The biggest natural bodybuilder that ever lived

[EwaBeachBoy]

  Shut up.  That's not being racist.  It's a known fact.  Blacks overall have much better genetics for bodybuilding and all things equal usually respond much better to drugs.  The entire issue goes back to the slave trade.  Why do you think africans make the best runners?  They are physically built much better for it.  I.e. their achilles tie ins etc. 

Oh yeah? Then explain Vince Goodrum!

[MuscleMcMannus]

LMAO!  I said all things being equal.  Every race his it's genetic malfunctions. 

Big Mark C how the hell am I being racist?  Blacks differ in many ways physiologically than whites.  I guess if I say blacks have more melanin than whites that makes me a racist as well?  Idiot.  Why are the black bodybuilders in the history of the sport the biggest?  When was the last time any white guy got to be the size and shape of a Ronnie Coleman?  Jay Cutler isn't even in the same league as Coleman as far as genetics.  Sergio was far and away genetically superior than Arnold.   

When was the last time you ever saw a white version of a Kevin Levrone?  Someone that could literally blow the fuck up in a short amount of time?  Most white bodybuilders take twice as long and have to work twice as hard for the same amount of gains. I.e. Dorian Yates. 

[Eyeball Chambers]

We need to bring affirmative action to bodybuilding for European-Americans!

[Rami]

LMAO!  I said all things being equal.  Every race his it's genetic malfunctions. 

Big Mark C how the hell am I being racist?  Blacks differ in many ways physiologically than whites.  I guess if I say blacks have more melanin than whites that makes me a racist as well?  Idiot.  Why are the black bodybuilders in the history of the sport the biggest?  When was the last time any white guy got to be the size and shape of a Ronnie Coleman?  Jay Cutler isn't even in the same league as Coleman as far as genetics.  Sergio was far and away genetically superior than Arnold.   

When was the last time you ever saw a white version of a Kevin Levrone?  Someone that could literally blow the fuck up in a short amount of time?  Most white bodybuilders take twice as long and have to work twice as hard for the same amount of gains. I.e. Dorian Yates. 

you really believe all of this? or are you just joking?

[Cleanest Natural]

Todd Elliot, he was a WNBF pro bodybuilder in the 1990's.The guy never won that many shows in the WNBF because his conditioning was off, but man he was huge.The only reason I beleive he might be natural is he competed in the WNBF, wich is the most strict natural bodybuilding organization in the world.Steve Down is a stickler, he doesnt let anybody slide.If you fail a drug test they kick you out of the organizationm for 7 years.
Here you go Fellas, the legend himself, big Todd Elliot.Whether you think he is natural or not, he has a really balanced physique, and very round muscle bellies.

you must be one of the biggest LIARS, BULLSHITTERS and dare I say RETARDS TO EVER POST ON GETBIG along with Adonis, Adrain and Meso78

[MuscleMcMannus]

you really believe all of this? or are you just joking?

Most of it is fact.  You look at a young Sergio vs. a young Arnold and Sergio was far and away much more genetically gifted.  The drugs are what helped Arnold play catch up.  Same thing with Bill Pearl.  Have you seen pictures of Sergio at 18?  When was the last time someone white was buit like Vic Richards?  Blacks dominate bodybuilding because of their genetics.  Yes whites dominate world's strongest man but that's an entirely different endeavor.  Most of the biggest strongest white guys in the WSM comps would make the absolute worst bodybuilders and vice versa for black guys.  I mean my god some of the biggest white bodybuilders in the last 10 years have looked like complete shit.  Nasser, Dorian, Ruhl, Priest, Schlierkamp (sp?).  Haha.  Wheeler, Levrone, Coleman, Martinez, Jackson, Heath.  These guys all have amazing physiques.  Cutler?  LMAO!  For every decent white IFBB pro there are 6 black pros just as good.    

I think Dennis Wolf is awesome but he still is barely hanging on with the top IFBB black pros.  It's in the genes.  Get over it.  

[Big_Gunzzzz]

  Shut up.  That's not being racist.  It's a known fact.  Blacks overall have much better genetics for bodybuilding and all things equal usually respond much better to drugs.  The entire issue goes back to the slave trade.  Why do you think africans make the best runners?  They are physically built much better for it.  I.e. their achilles tie ins etc. 

They have smaller hips but also smaller calves.  They have produced the fastest runners.

[MuscleMcMannus]

They have smaller hips but also smaller calves.  They have produced the fastest runners.

Yes and that along with their achilles insertion points etc. create a better ability to run faster.  I mean shit look at Usaine Bolt. 

