go camping.

Maybe they can move a few Katrina refugees in?

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2009, 11:49:00 AM »
How long til we have to bail out the tent manufacturers?

Listen, in SW FL, you can rent a shitty trailer for $300 a month. 

You're telling me a family of 4 receiving welfare (presumably as they have kids and no job) can't afford $75 a week for a trailer?

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2009, 12:46:02 PM »
http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=10039565

Homeless in Calif. 'tent city' to get shelter

Associated Press - March 19, 2009 9:23 PM ET

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Officials in Sacramento, Calif., have devised a temporary plan to move about 150 people out of a homeless encampment featured last month on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

Mayor Kevin Johnson said Thursday that he will propose a plan to the City Council next week to move the homeless into shelters and transitional housing.

The encampment north of the city's downtown along the American River has received worldwide attention since the show.

Some recent news reports were inaccurate in reporting that there were a thousand or more people living in the tent city and that many were there because of the recession.

Community groups say the majority of residents at "Tent City" are chronic homeless who have lived there for years.


Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
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« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2009, 02:43:11 PM »
Where the HELL did you ge this statistic from???? The only reason america was able to get itself out of the last depression which went on for years was because of WWI and WWII. In that time there was a LOT of manufacturing in america...NOW THERE IS NONE. There are no industries to lift america out of anything...america is a paper pushing nation of thieves. As it stands america is already in a depression...it has not become full blown yet, but is fast on the way...especially with the foolish spending and bailouts going on wasting TRILLIONS of dollars which will never be repaid. Get ready to see these camps spring up everywhere...and moving them around to try and HIDE what is actually happeing is NOT going to make things better.
I got that number from American History.  The longest depression the US had was the Great Depression in the first half of the century.  It lasted 14 years.

WWI happened before the Great Depression.  You have an error there.

WWII, along with the New Deal, did help the US out of the Depression.  WHy did WWII help?  B/c it was the New Deal on steroids...massive governmental spending.

That's the problem with Obama's plan, it's not spending enough money.

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2009, 05:36:44 PM »
How long til we have to bail out the tent manufacturers?

Listen, in SW FL, you can rent a shitty trailer for $300 a month. 

You're telling me a family of 4 receiving welfare (presumably as they have kids and no job) can't afford $75 a week for a trailer?

California is NOT Florida...maybe you can rent a trailer in Florida for 300 dollars, but what is the rate in California? where would you put the trailer? Fees? Sanitation? Water? Right now the city and businesses are providing for some people in these tent cities. California recently gave people who were owed a tax refund a IOU...Do you thnk the state is in a position to really do much for people.

I say maybe they should all go and commit crimes and this way they will all end up in prison and have three meals, a roof over their head and some degree of insurance.
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« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2009, 05:39:34 PM »
Decker, U sir are waaaaaay to nice. SAMSON the fact that u can't accurately state the dates for WW1 should disqualify u from any further posts. What kind of idiot doesn't know that WW1 took place from 1914-1918. We're talking about 125 people. Relax.
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« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2009, 07:01:36 PM »
Decker, U sir are waaaaaay to nice. SAMSON the fact that u can't accurately state the dates for WW1 should disqualify u from any further posts. What kind of idiot doesn't know that WW1 took place from 1914-1918. We're talking about 125 people. Relax.

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Here is a list of Depressioins to hit america. Though depressions are categorized as OVER, the population and business does not over night just jump back into business. It takes YEARS for an economy to get back into some shape relative to what it once was. WAR and wars have always been the restart of these economies be it Spanish American war, WWI, WWII, Vietnam, Korea or this series of attacks america is commiting in the Middle East. Notice the depressions that have hit america over the past two hundred years and see the correlation with wars that followed soon afterward which helped to raise america out of the depression. I highlighted some in Red...you acn look up the rest...


The Great Depression of the 1930s was called "great" for a reason. It followed a long series of depressions which afflicted the American economy throughout the 19th century.

Crop failures, drops in cotton prices, reckless railroad speculation, and sudden plunges in the stock market all came together at various times to send the growing American economy into chaos. The effects were often brutal, with millions of Americans losing jobs, farmers being forced off their land, and railroads, banks, and other businesses going under for good.

Here are the basic facts on the major financial panics of the 19th century.

Panic of 1819
The first major American depression, the Panic of 1819 was rooted to some extent in economic problems reaching back to the war of 1812.
It was triggered by a collapse in cotton prices. A contraction in credit coincided with the problems in the cotton market, and the young American economy was severely affected.
Banks were forced to call in loans, and foreclosures of farms and bank failures resulted.
The Panic of 1819 lasted until 1821.
The effects were felt most in the west and south. Bitterness about the economic hardships resonated for years and led to the resentment that helped Andrew Jackson solidify his political base throughout the 1820s.
Besides exacerbating sectional animosity, the Panic of 1819 also made many Americans realize the importance of politics and government policy in their lives.

