My example is perfectly acceptable - islam (not individual muslims 100% of the time - unless they uphold every aspect of the koran [as they should]) promotes men above women in many aspects, many degrading in our mindset. Not being a muslim but being an misogynist isn't in question, you point serves no purpose other than to show neither party in discussion is perfect.
And how exactly is it a "perfectly acceptable" example? By that line of logic you can just grab any disease and focus it on the Islamic faith. I mean, take your pick: Homsexuality, racism,
et cetera. That's how wrong you are. You mix apples and oranges. Mysginy is a human problem not an Islamic problem.
And yes, Islam does promote men above women, but so do the majority of large religions. Heck, in the Christian faith (in Genesis I believe) women come from a rib of a man for peace sake! Look, do me a favor, you do not have to trust my word at any point, just to a google search for "Islam & misogyny" and "Catholicism & misogyny" and see which one gets more hits. Like I said, you do not have to believe my word, check it out.
I mean, things that really get Westerners upset about radical Islam like the burka and what not... you'd be very surprised that something along those lines was being practised for many years up until very recently (and still today) in Europe: The custom of females wearing black when your husband/dad dies. Up until a few years ago, when carrying the deceased to be buried, the widow used to march in the procession from the house to the cemetery (usually around or near the church) totally covered in black and a thin black veil covering the face. This black-veil-over-the-face practise was eventually stopped, but I am talking about 10-15 years ago. Widows in sourthern Europe STILL wear black and cover their head with a scarf. To this day.
This is in northern Spain
today:
Do you see that little thing on top of their heads? It's nowadays called a
peineta, or comb, but years ago it was The Veil that went over the face of the
beatas (widows), only that, due to the summer's heat and the fact that the processions were usually done at around 10AM to 12PM the heat would get the better of them and eventually the practise was stopped. It's well known fact that this "tradition" was followed well into Franco's time, with beating's included in some small towns to those who decided not to observe the practise. I'm talking 1950-1970 (more or less). Look at Spain nowadays: 9th richest country in the world, with a population of less than 40 million souls. What happened you my ask? The majority of Spaniards told Catholicism to go fuck itself.
And this is just to give you an example. I mean you can pick and choose "women in the workforce", "women in the workplace",
et cetera; a highly misogynist society promoted nonother than "God's Messengers" themselves. And, like I said, this happened until very recently.
Your main point seems to focus on cultural relativism; which is absurd. Simply because (and I agree) that are society isn't 100% equal between the sexes then my position is invalid. It doesn't take a genius to understand and accept my society is much fair to women that the society proposed by islamic law.
But in making such a far-assed observations shouldn't you at the very least define some things first? Out of respect alone. I mean, what is "my society"? Did anyone do a study on the subject or is your "doesn't take a genius to understand and accept" based solely on personal and obviously biased observation? I mean, why do you keep insisting that I take your word as fact? Once you pick apart the points of contention we can then honestly research the data and come to some reasonable conclusion. Until then I think it is perfectly reasonable to regard my schepticism as a valid point (since nothing has been defined) and your conclusiveness (aka your opinion) as questionable.
I will ask again; are you a cultural relativist?
I don't know what a "cultural relativist" is! Look, all I ask of you is to be open minded and not repeat slogans that you read in website x or newspaper y. I'll appreciate it a lot more if your opinion is coming from you and not some blog that you read every morning. Be human, not a robot that takes input from a certain TV station or newspaper alone.
Again, irrelevant unless you propose everyone must debate from a cultural relativists position - which is a fallacy. I'm discussing islam, the ideology so instead of using the atrocities caused by adherents to Christian beliefs why not compare the Christian beliefs? Would Nazism be an atrocity inspired by Christian belief much like aspects of what we know as terrorism are inspired by islamic ideology?
That is OK if you blur the dividing line between what is theory and what is practise. I mean, we can all agree that the Bible and the Koran are merely theory. We can also agree that these "theories" have been taken into practice and permiated their societies to some degrees, some more than others now but others more than some before. Now, if you take practise alone, or what has actually taken place, we can honestly conclude that Christianism is a much more violent, thus dangerous, religion than Islam. Take Bartolomé de las Casas' account (I believe he was a Dominican priest) and his writings about the "conquest" of America (more like take over) and the 90 million deaths, many of them directly attributable to the catholic church or the Spanish inquisition. Doesn't it strike you as "odd" that even such an
intensely secular regime as the Nazis were they did "somehow", when it came time to killing
innocent civilians, found it in their "hearts" to kill and slaughter over what are obvious religious lines (Jews vs non-Jews)? Yes, they did kill many other non-Jews, but they did so because they were Gypsies, communists, union workers,
et cetera; and not because they were Muslim or Buddists or anything else.
Muslims aren't guilty by association... prove to me exactly WHERE I have said that? 
One has to only look at your opinions.
Ha ha, your argument is on shaky ground if you're using POPULAR CULTURE as fact
It wasn't me, it's Wikipedia...