[Rami]

Most of it is fact.  You look at a young Sergio vs. a young Arnold and Sergio was far and away much more genetically gifted.  The drugs are what helped Arnold play catch up.  Same thing with Bill Pearl.  Have you seen pictures of Sergio at 18?  When was the last time someone white was buit like Vic Richards?  Blacks dominate bodybuilding because of their genetics.  Yes whites dominate world's strongest man but that's an entirely different endeavor.  Most of the biggest strongest white guys in the WSM comps would make the absolute worst bodybuilders and vice versa for black guys.  I mean my god some of the biggest white bodybuilders in the last 10 years have looked like complete shit.  Nasser, Dorian, Ruhl, Priest, Schlierkamp (sp?).  Haha.  Wheeler, Levrone, Coleman, Martinez, Jackson, Heath.  These guys all have amazing physiques.  Cutler?  LMAO!  For every decent white IFBB pro there are 6 black pros just as good.    

I think Dennis Wolf is awesome but he still is barely hanging on with the top IFBB black pros.  It's in the genes.  Get over it.  

It's all subjective. You could use as well say:
Colman pregnant, Levrone Narrow, Heath Narrow, Jackson lacking body parts, Martinez overrated, small shoulders.

While whites tend to have bigger frames and core. I guess it all comes down what you are impressed with. And there is always exceptions.

I'm just trying to see what's real.

[EwaBeachBoy]

Most of it is fact.  You look at a young Sergio vs. a young Arnold and Sergio was far and away much more genetically gifted.  The drugs are what helped Arnold play catch up.  Same thing with Bill Pearl.  Have you seen pictures of Sergio at 18?  When was the last time someone white was buit like Vic Richards?  Blacks dominate bodybuilding because of their genetics.  Yes whites dominate world's strongest man but that's an entirely different endeavor.  Most of the biggest strongest white guys in the WSM comps would make the absolute worst bodybuilders and vice versa for black guys.  I mean my god some of the biggest white bodybuilders in the last 10 years have looked like complete shit.  Nasser, Dorian, Ruhl, Priest, Schlierkamp (sp?).  Haha.  Wheeler, Levrone, Coleman, Martinez, Jackson, Heath.  These guys all have amazing physiques.  Cutler?  LMAO!  For every decent white IFBB pro there are 6 black pros just as good.    

I think Dennis Wolf is awesome but he still is barely hanging on with the top IFBB black pros.  It's in the genes.  Get over it.  

Ok smart guy...explain Vince Goodrum then!

You wont be able to answer that. Looks like the weakest made it on the slave ships too!

[Eyeball Chambers]

Ok smart guy...explain Vince Goodrum then!

You wont be able to answer that. Looks like the weakest made it on the slave ships too!

Breakin the law!! Breakin the law!!!

(honestly, that was an awesome thread!)

[MuscleMcMannus]

Ok smart guy...explain Vince Goodrum then!

You wont be able to answer that. Looks like the weakest made it on the slave ships too!

Dude can you not freaking read?  I said EVERY race has their genetic malfunction.  Goodrum is a perfect example.  No race is perfect.  All things being equal blacks respond better to the drugs plain and simple.  

[EwaBeachBoy]

Breakin the law!! Breakin the law!!!

(honestly, that was an awesome thread!)

Oh Jebus!! I guess breaking the law is going to be my legacy on getbig LOL

[Rami]

  Shut up.  That's not being racist.  It's a known fact.  Blacks overall have much better genetics for bodybuilding and all things equal usually respond much better to drugs.  The entire issue goes back to the slave trade.  Why do you think africans make the best runners?  They are physically built much better for it.  I.e. their achilles tie ins etc. 

About sprinters in general I agree. Especially short distances like 100 meters. But you generalize a little to much.

There is always exceptions for any sport no matter the race.

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I think any athlete has the potential to reach the top in whatever sport. Genetic differences simply does not explain all the differences. There have been good black power lifters and strongmen for example. A lot of it depends on cultural and locational differences and decisions.

[MuscleMcMannus]

About sprinters in general I agree. Especially short distances like 100 meters. But you generalize a little to much.

There is always exceptions for any sport no matter the race.

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I think any athlete has the potential to reach the top in whatever sport. Genetic differences simply does not explain all the differences. There have been good black power lifters and strongmen for example. A lot of it depends on cultural and locational differences and decisions.

Ok but again lets bring it back to bodybuilding.  How come the top bodybuilders have all been black except for Arnold, Cutler, Jay etc.  I mean the biggest bodybuilders have most certainly been black, big as far as muscle.  Hell we can throw sumo wreslters into the mix or 800lb men and say they are the biggest but I'm talking muscle and bodybuilding.  Not olympic lifting, not strongman etc.  Blacks are superior at building muscle and their response to drugs is amazing.  When was the last time you saw a top level Chinese bodybuilder?  And let's not argue there is no interest in the sport.  How about an Arab bodybuilder?  Nasser?  LMAO!  There is something with the way blacks respond to steroids plain and simple that puts them ahead of whites as far as putting on muscle. 

[Meso_z]

natural my ass.

[burn2live]

This.