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Socialism - Good on Paper, Not in Reality...
« on: April 04, 2009, 10:40:09 AM »
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had failed very few students but had, once, failed an entire class. That class had insisted that socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "Ok, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism."
"All grades will be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade meaning, obviously, no one will receive an A." They all agreed to this. After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a C. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy.
But, as the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too, so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great dismay the professor failed them all. Then he sent all of them this note: "A socialistic government will also ultimately fail - because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed."

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« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2009, 10:45:10 AM »
The impossible flaw: Human Greed.

The feathering of one own nest.

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« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2009, 10:46:37 AM »
Very true dat - socialism simply does nothing more than expose human nature for what it really is.

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« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2009, 10:50:20 AM »

awesome argument against socialism  ::)






oh and the last two posters...those are the exact reasons why capitalism fails

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« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2009, 10:51:03 AM »
This smells of bullcrap.

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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2009, 10:55:15 AM »
awesome argument against socialism  ::)






oh and the last two posters...those are the exact reasons why capitalism fails

So whats your plan Obama?  :D

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2009, 10:55:18 AM »
For you bitches afraid of socialism, take a look at the Scandinavian countries and try to come back here with a straight face and say socialism is bad.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2009, 11:21:31 AM »
Everyone should read Capitalism and Freedom...

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« Reply #8 on: April 04, 2009, 12:51:28 PM »
EXACTLY!

good post.  Socialism is for the weak and lazy. 
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« Reply #9 on: April 04, 2009, 12:53:15 PM »
One could make a compelling arguement against true capitalism also...
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2009, 12:55:47 PM »
This smells of bullcrap.
i got that in an email last week from a republican friend of mine.  sounds like what some stupid texas educator would do.

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« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2009, 12:57:16 PM »
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« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2009, 12:57:35 PM »
huge beyond belief!
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2009, 12:59:47 PM »
One could make a compelling arguement against true capitalism also...


The thing is not to become an ideologue; be open minded enough to accept that absolutist values in political philosophy rarely carry currency and should be treated with suspicion.
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2009, 01:09:22 PM »
The thing is not to become an ideologue; be open minded enough to accept that absolutist values in political philosophy rarely carry currency and should be treated with suspicion.

okay "true adonis"
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« Reply #15 on: April 04, 2009, 01:14:22 PM »
Most of the time if something is good on paper but not good in reality is because it was executed in the wrong manner.
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 01:15:20 PM »
okay "true adonis"

Am I now a gimmik for TA? Wow... :o
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2009, 04:22:36 PM »
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awesome argument against socialism 






oh and the last two posters...those are the exact reasons why capitalism fails

Capitalism succeeds because it COPES with human nature and greed. It does not try to pretend that greed doesnt exist. It is a system that says that in order for people to try to satisfy thier greed, they need to do things that other people want.

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« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2009, 04:24:36 PM »
I have to wonder political party Jesus would join.


Dems: Anti-war.  All about helping the poor.  Welfare - Jesus did give a whole lotta bread and fish to the hungry.

Repubs: Start pre-emptive wars and 'acquire' another nations resources.  Jesus didn't steal.

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« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2009, 04:57:09 PM »
For you bitches afraid of socialism, take a look at the Scandinavian countries and try to come back here with a straight face and say socialism is bad.

I have read a lot about the economies of Scandinavian countries because I hear them used so often as examples of "successful socialism".  This argument falls a bit flat because these countries do have a lot of capitalism blended into their economies.  In the past few decades many state run industries have been privatized to stave off economic stagnation.  Their economies have become significantly more capitalistic and they have done quite well as a result. 

It might surprise you to learn that they have lower corporate tax rates than America.  They are also extremely friendly to private foreign investment, something that no socialist would approve of.  Scandinavian nations make it pretty easy to start new businesses.  They also have relatively large black markets to avoid the high income and sales / consumption taxes. 

Not to mention the societal differences between Scandinavia and other nations-  these are high IQ nations with the lowest corruption in the world.  And they have a lot of natural resources.  Something that works well there is not necessarily going to be successful elsewhere. 


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« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2009, 04:57:23 PM »
Am I now a gimmik for TA? Wow... :o

nonono ;D that's not what i meant...i was referring to all the "big" words 8)
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« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2009, 04:59:14 PM »
I have to wonder political party Jesus would join.


Dems: Anti-war.  All about helping the poor.  Welfare - Jesus did give a whole lotta bread and fish to the hungry.

Repubs: Start pre-emptive wars and 'acquire' another nations resources.  Jesus didn't steal.


Come on 240; Dems and Repubs at the end of the day=same party
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« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2009, 06:33:27 PM »
You're defending a capitalist ideal which doesn't exist in America.  The current American system is ruthless capitalism for the poor and generous socailism for the rich.  2 words: government bailout.

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« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2009, 07:01:53 PM »
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I have to wonder political party Jesus would join.


Dems: Anti-war.  All about helping the poor.  Welfare - Jesus did give a whole lotta bread and fish to the hungry.

Repubs: Start pre-emptive wars and 'acquire' another nations resources.  Jesus didn't steal.

Im not religous, nor am I any kind of a Bible expert, but is there any place in the gospels where Jesus says that he is against war? And Jesus never stole from people to give to others. And he never preached stealing from someone to give to others. There is nothing moral about giving someone somebody else's money. That is a very easy thing to do. Why cant you people recognize that?
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« Reply #24 on: April 04, 2009, 07:12:51 PM »
awesome argument against socialism  ::)
oh and the last two posters...those are the exact reasons why capitalism fails

It's a perfect and very valid example of the flaw of Socialism. Obviously, you have no idea about Capitalism, which is the only economic construct that is proper and benevolent.