how much fat do I need to lose? (pics)

[Stormspirit]

this is the best i can do, it was hard to take these pics and not have my arm block the camera, this was on my laptop.  i have never dieted before in life , i know shirtless full body pics would be best but i assume you guys can roughly tell how much fat i need to lose to get down to say, 10-11%bf. right now i am assuming 20lbs.  i can suck in my stomach and have no gut.

[Stavios]

hard to say, you should post a full bodyshot.

from this pics, 20-30lbs

[Mars]

till theres a good outline of abbs visible. midsection has to look powerfull, that also means you dont have to be shredded overthere. but the midsection absolutely make or break the physique, how often you dont see guys on the beach with nice arms and chest but a wide waist without abbs. the skinny tit with abbs walking around with a beachball looks hundred times better.

[johnnynoname]

to get to 10%, i would say like 20 pounds

you lose 40 and you will give me a run for my money
you lose 50 and i'm gonna start sticking my finger down my throat

[BigIronPete]

40 pounds at least. Need a clear upper body shot.

[kiwiol]

40 pounds at least. Need a clear upper body shot.

Agreed. Somewhere between 40 - 50 lb.

P.S: Adonis will most likely say 120 lb

[Stormspirit]

hard to say, you should post a full bodyshot.

from this pics, 20-30lbs

i hold most all my fat in my midsection,best i can say for now, it would be impossible for me to take full body pic.  i seriously hope it is not 30lbs i have to lose to get to 10-11%, that would be losing like 13-15% bodyfat.i didnt think i am over 20%bf

to get to 10%, i would say like 20 pounds

you lose 40 and you will give me a run for my money
you lose 50 and i'm gonna start sticking my finger down my throat

haha

40 pounds at least. Need a clear upper body shot.

jesus christ dude, no fucking way i need to lose 40lbs to get to 10%.

[Stormspirit]

Agreed. Somewhere between 40 - 50 lb.

P.S: Adonis will most likely say 120 lb

dude, if i lost 40-50lbs that would be like losing 20% bodyfat. theres no way i am 30% or over

[io856]

60lbs

[BigIronPete]

i hold most all my fat in my midsection,best i can say for now, it would be impossible for me to take full body pic.  i seriously hope it is not 30lbs i have to lose to get to 10-11%, that would be losing like 13-15% bodyfat.i didnt think i am over 20%bfhahajesus christ dude, no fucking way i need to lose 40lbs to get to 10%.

To get abs you need to lose at least 40 pounds. You are at least 20% bf, pushing 25%. The arm pic you posted has a lot of FAT on it. You have NO leg definiton either.
Part of wanting to get lean is not being DELUSIONAL about that amount fat you hold.
You didn't post a topless pic because you most likely have a lot of chest fat - manboobs.

[BigIronPete]

dude, if i lost 40-50lbs that would be like losing 20% bodyfat. theres no way i am 30% or over

You are assuming all you would lose is fat. You would also LOSE muscle.

[Stormspirit]

To get abs you need to lose at least 40 pounds. You are at least 20% bf, pushing 25%. The arm pic you posted has a lot of FAT on it. You have NO leg definiton either.
Part of wanting to get lean is not being DELUSIONAL about that amount fat you hold.
You didn't post a topless pic because you most likely have a lot of chest fat - manboobs.

no i have no manboobs at all i am not a fat whale dude, take my word for it. and my arm is not fat it's just not defined like at low bf.i just cannot take a pic from far away because i have to press my keyboard on my laptop.  my fat is mainly in my stomach you are right I don't have definition in my legs at all. I figured I am about 20%BF.  you can see abs at 10-11%? i just want to get fairly lean, not contest shape

[kiwiol]

dude, if i lost 40-50lbs that would be like losing 20% bodyfat. theres no way i am 30% or over

How heavy are you now and how tall? You are assuming that you only need to drop 20 lb to get under 10%, but you look like you are carrying a fair bit of bodyfat - you have absolutely no definition and based on your pics, it looks like you are sitting around 20 - 22% bodyfat. And as BigIronPete says, you will also drop a fair bit of water and lose muscle when you finally get to 10%.

So yeah, I'd say you have around 45 lb to lose, to get that lean.

