Author Topic: Serious question for STella (Read 4239 times)

benz · « **on:** April 03, 2009, 02:30:18 PM »

Hello Stella
I know you are a jesus fan, just like me, so here's the question

Some weeks ago, while drinking with some friends, they were discussing wheter to donate or not organs when you die, and many were explaining the benefits of letting somebody else the chance to live.
When i was asked if im going to donate my organs, i said no. As expected, many asked me "Why not?" so i said:

"What if i have to resuscitate like jesus did? I cant imagine myself not being able to resuscitate because im missing a vital organ or without eyes"

My friends looked at me and said im crazy, because only jesus can resuscitate, nobody else.

I know i am not jesus but you never know what will happen right after you die, what do you think about my choice?

ToxicAvenger · « **Reply #1 on:** April 03, 2009, 02:38:09 PM »

donate...YES...

its the proper and right thing to do...

end of discussion....

some things are NOT open to debate....

its like asking if a decent guy would ever hit a girl...the answer would always be a resounding "NO"

benz · « **Reply #2 on:** April 03, 2009, 02:39:00 PM »

Quote from: ProteinFarts! on April 03, 2009, 02:38:09 PM

donate...YES...

its the proper and right thing to do...

end of discussion....

some things are NOT open to debate....

its like asking if a decent guy would ever hit a girl...the answer would always be a resounding "NO"

How about my other reasoning?

Butterbean · « **Reply #3 on:** April 03, 2009, 02:40:42 PM »

benz, I believe our resurrected bodies (and I believe everyone will be resurrected) will be different than the ones we have now and God can put them back together even if someone was exploded or burnt up into dust..eaten by a shark etc....in fact, I believe a handicapped person or amputee will be made whole. A blind person will be able to see.

I am an organ donor...some of them they may not want $:-\$ but I have faith God will provide what is missing. Our bodies will not be as we know them now.

I have to leave for a little while and will be back on in a bit!

benz · « **Reply #4 on:** April 03, 2009, 02:43:03 PM »

Quote from: STella on April 03, 2009, 02:40:42 PM

benz, I believe our resurrected bodies (and I believe everyone will be resurrected) will be different than the ones we have now and God can put them back together even if someone was exploded or burnt up into dust..eaten by a shark etc....in fact, I believe a handicapped person or amputee will be made whole. A blind person will be able to see.

I am an organ donor...some of them they may not want $:-\$ but I have faith God will provide what is missing. Our bodies will not be as we know them now.

I have to leave for a little while and will be back on in a bit!

But the question is: What if jesus decide you must resuscitate as the person you were, known by your family and friends, like giving you a second chance to finish what you couldnt before dying?

Butterbean · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2009, 04:49:33 PM »

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 02:43:03 PM

But the question is: What if jesus decide you must resuscitate as the person you were, known by your family and friends, like giving you a second chance to finish what you couldnt before dying?

I believe that we will know who each other are, even if you'd never met them. FOr instance. If you and I both were in heaven and we had never met or seen each other's faces, we would walk toward each other and you would know I was STella and I would know you were benz.

I believe that even if a bomb went off in the face of someone I only met afterward when their face was injured and deformed, that when I saw them in heaven w/their uninjured face, I would know who that person was.

I also don't think that we get another chance to do stuff before we die....but I do think God could make it possible if He chose to do so.

benz · « **Reply #6 on:** April 03, 2009, 04:55:07 PM »

Quote from: STella on April 03, 2009, 04:49:33 PM

I also don't think that we get another chance to do stuff before we die....but I do think God could make it possible if He chose to do so.

Why do you think theres no another chance to do/finish something we didnt before dying?

MindSpin · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2009, 04:55:27 PM »

I thought you were going to ask if she was into anal $:-\$ The title of this thread should be changed so as not to raise hopes...

benz · « **Reply #8 on:** April 03, 2009, 04:56:58 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on April 03, 2009, 04:55:27 PM

I thought you were going to ask if she was into anal $:-\$ The title of this thread should be changed so as not to raise hopes...

Why would i ask her that ? I respect STella, but you dont.

Butterbean · « **Reply #9 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:03:46 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on April 03, 2009, 04:55:27 PM

I thought you were going to ask if she was into anal $:-\$ The title of this thread should be changed so as not to raise hopes...

diki and naguu wouldn't approve

Butterbean · « **Reply #10 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:11:54 PM »

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 04:55:07 PM

Why do you think theres no another chance to do/finish something we didnt before dying?

Maybe I should say there are some things I believe we won't have another chance to do before dying.

But there probably are things...like repairing broken relationships etc. So yes, I think you're right benz....but we won't need certain body parts to do so. I believe God will see to that.

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #11 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:14:01 PM »

Consider that the Lord Himself still has the holes in His hands and side.

