Kim Kardashian on cover of M&F Hers backlash???

[MCWAY]

This sounds similar to Shawn Ray's complaints, everytime FLEX put a muscular WWE wrestler on the cover of FLEX.

FLEX is about guys with big muscles (granted, most of them are IFBB pros or NPC top amateurs). But, I have no issue with Triple H, John Cena, or Batista being featured on the cover.

By that same token, I don't see a huge problem with Kardashian being on Muscle & Fitness-Hers, every now and again.

At least, the fitness girls don't have to worry about losing at least 2 covers a years to Cory Everson or Rachel McClish, the way male bodybuilders lose multiple cover opportunities in the muscle magazines to Arnold (who hasn't competed in nearly 30 years).

[tu_holmes]

This sounds similar to Shawn Ray's complaints, everytime FLEX put a muscular WWE wrestler on the cover of FLEX.

FLEX is about guys with big muscles (granted, most of them are IFBB pros or NPC top amateurs). But, I have no issue with Triple H, John Cena, or Batista being featured on the cover.

By that same token, I don't see a huge problem with Kardashian being on Muscle & Fitness-Hers, every now and again.

At least, the fitness girls don't have to worry about losing at least 2 covers a years to Cory Everson or Rachel McClish, the way male bodybuilders lose multiple cover opportunities in the muscle magazines to Arnold (who hasn't competed in nearly 30 years).

I still see a Cory cover every couple of years... Usually in a Ironman or something.

Woman still looks fucking hot at what, about 50?

[MCWAY]

I still see a Cory cover every couple of years... Usually in a Ironman or something.

Woman still looks fucking hot at what, about 50?

Key words: EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS!

Arnold will be on the cover of the mags at least four times this year. He's already hit M&F. Ironman is a lock (they do one on him every July issue, since that's his birth month).

FLEX is still on deck, with MuscleMag right behind it.

MD is perhaps the only major publication that doesn't get a case of the Schwarzeneegers every year. But, if sales slump, look for that to happen.

[tu_holmes]

Key words: EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS!

Arnold will be on the cover of the mags at least four times this year. He's already hit M&F. Ironman is a lock (they do one on him every July issue, since that's his birth month).

FLEX is still on deck, with MuscleMag right behind it.

MD is perhaps the only major publication that doesn't get a case of the Schwarzeneegers every year. But, if sales slump, look for that to happen.

I was not disagreeing with you McWay... I was just making a statement. You are correct.

[MCWAY]

I was not disagreeing with you McWay... I was just making a statement. You are correct.

I never got the impression that you disagreed.

I guess my point is that the fitness ladies can be thankful that they don't have to deal with losing multiple covers on multiple magazines to someone who hasn't competed in DECADES, as the male bodybuilders do.

[tu_holmes]

I never got the impression that you disagreed.

I guess my point is that the fitness ladies can be thankful that they don't have to deal with losing multiple covers on multiple magazines to someone who hasn't competed in DECADES, as the male bodybuilders do.

True, but the fitness physique is much more mainstream (or at least acceptable) than today's freak bodybuilder physiques.

Arnold's physique is much more accepted to the average person on the street than pretty much any guy in Flex or MD today. It's the best way to sell magazines to the average person.

Just saying it's a reason.

[MCWAY]

True, but the fitness physique is much more mainstream (or at least acceptable) than today's freak bodybuilder physiques.

Arnold's physique is much more accepted to the average person on the street than pretty much any guy in Flex or MD today. It's the best way to sell magazines to the average person.

Just saying it's a reason.

I wouldn't say "much more accepted"; in fact, I'm not so sure I'd even say accepted. Case in point: A couple of years ago, I bought the July issue of IronMan with Arnold on the cover (mainly because it's one of the few I've seen with him in color). The cashier, who rang me up, took one look at the cover and gave her unsoliticed opinion, "That's nasty!!"

Keep in mind that this is Arnold, not Ronnie, Jay, Dexter, or Dennis (Wolf).

[tu_holmes]

I wouldn't say "much more accepted"; in fact, I'm not so sure I'd even say accepted. Case in point: A couple of years ago, I bought the July issue of IronMan with Arnold on the cover (mainly because it's one of the few I've seen with him in color). The cashier, who rang me up, took one look at the cover and gave her unsoliticed opinion, "That's nasty!!"

Keep in mind that this is Arnold, not Ronnie, Jay, Dexter, or Dennis (Wolf).

