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new super diet - the hcg diet !
« on: April 21, 2009, 07:31:28 AM »
Anyone here heard of this ?



What is the hCG Diet?

The "true" hCG weight loss diet protocol, researched and developed by Dr. ATW Simeons, consists of a very low calorie diet (VLCD) accompanied by treatments of hCG taken by injections.

While participating in the hCG diet one can expect a loss of .5 to 2 pounds of unwanted fat per day. In addition, the true benefit of the hCG protocol is its ability to help modify the dieter's relationship with food and eating, resulting in easily maintained, long-term weight loss.

hCG stands for Human Chorionic Gonadotropin, a hormone produced in great amounts in pregnant females. During pregnancy, the substance almost completely controls the woman's metabolic functions. In non-pregnant persons, research suggests hCG similarly increases the metabolism similar to a pregnant female.

Dr. Simeons' research resulted in concluding that there were 3 different types of fat stored in the body:

- Structural Fat (between organs, etc.)
- Normal Fat (freely used for fuel when needed)
- Abnormal Fat (locked away and not available for use by the metabolism until the other 2 kinds of fat are depleted)

Diets don't normally work for those with Abnormal Fat stores because they lose the wrong kind of fat while dieting. HCG works at the metabolic level to release these abnormal fat stores into the bloodstream to be used as fuel, and this is why a VLCD (very low calorie diet) is needed to accompany the HCG dosage.

Thousands of calories in stored fat are released, and are used by the body or expelled. To keep the fat cells from immediately taking in more fat, the very low fat VLCD is necessary, and personal care products such as lotions and makeup containing animal fat are discouraged. Hcg wants to remove unwanted fat from your body and the fats in make-up, lotions and other such products will diminish optimal results.

Dr. A.T.W. Simeons' research suggests a small, daily injection amount of hCG (approx. 125 IU to 200 IU), results in an average weight loss of .5 to 2 lbs a day when accompanied by a VLCD (very low calorie diet). The hCG injections help stave off any hunger pangs a VLCD may cause because thousands of extra calories begin to flood the system from the abnormal fat being metabolized, so hCG diets are easier to stick to than a traditional healthy diet that simply restricts calories.

The first report on the use of hCG diet for the management of obesity was published in 1954 by the late Dr. ATW Simeons. While practicing in India, he noticed that the so-called "fat boys," who showed Adiposogenital dystrophy showed improvement when they were treated with hCG. But he also observed their body fat distribution and he felt it needed further research.

Dr. Simeons extended his investigations to patients showing different degrees of obesity, and concluded that hCG might be useful for the treatment of obesity due to various encourgaging observations sunsequently leading to his confidence in publishing these resutls for his peers. Shortly thereafter, Dr. Simeons and his family relocated to Rome, Italy where he began to expand his practice into the treatment of obesity.

After the first report on hCG use for obesity treatment, an innumerable amount Physicians all over the world visited Dr. Simeons in Italy, to learn first hand the hCG original protocol. Many of them failed because they altered his protocol.

Dr. Simeons suggested that the hCG diet, acting at hypothalamic level, might correct the basic hypothalamic disorder, and consequently adipose tissue metabolism.
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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2009, 07:33:38 AM »
bwhahaahahah, why the fuck would any sane guy inject hormones that make him feel like a pregnant woman?

Just go running, you lazy bastard.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2009, 07:36:12 AM »
its what bb use to increase test production in the testes.

i imagine a weekly shot of test would have the same effect.
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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2009, 07:37:52 AM »
its what bb use to increase test production in the testes.

i imagine a weekly shot of test would have the same effect.

I know, but why should you inject any hormones into your body when you can reach the same by running and eating right and being healthier by doing that as opposed to causing god knows what by injecting.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2009, 07:38:25 AM »
The Clen, Winny, Tren diet is better.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2009, 07:40:09 AM »
I know, but why should you inject any hormones into your body when you can reach the same by running and eating right and being healthier by doing that as opposed to causing god knows what by injecting.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2009, 07:40:54 AM »
The Clen, Winny, Tren diet is better.

builds more muscle as well i would say.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #7 on: April 21, 2009, 07:41:22 AM »
I know, but why should you inject any hormones into your body when you can reach the same by running and eating right and being healthier by doing that as opposed to causing god knows what by injecting.

