i can see where alot of people are comming from here,, as alot of the old timers were the ones who started the whole 'steroids are a finishing touch' bullshit......i think it would be fair to say that arnold probly used the whole time he was in training from 15 to whenever... and if u cant except that you have a serious problem with the real world
He was a hyper responder and had great genetics for bodybuilding, as have all top pier pros...