Gay adoption?

[ToxicAvenger]

  In an ideal world, orphaned children in the USA and abroad would be raised by their biological parents, but natural death, poverty, disease, and war, have created more than 100 million orphans around the world!  Most of these children will lead lives of utter misery (if they are lucky).  The rest will die premature deaths.

you begin such, that you refer to "gay adoption" as not the most ideal of situations....instead you offer it as an less palatable alternative....   


stick to your guns my man...



and yes i do think gay people should be allowed to adopt children who would otherwise die.


Hetro couples should get first pick.




there is millions of yrs of Darwanism and evolution behind my logic.

[Eisenherz]

you begin such, that you refer to "gay adoption" as not the most ideal of situations....instead you offer it as an less palatable alternative....   


stick to your guns my man...



and yes i do think gay people should be allowed to adopt children who would otherwise die.


Hetro couples should get first pick.




there is millions of yrs of Darwanism and evolution behind my logic.

You blind gullible fool, that whole "allow gays to adopts children who would otherwise die/live in an orphanage" is just wool they want to pull over your eyes.
Maybe its an American thing, just like your former president said "lets invade iraq because they have weapons of mass destruction even though we found none" conveniently not mentioning the oil.
Same with allowing women to vote so that they have "equal rights"  instead of mentioning that its to be able to tax the other half of the population.
Remember, gay parenting goes against the natural order and therefore should never be acceptable.

[big L dawg]

I have a friend that was up for adoption and never got adopted.I asked him his take on this issue...he looked at me like it was the dumbest question he ever heard.He said he would have rather been raised by anyone gay,lesbian,straight,aliens, ANYONE.than grow up were he grew up in the care of the state.he never knew what it was like to have his own bedroom or go play outside in his own yard.we had a very long discussion on this and it reinforced my stance that If your don't support gay adoption you shouldn't oppose abortion.

[Eisenherz]

don't support gay adoption you shouldn't oppose abortion.

Well I dont oppose abortion, and what you just said seems to be another one of the fags cards that they like to play to get more votes on their sides " oh shit I dont support abortion therefore I should vote gay!"
 
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[OzmO]

The question seems to be:

Are children better off growing in orphanages and foster homes or with loving but Gay parents?

I think the answer is obvious.

[big L dawg]

The question seems to be:

Are children better off growing in orphanages and foster homes or with loving but Gay parents?

I think the answer is obvious.

correct.

[Eisenherz]

No, the question is:

Should gay parenting be legalised?

[Deicide]

The question seems to be:

Are children better off growing in orphanages and foster homes or with loving but Gay parents?

I think the answer is obvious.

MFQFT....

[OzmO]

No, the question is:

Should gay parenting be legalised?

Telling people they can't have babies because of their sexual orientation? 

Out of the question.

[Eisenherz]

Telling people they can't have babies because of their sexual orientation? 

Out of the question.

Er, nature tells them they cant, not me, trust me they've tried to do it, but it wont happen.

[OzmO]

Er, nature tells them they cant, not me, trust me they've tried to do it, but it wont happen.

Nature also tells people they can't fly but yet we have planes.

[Deicide]

Telling people they can't have babies because of their sexual orientation? 

Out of the question.

AQFT

[OzmO]

MFQFT....

AQFT

What do those stand for?

MF = Mother F-er?
Q = Question?

[Deicide]

What do those stand for?

MF = Mother F-er?
Q = Question?

Mother Fucking Quoted For Truth

[tonymctones]

Er, nature tells them they cant, not me, trust me they've tried to do it, but it wont happen.

actually now or days guys can have babies as sickening as that is

Nature also tells people they can't fly but yet we have planes.

nature has animals that fly, nature to my knowledge does not have homosexual couples that produce young.

again homosexuality=pointless

[ToxicAvenger]

You blind gullible fool, that whole "allow gays to adopts children who would otherwise die/live in an orphanage" is just wool they want to pull over your eyes.
Maybe its an American thing, just like your former president said "lets invade iraq because they have weapons of mass destruction even though we found none" conveniently not mentioning the oil.
Same with allowing women to vote so that they have "equal rights"  instead of mentioning that its to be able to tax the other half of the population.
Remember, gay parenting goes against the natural order and therefore should never be acceptable.

lemme guess....