Panic of 1837  Mexican american War helps reinvigorate america
The Panic of 1837 was triggered by a combination of factors including the failure of a wheat crop, a collapse in cotton prices, economic problems in Britain, rapid speculation in land, and problems resulting from the variety of currency in circulation.
It was the second-longest American depression, with effects lasting roughly six years, until 1843.
The panic had a devastating impact. A number of brokerage firms in New York failed, and at least one New York City bank president committed suicide. As the effect rippled across the nation, a number of state-chartered banks also failed. The nascent labor union movement was effectively stopped, as the price of labor plummeted.
The depression caused the collapse of real estate prices. The price of food also collapsed, which was ruinous to farmers and planters who couldn’t get a decent price for their crops. People who lived through the depression following 1837 told stories that would be echoed a century later during The Great Depression.
The aftermath of the panic of 1837 led to Martin Van Buren’s failure to secure a second term in the election of 1840. Many blamed the economic hardships on the policies of Andrew Jackson, and Van Buren, who had been Jackson’s vice president, paid the political price.

Panic of 1857 Civil War 1861 - 1865 helps invigorate america
The Panic of 1857 was triggered by the failure of the Ohio Life Insurance and Trust Company, which actually did much of its business as a bank headquartered in New York City. Reckless speculation in railroads led the company into trouble, and the company’s collapse led to a literal panic in the financial district, as crowds of frantic investors clogged the streets around Wall Street.
Stock prices plummeted, and more than 900 mercantile firms in New York had to cease operation. By the end of the year the American economy was a shambles.
One victim of the Panic of 1857 was a future Civil War hero and US president, Ulysses S. Grant, who was bankrupted and had to pawn his gold watch to buy Christmas presents.
Recovery from the depression began in early 1859.
 
Panic of 1873 
The investment firm of Jay Cooke and Company went bankrupt in September 1873 as a result of rampant speculation in railroads. The stock market dropped sharply and caused numerous businesses to fail.
The depression caused approximately three million Americans to lose their jobs.
The collapse in food prices impacted America's farm economy, causing great poverty in rural America.
The depression lasted for five years, until 1878.
The Panic of 1873 led to a populist movement that saw the creation of the Greenback Party.
 
Panic of 1893 Spanish American War in this time frame helps reinvigorate america
The depression set off by the Panic of 1893 was the greatest depression America had known, and was only surpassed by the Great

Depression of the 1930s. World War II starts in the late thirties and runs into the fourties reinvigorates america
In early May 1893 the New York stock market dropped sharply, and in late June panic selling caused the stock market to crash.
A severe credit crisis resulted, and more than 16,000 businesses had failed by the end of 1893. Included in the failed businesses were 156 railroads and nearly 500 banks.
Unemployment spread until one in six American men lost their jobs.
The depression inspired "Coxey's Army," a march on Washington of unemployed men. The protesters demanded that the government provide public works jobs. Their leader, Jacob Coxey, was imprisoned for 20 days.
The depression caused by the Panic of 1893 lasted for about four years, ending in 1897.
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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2009, 07:11:30 PM »
Congrats u can cut and paste..but WWI started in 1914 and ended in 1918 well before the crash in 1929. Ur wrong, u know ur wrong and it wasn't a typo. Ur an idiot who won't admit to where ur from. U hate America, which is fine, plenty of u idiots around the world. I'd like to think a few less because of my hard work...but in any event, u cut and paste and blab...tell us where ur from. I refuse to believe ur Hugo, he can't be this big a douchebag.
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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2009, 09:19:16 PM »
He has his moments.

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2009, 09:30:11 PM »
California is NOT Florida...maybe you can rent a trailer in Florida for 300 dollars, but what is the rate in California? where would you put the trailer? Fees? Sanitation? Water?


1) They can move to FL and live here.  get their welfare check, cash it, buy 4 greyhound tickets for $39 each, and leave.

2) It's 300 a month to rent.  Water and elec cost maybe 150 total - but they dont have that in tents, so I didn't count that.  They can keep living without it, but they'll have a roof at least.

No fees, the landlord covers it.  Sanitation is free here.

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #19 on: March 26, 2009, 09:43:58 PM »
http://www.krdo.com/Global/story.asp?S=10039565

Homeless in Calif. 'tent city' to get shelter

Associated Press - March 19, 2009 9:23 PM ET

SACRAMENTO, Calif. (AP) - Officials in Sacramento, Calif., have devised a temporary plan to move about 150 people out of a homeless encampment featured last month on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

Mayor Kevin Johnson said Thursday that he will propose a plan to the City Council next week to move the homeless into shelters and transitional housing.

