Natural ROB RICHES gets the BITCHES!

[MAXX]

yeah quite charismatic

bet he pulls alot of ass

[The Master]

He has a very engaging personality and is quite affable.  It is funny that the IFBB has nobody intelligent or well-spoken as Rob Riches.  He is entertaining.

His interview with Dextor Jackson = hillarious. You've got this outstanding specimen, that appears to be pretty intelligent interviewing this roided guy with a severe lack of braincells and zero charisma (that actually tries to be arrogant, when he = inferior).

[Deicide]

Funny how achievers focus on hard work and discipline, whereas non-achievers focus on genetics, luck, conspiracies, etc. 

 

He has good genetics. If he had only average genetics and worked as hard as he did now he would not look that good. That is a fact.

Bodybuilding in 99% genetics. What planet are you living on?

[The Master]

Bodybuilding in 99% genetics. What planet are you living on?

Hopefully you = making an example, because that was a bit of an overstatement.

[burn2live]

<10% year round bitches

[io856]

Hopefully you = making an example, because that was a bit of an overstatement.

Debussey = a good poster 

[Andy Griffin]

He has good genetics. If he had only average genetics and worked as hard as he did now he would not look that good. That is a fact.

Bodybuilding in 99% genetics. What planet are you living on?

Again, let a few achievers say, "Well, it's really all genetics.  I did nothing for this physique," and I might believe your assertion.  You sound like some kid that failed a math test telling the kid that got an A the he "had to have cheated - it's a fact"  

[Deicide]

Hopefully you = making an example, because that was a bit of an overstatement.

99% genetics and the rest is hard work and diet...come on, you can't deny that?!

[Deicide]

Again, let a few achievers say, "Well, it's really all genetics.  I did nothing for this physique," and I might believe your assertion.  You sound like some kid that failed a math test telling the kid that got an A the he "had to have cheated - it's a fact"  

You obviously didn't listen to what I said. I said that an average guy working equally as hard would not achieve the same results. It has nothing to do with achieving or not achieving. Intelligence, body composition, musical ability, language abiliity, etc., all genetic and the rest is the work you put into it.

[JimmyJam1974]

99% genetics and the rest is hard work and diet...come on, you can't deny that?!

66% of all percentages are made up on the spot

[io856]

99% genetics and the rest is hard work and diet...come on, you can't deny that?!

booooooooooooooooolshit

[Bobby]

so he is a "pro" doing THAT

[Deicide]

booooooooooooooooolshit

Right; and where would you put genetics then, 50%?

[Devon97]

HT/ WT?

[burn2live]

You obviously didn't listen to what I said. I said that an average guy working equally as hard would not achieve the same results. It has nothing to do with achieving or not achieving. Intelligence, body composition, musical ability, language abiliity, etc., all genetic and the rest is the work you put into it.

I agree, genetics are simply potential until you do something with them. I doubt many people would look like Rob Riches if they had the same regime.

[Andy Griffin]

You obviously didn't listen to what I said. I said that an average guy working equally as hard would not achieve the same results. It has nothing to do with achieving or not achieving. Intelligence, body composition, musical ability, language abiliity, etc., all genetic and the rest is the work you put into it.

It is difficult to take you seriously when you use ridiculous statistics like 99%.  I am certain that genetics plays a part, but how do you accurately quantify that part?  You sound like one of these losers at the bar who says things like, "90% of these guys are crooked" or "Less than 1% of people in this town make more than I do" when you have no factual basis for such statements.

[io856]

Saying genetics is 99% when it comes to achieving musculature and conditioning is rediculous and a defeatist attitude.

How about actually lifting weights and following a diet... fucks sake where do some of you come from.

[The.Giant]

I wish my shoulder tie-in looked like that.

Is that from low bodyfat, lots of lateral delt work, genetics, or a combo?

