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What is this strange feeling I have???
« on: April 11, 2009, 11:37:25 PM »
I just started ECA today and I have a euphoric feeling.
In addition, I feel a little lethargic.


Now I'm on t-3, clen and ECA...living the dream.  Clean diet and 60-70 min of cardio per day.
I'm expecting some great results.
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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 01:36:01 AM »
I just started ECA today and I have a euphoric feeling.
In addition, I feel a little lethargic.


Now I'm on t-3, clen and ECA...living the dream.  Clean diet and 60-70 min of cardio per day.
I'm expecting some great results.

Baby Wiggs......

Ephedrine gives you a meth-like high followed by a down affect several hours later.

That's typical and one of the reasons I don't like using it much.

You're not living the dream until you've tasted Sasha Gray's tight white ass, bro.

That's living a dream.   ;D


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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 01:43:31 AM »
I have a euphoric feeling.

Plazmosis?

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2009, 01:44:53 AM »
Plazmosis?

At least you changed your avatar......

That Wesley Snipes shit was getting old......   ;D



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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2009, 01:46:36 AM »
At least you changed your avatar......

That Wesley Snipes shit was getting old......   ;D



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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2009, 01:50:00 AM »
True, Im in NBA mode at the moment, will have to change it after the finals

Perhaps you can get baby Wiggs to change his.



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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2009, 01:56:45 AM »
Perhaps you can get baby Wiggs to change his.



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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2009, 09:31:01 AM »
I just started ECA today and I have a euphoric feeling.
In addition, I feel a little lethargic.


Now I'm on t-3, clen and ECA...living the dream.  Clean diet and 60-70 min of cardio per day.
I'm expecting some great results.

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=263894.0

Vet was on here a while back talking about the guaifenesin, and how it is used as an anesthetic drug in large animals. He also said It has distinct sedative properties and causes muscle relaxation, and that sedation is a common side effect in humans. There have been times when I have taken Ephedrine with Guafenisin and have fallen asleep, or become very sleepy, even before the drug had a chance to start wearing off. Ive often wondered if this is the cause of the lethargy, since Vet spoke on this.

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2009, 09:52:26 AM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=263894.0

Vet was on here a while back talking about the guaifenesin, and how it is used as an anesthetic drug in large animals. He also said It has distinct sedative properties and causes muscle relaxation, and that sedation is a common side effect in humans. There have been times when I have taken Ephedrine with Guafenisin and have fallen asleep, or become very sleepy, even before the drug had a chance to start wearing off. Ive often wondered if this is the cause of the lethargy, since Vet spoke on this.

I couldn't find any evidence for it having sedative properties in humans. Like I said it's not listed as a side effect. Haven't noticed that side myself either.

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #9 on: April 12, 2009, 10:30:11 AM »
I couldn't find any evidence for it having sedative properties in humans. Like I said it's not listed as a side effect. Haven't noticed that side myself either.

Yeah I just read that in the link that I posted. I just found it quite interesting that Vet had mentioned that effect, because I feel lethargic on ephedrine sometimes. Not all the time, just sometimes. Its not the crash, because sometimes I feel pretty sleepy 20 - 30 minutes after taking a 50mg dose.

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #10 on: April 12, 2009, 12:10:13 PM »
Baby Wiggs......

Ephedrine gives you a meth-like high followed by a down affect several hours later.

That's typical and one of the reasons I don't like using it much.

You're not living the dream until you've tasted Sasha Gray's tight white ass, bro.

That's living a dream.   ;D


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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2009, 12:41:02 PM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=263894.0

Vet was on here a while back talking about the guaifenesin, and how it is used as an anesthetic drug in large animals. He also said It has distinct sedative properties and causes muscle relaxation, and that sedation is a common side effect in humans. There have been times when I have taken Ephedrine with Guafenisin and have fallen asleep, or become very sleepy, even before the drug had a chance to start wearing off. Ive often wondered if this is the cause of the lethargy, since Vet spoke on this.

Damn! I have this to going on when i take bronkaid!

I feel sleepy and lethargic, and YES sometimes i have fallen asleep too....

I have always wondered, how come i get all these, isn't ephedrine supposed to be a stimulant?  ???

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #12 on: April 12, 2009, 02:00:19 PM »
Yeah I just read that in the link that I posted. I just found it quite interesting that Vet had mentioned that effect, because I feel lethargic on ephedrine sometimes. Not all the time, just sometimes. Its not the crash, because sometimes I feel pretty sleepy 20 - 30 minutes after taking a 50mg dose.

I get that a lot, even with just caffeine. Depends on the time of day I take stimulants, how much sleep I've gotten, what I've eaten etc. Some of the best naps I've taken have been after taking stimulants.  :D Like today, got up and took some, checked the net and went back to sleep for a couple of hours.

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #13 on: April 12, 2009, 02:47:01 PM »
Perhaps you can get baby Wiggs to change his.



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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #14 on: April 12, 2009, 07:06:42 PM »
Yeah I just read that in the link that I posted. I just found it quite interesting that Vet had mentioned that effect, because I feel lethargic on ephedrine sometimes. Not all the time, just sometimes. Its not the crash, because sometimes I feel pretty sleepy 20 - 30 minutes after taking a 50mg dose.
not all ephedrine has that in it but the bronkaid does and i also noticed that musinex has 1200mg of guafisin whatever that word is....... i still aint found out what it is but i have noticed on bronkaid and hydroxycut original that i will get sleepy sometimes

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #15 on: April 13, 2009, 11:14:42 AM »
I couldn't find any evidence for it having sedative properties in humans. Like I said it's not listed as a side effect. Haven't noticed that side myself either.

Guaifenisen is one of those strange drugs....   Its commonly used for one purpose in veterinary medicine across multiple species, but you have a hard time finding a reference to it having the same use in human medicine.  There are limited references since the 1960's using it as a sedative type drug in humans.  I think for the simple fact that it really has no analgesic properties.  If you compare human and veterinary anesthesia, human anesthesia has a very strong curve towards drugs and combinations that provide at least some form of analgesia.  In veterinary medicine, thats often overlooked and honestly, is only recently being considered.   Traditionally the approach was to "keep em down".   There are still heated debate to the degree of pain some species "feels".     

Guaifenisen is commonly combined with opoids also in human medicine.  Sedation is listed as a side effect of these combination drugs, but its not specified if its due to the guaifenisen or the opoid.   

This drug is used too often for its sedative/muscle relaxing in too many species in veterinary medicine for me to think that it doesn't have a similar effect on humans. 

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #16 on: April 13, 2009, 11:19:14 AM »
I get that a lot, even with just caffeine. Depends on the time of day I take stimulants, how much sleep I've gotten, what I've eaten etc. Some of the best naps I've taken have been after taking stimulants.  :D Like today, got up and took some, checked the net and went back to sleep for a couple of hours.

Thats the "caffeine crash". 

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #17 on: April 13, 2009, 02:42:37 PM »

Guaifenisen is commonly combined with opoids also in human medicine.  Sedation is listed as a side effect of these combination drugs, but its not specified if its due to the guaifenisen or the opoid.  


Check the pure guaifenesin drugs. Only listed side is an allergic reaction.

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Re: What is this strange feeling I have???
« Reply #18 on: April 13, 2009, 02:44:27 PM »
Thats the "caffeine crash". 

Well, I get it within the first 1-2 hours, just when it starts peaking.

In the elderly caffeine actually helps them sleep.