Butterbean · « **Reply #12 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:16:34 PM »

Quote from: Andy Griffin on April 03, 2009, 05:14:01 PM

Consider that the Lord Himself still has the holes in His hands and side.

This is a great point. Some believe that martyrs will have marks of their deaths on their bodies, ie: a mark across their neck if they were guillotined, etc.

But I do not believe that a man who lived on earth w/one leg will have one leg in heaven. Could be wrong of course, but I think we will be made whole.

benz · « **Reply #13 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:22:33 PM »

Quote from: STella on April 03, 2009, 05:16:34 PM

This is a great point. Some believe that martyrs will have marks of their deaths on their bodies, ie: a mark across their neck if they were guillotined, etc.

But I do not believe that a man who lived on earth w/one leg will have one leg in heaven. Could be wrong of course, but I think we will be made whole.

When you go to heave, it doesnt mean you become a tom cruise or michelle pfeifer lol, with that said, if you were sick on earth, you will be sick on heaven, jesus died for your sins, so you gotta pay him in some way

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #14 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:23:36 PM »

Quote from: STella on April 03, 2009, 05:16:34 PM

This is a great point. Some believe that martyrs will have marks of their deaths on their bodies, ie: a mark across their neck if they were guillotined, etc.

But I do not believe that a man who lived on earth w/one leg will have one leg in heaven. Could be wrong of course, but I think we will be made whole.

I can go either way on this. Scripture gives hints toward what you are saying but I think our Father leaves some things a mystery in His wisdom.

MindSpin · « **Reply #15 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:27:20 PM »

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 04:56:58 PM

Why would i ask her that ? I respect STella, but you dont.

Oh brother

Where's your sense of humor?

benz · « **Reply #16 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:30:26 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on April 03, 2009, 05:27:20 PM

Oh brother Where's your sense of humor?

right in your mothers vagina

lol

MindSpin · « **Reply #17 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:30:31 PM »

Quote from: STella on April 03, 2009, 05:03:46 PM

diki and naguu wouldn't approve

MindSpin · « **Reply #18 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:31:34 PM »

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 05:30:26 PM

right in your mothers vagina

lol

I see. You respect Stella but not my mother. Touche! Okay, I'll let you get back to your lesbian discussion on the "girl" board

benz · « **Reply #19 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:32:49 PM »

Quote from: MindSpin on April 03, 2009, 05:31:34 PM

I see. You respect Stella but not my mother. Touche! Okay, I'll let you get back to your lesbian discussion on the "girl" board

wheres your sense of humor

Werent you the one that offered a cage fight to chaos lol

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #20 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:34:01 PM »

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 05:22:33 PM

jesus died for your sins, so you gotta pay him in some way

Sounding a bit Romish there...are you speaking in terms of purgatory, or just incomplete atonement?

(note: just asking a question definitely not starting a debate on the subject)

benz · « **Reply #21 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:36:24 PM »

Quote from: Andy Griffin on April 03, 2009, 05:34:01 PM

Sounding a bit Romish there...are you speaking in terms of purgatory, or just incomplete atonement?

(note: just asking a question definitely not starting a debate on the subject)

What i mean is, that he suffered for us, and if he can do it, no doubt any believer can do it too

Andy Griffin · « **Reply #22 on:** April 03, 2009, 05:39:11 PM »

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 05:36:24 PM

What i mean is, that he suffered for us, and if he can do it, no doubt any believer can do it too

Oh, okay. Just clarifying.

One day, we'll know it all. Like whether Goliath was natural, or on gear. Probably genetics as well. David prevailed because he had superior "ground skills."

Migs · « **Reply #23 on:** April 03, 2009, 07:56:37 PM »

Quote from: STella on April 03, 2009, 05:11:54 PM

Maybe I should say there are some things I believe we won't have another chance to do before dying.

But there probably are things...like repairing broken relationships etc. So yes, I think you're right benz....but we won't need certain body parts to do so. I believe God will see to that.

like eat, poop and have sex. Not in that order.

Butterbean · « **Reply #24 on:** April 04, 2009, 07:04:39 AM »

LOL @ benz and Mindspring

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 05:22:33 PM

When you go to heave, it doesnt mean you become a tom cruise or michelle pfeifer lol, with that said, if you were sick on earth, you will be sick on heaven, jesus died for your sins, so you gotta pay him in some way

I don't think we'll be sick in heaven.

Rev 21:4:
He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

Quote from: benz on April 03, 2009, 05:36:24 PM

What i mean is, that he suffered for us, and if he can do it, no doubt any believer can do it too

I see your point here but I don't think we'll continue suffering like that in heaven. I see only Grace and faith/belief as a means of "getting us in" so I don't think there will be a need for us to suffer for Him there.

Quote from: Migs on April 03, 2009, 07:56:37 PM

like eat, poop and have sex. Not in that order.

I believe we will eat (the bible says Jesus ate while in His glorified body) but not have sex. Not sure if we'll poop or not.