[burn2live]

I wouldn't say as high as 99%, but mostly genetics nevertheless

[Bobby]

bodyfat

[MAXX]

You obviously didn't listen to what I said. I said that an average guy working equally as hard would not achieve the same results. It has nothing to do with achieving or not achieving. Intelligence, body composition, musical ability, language abiliity, etc., all genetic and the rest is the work you put into it.

yes he has good genetics but everyone has to work hard to get these results.

for example

Layne Norton has much worse genetics in terms of shape and structure but he could probably stand toe to toe with this guy or beat him in a bb competition

so saying it's 99% genetics is just stupid.

[burn2live]

I wish my shoulder tie-in looked like that.

Is that from low bodyfat, lots of lateral delt work, genetics, or a combo?

In this case, genetics. Can't change your muscle shape

[Deicide]

It is difficult to take you seriously when you use ridiculous statistics like 99%.  I am certain that genetics plays a part, but how do you accurately quantify that part?  You sound like one of these losers at the bar who says things like, "90% of these guys are crooked" or "Less than 1% of people in this town make more than I do" when you have no factual basis for such statements.

99% is clearly not a clearly defined percentage. Quantifying it is simple. Take your average Joe, work him just as hard as this guy with exactly the same routine and principles and I guarantee he won't look as good. Chopin obviously worked hard but do you think for a second that Joe the Fireman working equally as hard as Chopin could come even close to producing results anywhere near those of Chopin? No. Do you think that Bob the Barber, who worked just as hard at physics would rival an Einstein in his accomplishments? No. In my subject there are people who already have their PhDs who read the same pages by Chomsky over and over just to get it. It is all genetics and hard work can be assumed along with that.

[Andy Griffin]

99% is clearly not a clearly defined percentage. Quantifying it is simple. Take your average Joe, work him just as hard as this guy with exactly the same routine and principles and I guarantee he won't look as good. Chopin obviously worked hard but do you think for a second that Joe the Fireman working equally as hard as Chopin could come even close to producing results anywhere near those of Chopin? No. Do you think that Bob the Barber, who worked just as hard at physics would rival an Einstein in his accomplishments? No. In my subject there are people who already have their PhDs who read the same pages by Chomsky over and over just to get it. It is all genetics and hard work can be assumed along with that.

If "quantifying it is simple" then why have you failed to do so with this pamphlet you just composed?  You are simply making general statements comparing real achievers to imaginary non-achievers.  Comparing real apples to plastic oranges.  Go cry yourself to sleep.  Again.

[The Master]

99% genetics and the rest is hard work and diet...come on, you can't deny that?!

Debussey thinks the 99% thing is a bit of an overstatement for the most part.

Debussey thinks that as in most areas, there is a "threshold" of "genetics/talent" needed to be had in order to have a chance to succeed in the first place. If you're a freaking moron, mongoloid or whatnot, you will not be able to master areas like advanced physics or mathematics, no matter how much you try. But if you are above the "threshold", you can succeed (the further above the threshold you are, the easier it might be to succeed).
If you are one of those unlucky bastards that does not have enough talent to succeed in BB for example, then genetics = 100%, because no amount of work will help you.. But VERY FEW people are so "genetically impaired" that they can't improve their body.
Of course, when you get to the upper-echelon of competitive bodybuilding, the "genetical threshold" becomes higher and higher, and very few people can compete in those upper levels regardless of what they do (thus, genetics = everything for them), but if you take an average of all people BB'ing out there, the "genetical threshold/cutoff/whatever" = not that high (most people don't aspire to be Ronnie..), and a big% of people are "good enough" to have a chance to meet their goals.

If you are "good enough", remember that attaining a muscular and defined body requires getting the body into a certain state of body composition, and except for a chosen few, it does take effort. Muscles and burnt fat won't come by itself. A few % might be super-talented and able to get by without doing shit, but many more can get that nice body if they put in the work.
Again, genetics will still be an important determining factor for the output (results) of the input (work), but to say that it is "99%", given that one is above that "threshold" = an overstatement. Very few % of the people capable of getting into good shape out there get into that shape without the work..

Haha, just like most things in life, the bell curve strikes again