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Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« on: April 12, 2009, 07:46:54 PM »
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updated 12:40 p.m. EDT, Sun April 12, 2009
Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage

By Mohammed Jamjoom
CNN

(CNN) -- A Saudi judge has refused for a second time to annul a marriage between an 8-year-old girl and a 47-year-old man, a relative of the girl told CNN.

The most recent ruling, in which the judge upheld his original verdict, was handed down Saturday in the Saudi city of Onaiza, where late last year the same judge rejected a petition from the girl's mother, who was seeking a divorce for her daughter.

The relative said the judge, Sheikh Habib Al-Habib, "stuck by his earlier verdict and insisted that the girl could petition the court for a divorce once she reached puberty." The family member, who requested anonymity, added that the mother will continue to pursue a divorce for her daughter.

The case, which has drawn criticism from local and international rights groups, came to light in December when al-Habib declined to annul the marriage on a legal technicality. The judge ruled the girl's mother -- who is separated from the girl's father -- was not the girl's legal guardian and therefore could not represent her in court, according to Abdullah al-Jutaili, the mother's lawyer.

The girl's father, according to the attorney, arranged the marriage in order to settle his debts with the man, who is "a close friend" of his. At the time of the initial verdict, the judge required the girl's husband to sign a pledge that he would not have sex with her until she reaches puberty, al-Jutaili told CNN. The judge ruled that when the girl reaches puberty, she will have the right to request a divorce by filing a petition with the court, the lawyer said.

Last month, an appeals court in the Saudi capital of Riyadh declined to certify the original ruling, in essence rejecting al-Habib's verdict, and sent the case back to al-Habib for reconsideration.

Under the complicated Saudi legal process, the appeals court ruling meant that the marriage was still in effect, but that a challenge to the marriage was still ongoing. The appeals court in Riyadh will now take up the case again and a hearing is scheduled for next month, according to the relative.

The issue of child marriage has been a hot-button topic in the deeply conservative kingdom recently. While rights groups have been petitioning the government to enact laws that would protect children from this type of marriage, the kingdom's top cleric has said that it's OK for girls as young as 10 to wed.

"It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's grand mufti, said in remarks last January quoted in the regional Al-Hayat newspaper. "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her."

Al-Sheikh reportedly made the remarks when he was asked during a lecture about parents forcing their underage daughters to marry.

"We hear a lot in the media about the marriage of underage girls," he said, according to the newspaper. "We should know that Sharia law has not brought injustice to women."

Sharia law is Islamic law. Saudi Arabia follows a strict interpretation of Islam called Wahhabism.

CNN was unable to reach government officials for comment.

Christoph Wilcke, a Saudi Arabia researcher for Human Rights Watch, told CNN in December that his organization has heard of many other cases of child marriages.

"We've been hearing about these types of cases once every four or five months because the Saudi public is now able to express this kind of anger -- especially so when girls are traded off to older men," Wilcke said.

Wilcke explained that while Saudi ministries may make decisions designed to protect children, "It is still the religious establishment that holds sway in the courts, and in many realms beyond the court."

Last December, Zuhair al-Harithi, a spokesman for the Saudi government-run Human Rights Commission, said his organization is fighting against child marriages.

"The Human Rights Commission opposes child marriages in Saudi Arabia," al-Harithi said. "Child marriages violate international agreements that have been signed by Saudi Arabia and should not be allowed." He added that his organization has been able to intervene and stop at least one child marriage from taking place.

Wajeha al-Huwaider, co-founder of the Society of Defending Women's Rights in Saudi Arabia, told CNN that achieving human rights in the kingdom means standing against those who want to "keep us backward and in the dark ages."

She said the marriages cause girls to "lose their sense of security and safety. Also, it destroys their feeling of being loved and nurtured. It causes them a lifetime of psychological problems and severe depression."

http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/12/saudi.child.marriage/index.html

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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2009, 11:05:58 PM »

"It is incorrect to say that it's not permitted to marry off girls who are 15 and younger," Sheikh Abdul Aziz Al-Sheikh, the kingdom's grand mufti, said in remarks last January quoted in the regional Al-Hayat newspaper. "A girl aged 10 or 12 can be married. Those who think she's too young are wrong and they are being unfair to her."

Al-Sheikh reportedly made the remarks when he was asked during a lecture about parents forcing their underage daughters to marry.

"We hear a lot in the media about the marriage of underage girls," he said, according to the newspaper. "We should know that Sharia law has not brought injustice to women."


I had to shake my head at this quote.  Apparently "justice" means different things to different people.

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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2009, 11:16:15 PM »
So besides being cowards and collectively borderline retarded, we can now add pedofilia to the list of islamic wonders....

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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2009, 03:43:07 AM »
So besides being cowards and collectively borderline retarded, we can now add pedofilia to the list of islamic wonders....