Was that a male or female cashier?

I'm saying more people think it's ok to look like arnold than any of the guys today... Arnold wasn't considered a freak when he was making terminator... Huge yes... but not so ridiculously massive and disgusting.

[24KT]

Man, calfzilla would like him some Kim K.   

Sorry calfzilla, ....you're going to have to get through Reggie Bush first. 

[calfzilla]

Sorry calfzilla, ....you're going to have to get through Reggie Bush first. 

Reggie has nothing on me.  He's just an NFL player...I'm a getbigger.   

[Montague]

Reggie has nothing on me.  He's just an NFL player...I'm a getbigger.   

You’re a "god" among insects.

[MCWAY]

Was that a male or female cashier?

I'm saying more people think it's ok to look like arnold than any of the guys today... Arnold wasn't considered a freak when he was making terminator... Huge yes... but not so ridiculously massive and disgusting.

The cashier gave her unsolicited opinion.

 

Arnold was a bit smaller in Terminator, than he was in his competitive prime, and he was clothed virtually all of the movie.

The cover of IronMan I purchased has Arnold in his prime (albeit in them fruity orange trunks with the white flowers).

But, your point is well made

[tu_holmes]

The cashier gave her unsolicited opinion.

 

Arnold was a bit smaller in Terminator, than he was in his competitive prime, and he was clothed virtually all of the movie.

The cover of IronMan I purchased has Arnold in his prime (albeit in them fruity orange trunks with the white flowers).

But, your point is well made

Those damn chicks... How fat was this female cashier?

[Migs]

Kim has a great body.


i'd hit it!

 

[wild willie]

Kim has a great body.


i'd hit it!

 

X2

[MCWAY]

Those damn chicks... How fat was this female cashier?

Actually, she was rather cute: Young brown-skinned black woman, with a backside that rivals that of Miss Kardashian.

[divcom]

Sorry calfzilla, ....you're going to have to get through Reggie Bush first. 

another knee op and he want have a problem taking his roster spot

[Childish///AMG]

Kim is cute, decent bod "Enuff" said

[Butterbean]

She is a gorgeous girl

[240 is Back]

same reason why they put wrestlers on the cover of FLEX.  More mainstream = greater sales.

[24KT]

Loyalty is admirable, but not always practical.

I don’t care how much and in how many different ways CL tries to defend himself & his publisher.

M&F’s bottom line responsibility is to its paying readers – whoever they are, and whatever their preferences.
There’s only one way to gauge how well this ploy works, and that is to go by the numbers.

If sales drop for that month, then M&F learns a hard lesson that they will hopefully be wise enough to not repeat.

If they sell significantly more copies with Kim on the cover, then it means they gave the customers what they wanted, and it doesn’t matter how disgruntled a handful of people on a message board are, because they obviously don’t represent the masses.
And if you argue that those increased numbers don’t count because they’re new readers and not the loyal “regulars,” then you’re WRONG.

EVERYBODY who pays is a customer, and increasing customer base is good for business.

They may get a few loyalists who boycott, but boycotts are often only temporary, and many will be weakened when the protestors need their fix of what the rest of the magazine offers, and they realize it’s just a f###ing cover.

I have to agree with Montague on this one. Kim Kardashian is a beautiful girl and I don't see why she shouldn't be a cover model. They are about selling magazines, and putting a celebrity on the cover often does that. It's not like they're putting RoseAnn  or someone who does not exemplify the image their magazine is all about. Kim also has the ability to attract a more mainstream readership. I say GO FOR IT, and I hope her debut cover has a successful run.

How do you guys feel about MensHealth often choosing to put celebrity non-athletes on their covers (fully clothed)?

[Montague]

I have to agree with Montague on this one.

Thanks, sweety.

How do you guys feel about MensHealth often choosing to put celebrity non-athletes on their covers (fully clothed)?

No big deal.
But then again, I lived through seeing Dennis Franz's naked hairy cop ass on TV years ago, so...
Everything else seems pretty tame after that.

[nzmusclemonster]

Nudes?

[Benny B]

Nudes?

There's a home made sex video with her and Ray J that's been all over the internet for a couple of years. If you are interested just make google your friend.

[Migs]

the fact she looks like a woman is nice.  I don't like the hard core looking women, or super dry women.  Kim looks fantastic there and I think appeals to both sexes more than BB girls, powerlifter girls and really dry, veiny girls.  IMO