[BigIronPete]

no i have no manboobs at all i am not a fat whale dude, take my word for it. i just cannot take a pic from far away because i have to press my keyboard on my laptop.  my fat is mainly in my stomach you are right I don't have definition in my legs at all. I figured I am about 20%BF.  you can see abs at 10-11%? i just want to get fairly lean, not contest shape

You took the arm pic with a camera phone. Use that to take a shirtless pic.

[BigIronPete]

How heavy are you now and how tall? You are assuming that they only need to drop 20 lb to get under 10%, but you look like you are carrying a fair bit of bodyfat - you have absolutely no definition and based on your pics, it looks like you are sitting around 20 - 22% bodyfat. And as BigIronPete says, you will also drop a fair bit of water and lose muscle when you finally get to 10%.

So yeah, I'd say you have around 45 lb to lose, to get that lean.

He doesn't have any real muscle either. No muscle maturity so when he drops the fat a lot of muscle will go.

[johnnynoname]

just lose 20 and work on the tan

TADA

[Stormspirit]

You took the arm pic with a camera phone. Use that to take a shirtless pic.

no it costs me money to send to my email and is too much hassle. when my roomate gets home i may have him take a pic for me from my laptop

He doesn't have any real muscle either. No muscle maturity so when he drops the fat a lot of muscle will go.

that's bullshit, my muscle is solid,from over 4 years training, albeit i just started training again 6 months ago after 1 year off.. theres no way you can tell i don't have any real muscle

[spinnis]

about 10kg probably

[Stormspirit]

How heavy are you now and how tall? You are assuming that they only need to drop 20 lb to get under 10%, but you look like you are carrying a fair bit of bodyfat - you have absolutely no definition and based on your pics, it looks like you are sitting around 20 - 22% bodyfat. And as BigIronPete says, you will also drop a fair bit of water and lose muscle when you finally get to 10%.

So yeah, I'd say you have around 45 lb to lose, to get that lean.

i am 230 and 6 feet tall. i know i will lose muscle too, i figure i would be at about 200 by the end of diet,no i have no definition i am smooth as a baby.

[spinnis]

i am taking some anavar a friend gave me,80mg daily. he said it helps burn fat on teh stomach and preserve muscle

anavar can be a bitch on your libido if you're unlucky though

[kiwiol]

He doesn't have any real muscle either. No muscle maturity so when he drops the fat a lot of muscle will go.

I agree. Stormspirit, I'm not trying to flame you or anything - just giving you my opinion. If you are 230 lb now, that's you at around 22% bodyfat. So losing 12% implies losing about 25 - 30 lb of fat alone. Then you'll lose about 8 - 10 lb of water and about 12 - 15 lb of muscle, which is what I suggested in my post earlier.

Check this out

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=275752.msg3890250#msg3890250

This guy lost 14 kg and he's leaner at his start than what you wish to be. So I do think you will end up somewhere around 180 at 10%. I'm also curious to see what others have to say on the subject.

[Method101]

fuck getting lean, go for this physique

[io856]

anavar can be a bitch on your libido if you're unlucky though

what would you know

[Stormspirit]

I agree. Stormspirit, I'm not trying to flame you or anything - just giving you my opinion. If you are 230 lb now, that's you at around 22% bodyfat. So losing 12% implies losing about 28 lb of fat alone. Then you'll lose about 8 - 10 lb of water and about 12 - 15 lb of muscle, which is what I suggested in my post earlier.

Check this out

http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=275752.msg3890250#msg3890250

This guy lost 14 kg and he's leaner at his start than what you wish to be. So I do think you will end up somewhere around 180 at 10%. I'm also curious to see what others have to say on the subject.

you think your muscle starts wasting away like even from higher BF?  from what ive read getting those last few pounds or %s of BF is when your muscle starts wasting away a lot...i dont want to get into contest shape, id be happy with his first or second picture. oh well, how long realistically do you think it will take for me to get to around 11-12% bf? i am eating about 1500-1800 calories a day and doing about 3 hours of cardio a week

[Method101]

you think your muscle starts wasting away like even from higher BF?  from what ive read getting those last few pounds or %s of BF is when your muscle starts wasting away a lot...i dont want to get into contest shape, id be happy with his first or second picture. oh well, how long realistically do you think it will take for me to get to around 11-12% bf? i am eating about 1500-1800 calories a day and doing about 3 hours of cardio a week

up the calories to 2300 atleast....
do 30 min cardio per day.