Muhammads example is the finest there could ever been as a muslim, so it's only logical muslim men use his example of marrying 6 year old Aisha and consummating the marriage when she was 9 and he was 50+.
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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2009, 07:25:39 AM »
The religion of peace, tolerance and child rape.

Lets look at a day of leisure for someone in Saudi Arabia. Monday: Wake up and have sex with my 8 year old wife. Then go to mosque for morning prayer. Then go to the noon beheadings where someone stole a piece of bread. Then go to mosque for afternoon prayer.  Afterward, rape a foreign female who made the mistake of speaking to me without being in the presence of two male relatives. Then go to mosque for night prayer. Afterward, go to the corner hooka lounge and discuss with my male friends about how much I hate America. 

Rest of week: Repeat Monday.

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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2009, 01:54:50 PM »
The religion of peace, tolerance and child rape.

Lets look at a day of leisure for someone in Saudi Arabia. Monday: Wake up and have sex with my 8 year old wife. Then go to mosque for morning prayer. Then go to the noon beheadings where someone stole a piece of bread. Then go to mosque for afternoon prayer.  Afterward, rape a foreign female who made the mistake of speaking to me without being in the presence of two male relatives. Then go to mosque for night prayer. Afterward, go to the corner hooka lounge and discuss with my male friends about how much I hate America. 

Rest of week: Repeat Monday.
You forgot the part about also doing some serious business with USA and being best friends with the Bush family.
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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2009, 01:57:17 PM »
The religion of peace, tolerance and child rape.

Lets look at a day of leisure for someone in Saudi Arabia. Monday: Wake up and have sex with my 8 year old wife. Then go to mosque for morning prayer. Then go to the noon beheadings where someone stole a piece of bread. Then go to mosque for afternoon prayer.  Afterward, rape a foreign female who made the mistake of speaking to me without being in the presence of two male relatives. Then go to mosque for night prayer. Afterward, go to the corner hooka lounge and discuss with my male friends about how much I hate America. 

Rest of week: Repeat Monday.

This would be funny if it wasn't true.   :-\

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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2009, 04:59:42 PM »
You forgot the part about also doing some serious business with USA and being best friends with the Bush family.

Your average Joe ( or Ahmed) in Saudi Arabia does serious business with the USA and is best friends with the Bush Family? Is it just the Bush family, or every modern American President? Obama also?

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Re: Saudi judge refuses to annul 8-year-old's marriage
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2009, 12:23:13 PM »
8-year-old Saudi girl divorces 50-year-old husband 
Posted 4/30/2009 1:49 PM ET 

By Hadeel Al-Shalchi, Associated Press Writer
CAIRO — An 8-year-old Saudi girl has divorced her middle-aged husband after her father forced her to marry him last year in exchange for about $13,000, her lawyer said Thursday.
Saudi Arabia has come under increasing criticism at home and abroad for permitting child marriages. The United States, a close ally of the conservative Muslim kingdom, has called child marriage a "clear and unacceptable" violation of human rights.

The girl was allowed to divorce the 50-year-old man who she married in August after an out-of-court settlement had been reached in the case, said her lawyer, Abdulla al-Jeteli. The exact date of the divorce was not immediately known.

A court in the central Oneiza region previously rejected a request by the girl's mother for a divorce and ruled that the girl would have to wait until she reached puberty to file a petition then.

There are no laws in Saudi Arabia defining the minimum age for marriage. Though a woman's consent is legally required, some marriage officials don't seek it.

But there has been a push by Saudi human rights groups to define the age of marriage and put an end to the phenomenon.

One Saudi human rights activist Sohaila Zain al-Abdeen was optimistic that the girl's divorce would help efforts to get a law passed enforcing a minimum marriage age of 18.

"Unfortunately, some fathers trade their daughters," she told The Associated Press. "They are weak people who are sometimes in need of money and forget their roles as parents."

It was not clear if the man received money for the divorce settlement. The man had given the girl's father 50,000 riyals, or about $13,350, as a marriage gift in return for his daughter, the lawyer said.

The 8-year-old girl's marriage was not the only one in the kingdom to receive attention in recent months. Saudi newspapers have highlighted several cases in which young girls were married off to much older men or young boys including a 15-year-old girl whose father, a death-row inmate, married her off to a cell mate.

Saudi Arabia's conservative Muslim clergy have opposed the drive to end child marriages. In January, the kingdom's most senior cleric said it was permissible for 10-year-old girls to marry and those who believe they are too young are doing the girls an injustice.

But some in the government appear to support the movement to set a minimum age for marriage. The kingdom's new justice minister was quoted in mid-April as saying the government was doing a study on underage marriage that would include regulations.

There are no statistics to show how many marriages involving children are performed in Saudi Arabia every year. Activists say the girls are given away in return for hefty marriage gifts or as a result of long-standing custom in which a father promises his infant daughters and sons to cousins out of a belief that marriage will protect them from illicit relationships.

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