Dorian had Unmatched Conditioning!

[NarcissisticDeity]

riiiiiight, b/c chromosomes are so large that you can actually see them.

  here we go we're talking about genetics for muscle striations which one can see and the best part is you're sole means of visual inspection is no where near as accurate as actually being there , nevermind the fact that what we do have there is still a disparity between the two i.e pics and video

Dorian Yates has said on multiple occasions he's better conditioned than Ronnie Coleman specifically he's an IFBB judge and has seen both at their best , this renders anything you type moot

[Hulkster]

by the way, when ronnie LOST to cutler and gunter, ronnie still had more striations, but both jay and gunter were harder.

bullshit. who's says they were harder? ronnie looked to be much harder: eg. vs gunter

but lost for other reasons..like being outmassed, distended belly etc.

look:

just when you think you have proven me wrong, a quick glance at reality shows that I am right as always:

[Hulkster]

ha ha ha ha Hulkster owed yet again lol Great post ! so much for striations

see above post.

see ND lumped in with Icecold as one of the dumbest on getbig..

constantly owned by me and reality.

[NarcissisticDeity]

see above post.

see ND lumped in with Icecold as one of the dumbest on getbig..

constantly owned by me and reality.

owned , notice I never once said you were intelligent 

[Hulkster]

owned , notice I never once said you were intelligent 

that was before you went into exile from the truce thread the first time.

when you came back you which much more stupid.

sorry.

[MuscleMcMannus]

Dorian was good in 92 but otherwise was shit. 

This is how it's done homos!

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[NarcissisticDeity]

that was before you went into exile from the truce thread the first time.

when you came back you which much more stupid.

sorry.

you're such a dumbass my position hasn't changed one iota , you're a moron and I've always maintained that I don't have to backpeddle lol I own you kid

[Dballn247]

Can you imagine the gay hate sex that will occur when these two finally meet?   

[NarcissisticDeity]

Dorian was good in 92 but otherwise was shit. 

This is how it's done homos!

&feature=related

good job posting a clip of Kevin from a contest he lost lol

[ASJChaotic]

Another thread, another owning given out by my friend ND 
...am i missing something? nope didn't even have to read it   

[Mr.1derful]

Huckster tainting a Yates thread with Ronnie pics, who would have imagined?     Seriously, if the guy has any friends or family at all, they should be doing an intervention for this loser.

[NarcissisticDeity]

Huckster tainting a Yates thread with Ronnie pics, who would have imagined?     Seriously, if the guy has any friends or family at all, they should be doing an intervention for this loser.

QFT he can't start his own thread he has to hi-jack everyone else

[NarcissisticDeity]

Another thread, another owning given out by my friend ND 
...am i missing something? nope didn't even have to read it   

smart man with a great physique ! 

[Hulkster]

QFT he can't start his own thread he has to hi-jack everyone else

there is a thread for this already.

you know - the one where I humilated you so bad in that you ran away?

yeah, thats the one..the one you lost.

[NarcissisticDeity]

there is a thread for this already.

you know - the one where I humilated you so bad in that you ran away?

yeah, thats the one..the one you lost.

I didn't run away from you ever , I continue to correct you . I ended the truce thread with multiple quotes from Ronnie Coleman at his peak saying he would NEVER beat Dorian , case closed.

I won , hence why you follow me around 

Special Ed : Ronnie of Dorian competed in 1998 would you have smoked him?

Ronnie Coleman : NO I think he would have kept on winning as long as he competed I don't think he would have lost.

Taken out of FLEX nov 1999, page 90.  interview by jim schmaltz with ronnie before the 99 Olympia.

Jim:  What would have happened last year if Dorian Yates (recently retired winner of 6 straight Mr. Olympias) had competed?


Ronnie:  Dorian would have won again.


Jim: You think so?


Ronnie:  I know so.

Boom Hulkster = owned
Truce Thread = ended
Hulkster = never recovered

and to use your own quote against you BOOM

he knows more than you and more than McGough ever will about his own physique..

[Royal Lion]

This is the visual yardstick by which to measure conditioning -- dryness/density.  That is the whole point of this thread.  ND is right in that many of the Doz pics lack quality as they are 12-15 years old magazine scans.  This shot, however, is clear and you can see how dense Dorian is.  Also in this youtube video (see first post) clearly shows that his conditioning is unreal.

[Royal Lion]

 

[Danimal77]

hahaha....Ronnie small and smooth like a baby's butt. LOL.

Dorian really did have poor biceps, thighs and midsection... IT severely detracts from the overall balance of his physique.

[Danimal77]

shawn teaching dorian a lesson about conditioning in 95..

If Shawn was 3-4" taller, he would have been a Mr. Olympia. He really was THAT good and for the most part, was better than Dorian, with exception to 1993 imo.

[Hulkster]

Dorian really did have poor biceps, thighs and midsection... IT severely detracts from the overall balance of his physique.

agreed.

[Hulkster]

ND is right in that many of the Doz pics lack quality as they are 12-15 years old magazine scans.

 

so ND claims many dorian pics lack quality because they are old

and

he also claims that almost all modern Ronnie shots are faked/touched up/oversharpened..

do you see what is happening here?

he has an excuse for everything that shows Ronnie was better and or had better conditioning

classic ad hoc argument

rather than admit what reality shows us, he makes up bullshit "explanations" for why dorian was really better/better conditioned even though all the visuals show he wasn't..

 

[Royal Lion]

agreed.

Ronnie was infamous for having a poor midsection!  He couldn't touch Doz in the overhead ab shot, ever.  Doz's quads look amazing in the B  & W comparison you are referring to.  It is silly to say Ronnie doesn't look good there....he looks unreal and is in superb condition.  Too bad his calves aren't better as it would balance out his legs.

I was not making excuses regarding the quality of pics.  But Hulkster, you are infamous for posting a crystal clear shot of Ronnie in an awesome pose and then comparing it to a blurred pose of Doz to prove Ronnie's superiority.  That is why I have posted the pics I have and the video that I did...because they put into perspective how great Doz was.  You can argue until you're blue in the face that Ronnie was better and many people will agree with you.  It's a toss up as they are the two greatest O's.

Btw....Ray doesn't compare - he gets dwarfed by the bigger guys. Labrada syndrome.

[Hulkster]

Doz's quads look amazing in the B  & W comparison you are referring to. 

hahaa

they have no seperatation at all!

just blobs of ugly mass. no cuts. no detail. bad shape.

big. but piss poor.

[Royal Lion]

Lol...yeah, I'm a gimmick alright 

Have you not noticed my objective statements that give Ronnie his due credit?  I am not going to stoop to saying someone doesn't look good when they do (as you seem to).  Ronnie was incredible and he does not look smooth or small in that comparison pic - saying that is ridiculous.  However, saying Dorian's quads look horrible is just as ridiculous.  His right quad (the flexed one) looks huge and separated to me. 

Read my first few posts...they don't even mention Ronnie or compare him to Dorian.  That is YOUR obsession, not mine.

[Hulkster]

meltdown