...juuuust throwing things out there


you r Religious





you sound as bad as the pro life nuts that scream in the face of a raped girl thats now prego...fucking idiot

[tonymctones]

you sound as bad as the pro life nut that scream in the face of a raped girl thats now prego...fucking idiot

religious or not if youre against abortion on the grounds that youre killing an innocent child, logically you have to be against is in all cases with the exception maybe of if the mothers health is in jeopardy. Rape or no rape doesnt change the fact that the child is innocent does it?

[Deicide]

actually now or days guys can have babies as sickening as that is
nature has animals that fly, nature to my knowledge does not have homosexual couples that produce young.

again homosexuality=pointless

But nature DOES have tons of homsexuality.

[tonymctones]

But nature DOES have tons of homsexuality.

LOL homosexuality in nature is but a fraction, you say tons like its normal but its not and you know this. Even with this fact though thats besides the point that nature doesnt have homosexual reproducing couples. Deicide as a person who believes vehimently in evolution you can surely see the evolutionary dead end that is homosexuality.

homosexuality=pointless.

[Deicide]

LOL homosexuality in nature is but a fraction, you say tons like its normal but its not and you know this. Even with this fact though thats besides the point that nature doesnt have homosexual reproducing couples. Deicide as a person who believes vehimently in evolution you can surely see the evolutionary dead end that is homosexuality.

homosexuality=pointless.

We don't know why homosexuality exists but we do know it does. I don't believe in curtailing other peoples' freedom. If gay people want to adopt then they should be able to. It has no bearing on me or you. Who cares?

[tonymctones]

We don't know why homosexuality exists but we do know it does. I don't believe in curtailing other peoples' freedom. If gay people want to adopt then they should be able to. It has no bearing on me or you. Who cares?

again ppl are made up of nature and nurture meaning that being gay isnt a 100% genetic trait there is some degree of choice in it probably more in some then in others but still there is a choice. When society as a whole begins to feel homosexualtiy is normal, or that there is nothing wrong with homosexuality more ppl will make that choice. Same thing with violence, if it was ok for you to bitch slap stupid ppl without repurcussions, wouldnt you from time to time? You dont simply b/c its not socially acceptable if it was there would be alot more bitch slapping going around and its the same thing for being gay.

[ToxicAvenger]

religious or not if youre against abortion on the grounds that youre killing an innocent child,

i'm pro abortion

[Deicide]

I think the evidence is that it is genetic. Did you 'choose' to like women? Even if it WERE a choice, who cares? Live and let live.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Here's my thing with gay adoption.........is there any research showing that if two gay people adopt gay babies those babies are more likely to be gay?  Does it prove nature vs. nurture?  If it doesn't and kids are no more likely to be gay under gay parents than they are under straight parents who cares?  There are TERRIBLE parents out there.  I'm sure there are a  lot of gay couples who would make great parents.  Look at all the whacked out fucked up single moms out there but I don't see people ostracizing them?  Also as far as god goes I think he could give a fuck who's raising kids as long as there is a need and gay parents do a good job.  Afterall, god is love in the end when you cut through all the religious bullshit.  ALL people gay or straight are capable of love.

[tonymctones]

I think the evidence is that it is genetic. Did you 'choose' to like women? Even if it WERE a choice, who cares? Live and let live.

actually evidence is it has a genetic component to it like most things it is a combination of nature and nuture. Again some ppl have genetic predispositions to violence and addiction just to name two traits. Do you not think that those two traits would not be more rampant if society deemed them ok? of course they would...same thing for homosexuality the more society deems it ok the more ppl will choose to indulge in that trait. Now this may not be a big deal to some who believe homosexuality is ok, but to others who believe homosexuality is not ok why would you assume anything else but for them to oppose any and all actions that try to normalize homosexuality in society?