The encampment north of the city's downtown along the American River has received worldwide attention since the show.

Some recent news reports were inaccurate in reporting that there were a thousand or more people living in the tent city and that many were there because of the recession.

Community groups say the majority of residents at "Tent City" are chronic homeless who have lived there for years.


Copyright 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Noooo.  Not the facts again. 

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« Reply #20 on: March 26, 2009, 09:45:24 PM »
LOL @ quoting "community groups".

They're not "real jobs".
They offer "no real experience".
They're not as useful at PTA presidents or alaskan sports journalists.

Yet we quote them when we need them :) :) :)

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2009, 10:24:42 PM »
Congrats u can cut and paste..but WWI started in 1914 and ended in 1918 well before the crash in 1929. Ur wrong, u know ur wrong and it wasn't a typo. Ur an idiot who won't admit to where ur from. U hate America, which is fine, plenty of u idiots around the world. I'd like to think a few less because of my hard work...but in any event, u cut and paste and blab...tell us where ur from. I refuse to believe ur Hugo, he can't be this big a douchebag.


DUUUUUUH...quit while you are far behind. THe point of my post from the very beginning was to show how americans could easily end up in wide scale tent cities. Decker deceides to post info on DEPRESSIONS which he claimed lasted on average 7 years and then come to an end. I corrected his and your ignorance with facts that ALL depressions are brought to an end by war. i am not stuck on stupid as you are with trying to argue the starting dates of WWI (whats the fuckign purpose) the point is it took wars and manufacturing to bring america out of DEPRESSIONS. Well there is no more manufacturing in america (and obviously no more education either as dumb as you show yourself to be) so this DEPRESSION america is fast in and sinking faster still, will be the end of america. Now with a NEW CURRENCY coming into being in the world and the dollar being dropped...how is america going to survive??? IT WON'T. IT'S OVER!!!!

The Europeans, Russians, Chinese, Indians, Middle Easterners, Africans etc will go on without america...especially once they officially recognize the new currency as the STANDARD. Scream and yell all you wish...this is one situation inwhich there is no alternative plan.
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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #22 on: March 26, 2009, 11:46:15 PM »


Community groups say the majority of residents at "Tent City" are chronic homeless who have lived there for years.




ok, the majority can be 51%. That could mean 49% of the homeless are there because of the economy/real estate situation.

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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2009, 02:35:41 PM »

DUUUUUUH...quit while you are far behind. THe point of my post from the very beginning was to show how americans could easily end up in wide scale tent cities. Decker deceides to post info on DEPRESSIONS which he claimed lasted on average 7 years and then come to an end. I corrected his and your ignorance with facts that ALL depressions are brought to an end by war. i am not stuck on stupid as you are with trying to argue the starting dates of WWI (whats the fuckign purpose) the point is it took wars and manufacturing to bring america out of DEPRESSIONS. Well there is no more manufacturing in america (and obviously no more education either as dumb as you show yourself to be) so this DEPRESSION america is fast in and sinking faster still, will be the end of america. Now with a NEW CURRENCY coming into being in the world and the dollar being dropped...how is america going to survive??? IT WON'T. IT'S OVER!!!!

The Europeans, Russians, Chinese, Indians, Middle Easterners, Africans etc will go on without america...especially once they officially recognize the new currency as the STANDARD. Scream and yell all you wish...this is one situation inwhich there is no alternative plan.
What the hell are you talking about?  Your writing betrays a muddled mind. 

ALL depressions are brought to an end by war    That's your new thesis.  Even if that were true, who cares?  Who is arguing that point besides you?

http://www.sjsu.edu/faculty/watkins/depressions.htm
The Depression of 1807-1814 in the U.S. (7 years)
The Depression of 1837-1844  (7 years)
The Depression of 1873-1879 (6 years)
1929-1941 - The Great Depression and the last depression the US ever had since adopting Keynesian spending policies. (12 years)

Those are depressions not 'panics'.  Do you see the number of years that those depressions lasted?  Yeah, I was way off with my estimate that US depressions last on average 7 years.  Thanks for setting me straight.

What exactly are bitching about?

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Re: Schwarzenegger Opens California Fairgrounds to Homeless Camp
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2009, 03:04:16 PM »
Decker, U sir are waaaaaay to nice. SAMSON the fact that u can't accurately state the dates for WW1 should disqualify u from any further posts. What kind of idiot doesn't know that WW1 took place from 1914-1918. We're talking about 125 people. Relax.

Strange that you criticise someone for their lack of knowledge of WWI yet insist (incorrectly) that American involvement was necessary.
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