AHAHAHAHA! FEIGE!

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #8 on: April 21, 2009, 07:42:28 AM »
I know, but why should you inject any hormones into your body when you can reach the same by running and eating right and being healthier by doing that as opposed to causing god knows what by injecting.

calm down gloria  ;D

i didn't say i want to try it, but 2 lbs fat loss from abnormal/stubborn fat a day is very impressive.
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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #9 on: April 21, 2009, 07:43:20 AM »
AHAHAHAHA! FEIGE!

oh boy. How old are you? 4?

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #10 on: April 21, 2009, 07:45:34 AM »
oh boy. How old are you? 4?

kein sin fur humor? :'(

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #11 on: April 21, 2009, 07:46:18 AM »
kein sin fur humor? :'(

Humor? Welcher Humor? Der muss bei den Negerkindern im Stall geblieben sein.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #12 on: April 21, 2009, 07:47:54 AM »
Humor? Welcher Humor? Der muss bei den Negerkindern im Stall geblieben sein.

oder du bist nur ein mispot

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #13 on: April 21, 2009, 08:20:10 AM »
its what bb use to increase test production in the testes.

i imagine a weekly shot of test would have the same effect.

just eat less man

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #14 on: April 21, 2009, 08:22:57 AM »

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2009, 08:46:44 AM »
Should call it the Jerk Off 10x a Day and Shag All Night Diet.  HCG will kick your nuts into overdrive.  Aromatization from the increased testosterone production might need to be addressed, desensitization of the testicles to LH (although unlikely at low doses), effects on the hypothalamus, pituitary, and other endocrine bits and pieces might be a concern.

This is something to use to combat hypogonadism or as a cycle adjunct.  I don't see why a LH analogue would do anything for fat loss beyond increasing T level and I never noticed any difference with its use.  I think this guy is just looking to make money and he has wisely chosen a drug which may be minimally effective but which will give you a kick in the pants so you'll believe in it and keep coming back.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2009, 09:52:07 AM »
yip yip - its true and does work.

studies back it  :)

http://www.hcgobesity.org/hcg_obesity.pdf

Abstract
Female obese volunteers participating in a double blind study, and submitted to the administration of an oral presentation of hCG (Human Choriogonadotropin) plus a VLCD (Very Low Calorie Diet), decreased specific body circumferences and skinfold thickness from conspicuous body areas more efficiently than Placebo+VLCD -treated subjects.

Since a significant fat proportion from total body fat is subcutaneously located (50 to 65 percent, depending on sex and fat distribution), this hCG metabolic activity would result in a reduction of the total body fat mass, the main cause for obesity. We suggested that the combination of a VLCD and oral hCG could not only trigger clinically significant changes in subcutaneous fat stores but simultaneously decrease body weight and modelate body contour.

hCG oral administration proved to be a safe and effective procedure on obese treated volunteers. No side effects were observed in the course of the study. There are no reports in the literature regarding this administration route to compare our findings.
Compared to placebo treated subjects, volunteers managed with an oral administration of hCG coped more efficiently with daily irritating situations, were in a better mood, and handled home conflicts without stepping up family discussions.


also this is an oral hcg - where can i buy this  ??? i hate needles  >:(
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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2009, 10:00:53 AM »
I know, but why should you inject any hormones into your body when you can reach the same by running and eating right and being healthier by doing that as opposed to causing god knows what by injecting.

Exactly! People discuss weight loss endlessly, coming up with more and more fancy theories and new recommendations for drug cocktails, when it's a simple thing to achieve by way of eating lesser and doing more work. Fat Panda, do you really need drugs and hormones to lose a bit of fat?

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2009, 10:09:07 AM »
Just drink your chicks piss.
Its alot cheaper.
Most are all show no go!

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2009, 10:49:29 AM »
HCG + GHB + Cocaine + Levitra= 12hrs of sweat drenched, mattress-ruining sex. That's what I heard any way... 
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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2009, 12:35:37 PM »
yip yip - its true and does work.

studies back it  :)

http://www.hcgobesity.org/hcg_obesity.pdf

Abstract
Female obese volunteers participating in a double blind study, and submitted to the administration of an oral presentation of hCG (Human Choriogonadotropin) plus a VLCD (Very Low Calorie Diet), decreased specific body circumferences and skinfold thickness from conspicuous body areas more efficiently than Placebo+VLCD -treated subjects.

Since a significant fat proportion from total body fat is subcutaneously located (50 to 65 percent, depending on sex and fat distribution), this hCG metabolic activity would result in a reduction of the total body fat mass, the main cause for obesity. We suggested that the combination of a VLCD and oral hCG could not only trigger clinically significant changes in subcutaneous fat stores but simultaneously decrease body weight and modelate body contour.

hCG oral administration proved to be a safe and effective procedure on obese treated volunteers. No side effects were observed in the course of the study. There are no reports in the literature regarding this administration route to compare our findings.
Compared to placebo treated subjects, volunteers managed with an oral administration of hCG coped more efficiently with daily irritating situations, were in a better mood, and handled home conflicts without stepping up family discussions.


also this is an oral hcg - where can i buy this  ??? i hate needles  >:(

That presents one sided conclusions for the benefit of http://www.hcgobesity.org.  It is a long way from a proper study as you well know.  I would be interested in seeing the full text.

No sides of any kind?  Less fights with their family?  Wtf.  Alarm bells should be ringing.  This is not a bias free analysis.  Your mind seems made already up but you should take a moment imo.  This is not aspirin no matter how they package it.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2009, 11:03:49 PM »
Just drink your chicks piss.
Its alot cheaper.

If she's pregnant, yes, lol!!

Guys, all kidding aside. HCG is a hormone that occurs in pregnant women. Injecting this and bashing FBB doesn't go along very well.

Just go running, eat jamaican food (i started this a few weeks ago, and it's great) and lift.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2009, 11:08:41 PM »
That presents one sided conclusions for the benefit of http://www.hcgobesity.org.  It is a long way from a proper study as you well know.  I would be interested in seeing the full text.

No sides of any kind?  Less fights with their family?  Wtf.  Alarm bells should be ringing.  This is not a bias free analysis.  Your mind seems made already up but you should take a moment imo.  This is not aspirin no matter how they package it.

Exactly, this is not a proper study to begin with, it was done by the guy running that website...come on.  I've seen this refuted on other sites many times, it's complete bullshit IIRC.

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #23 on: April 22, 2009, 12:00:14 AM »

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Re: new super diet - the hcg diet !
« Reply #24 on: April 22, 2009, 02:55:13 AM »
Exactly! People discuss weight loss endlessly, coming up with more and more fancy theories and new recommendations for drug cocktails, when it's a simple thing to achieve by way of eating lesser and doing more work. Fat Panda, do you really need drugs and hormones to lose a bit of fat?

do you really need steroids to build a bit of muscle ?  ;D

a very low calorie diet is the fastest way to lose weight - this diet seems to do this without the same negatives of doing it naturally due to the hcg. i.e. no cravings, no mood swings, not nutrient depleting, no crash of the thyroid, no weight rebound, and it burns stubborn fat almost exclusively - are you telling me that doesn't sound interesting ?

yes i know how to diet, i have gotten down to 147lbs before at 5' 11". Thats not the point.

the point is with certain drugs you can do things a hell of a lot easier and quicker than the natural way.

i used to think using drugs was the cheats way  ::) now i have grown up.

why waste 4 months when you can do it in 2?

why lift for 10 years to build muscle when a single cycle of test can put the same amount of muscle on you  ::)

this is the first time I've heard of hcg having fat loss properties, however as i have been reading about it, it makes sense, and there has actually been a lot of research into hcg and fat loss it seems.

Exactly, this is not a proper study to begin with, it was done by the guy running that website...come on.  I've seen this refuted on other sites many times, it's complete bullshit IIRC.
yes he's selling oral hcg, and while it may raise suspicions about his honesty, it also raises possibilities and has lead me to other studies  ;)
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