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Re: Republicans Claim Top Lawmakers Were in the Loop on Interrogations
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2009, 12:29:59 PM »
This is comical. As I don't think the methods used were illegal or unjustified, I have no quarrel with Pelosi being aware of what was taking place. What is mind boggling to me is the dramatic song and dance that hypocritical liberals try to employ when they are caught with their foot in their mouths. It is an amusing and pathetic display as Pelosi tries to tread water by blaming basically... the entire planet. We saw this same two step shuffle from Dodd, Frank,Geitner,etc. on numerous issues. I'm surprised Pelosi didn't try to blame her "knowledge" on Global Warming or disproportionately high CEO pay.

On minor and meaningless issues, we saw Bill Clinton pull the same bs- I never inhaled, and I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.

I wonder if, and probably when, more democrats are exposed for their actual or tacit authorization of "enhanced interrogation" they will take the road of Roger Clemens and Pete Rose -- Or do the smart thing like Jason Giambi and just fess up.

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Re: Republicans Claim Top Lawmakers Were in the Loop on Interrogations
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2009, 12:49:48 PM »
This is comical. As I don't think the methods used were illegal or unjustified, I have no quarrel with Pelosi being aware of what was taking place. What is mind boggling to me is the dramatic song and dance that hypocritical liberals try to employ when they are caught with their foot in their mouths. It is an amusing and pathetic display as Pelosi tries to tread water by blaming basically... the entire planet. We saw this same two step shuffle from Dodd, Frank,Geitner,etc. on numerous issues. I'm surprised Pelosi didn't try to blame her "knowledge" on Global Warming or disproportionately high CEO pay.

On minor and meaningless issues, we saw Bill Clinton pull the same bs- I never inhaled, and I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky.

I wonder if, and probably when, more democrats are exposed for their actual or tacit authorization of "enhanced interrogation" they will take the road of Roger Clemens and Pete Rose -- Or do the smart thing like Jason Giambi and just fess up.

Pelosi seems up a creek

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Re: Republicans Claim Top Lawmakers Were in the Loop on Interrogations
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2009, 01:55:08 PM »
I pay taxes as well....so I guess I paid myself to have the "most fun u can have with ur cloths on..." My guess is this has never happened to u....


U pay taxes HH6? With what, MY tax money? STFU. 

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Re: Republicans Claim Top Lawmakers Were in the Loop on Interrogations
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2009, 12:26:09 PM »
Gingrich rips into Pelosi
Posted: 01:20 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney

(CNN) — House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is engaging in a "despicable, dishonest and vicious political effort" to withhold what she knew about the CIA's aggressive interrogation techniques, Newt Gingrich said Friday, in what amounts to the harshest criticism yet leveled at the California Democrat.

In an interview with ABC Radio, the former House Speaker said Pelosi flat-out "lied to the House" when she earlier claimed the CIA had never briefed her about the Bush administration's use of aggressive interrogation techniques including waterboarding.

"I think that the House has an absolute obligation to open an inquiry, and I hope there will be a resolution to investigate her. And I think this is a big deal. I don't think the Speaker of the House can lie to the country on national security matters," Gingrich said.

Pelosi has been under fire from critics who say that she was fully briefed on the techniques in 2002 and 2003.  On Thursday, the California Democrat accused CIA officials of misleading her, reiterating an earlier claim that she was briefed on such techniques only once — in September 2002 — and that she was told at the time that the techniques were not being used.

Pelosi also said the briefing she received from the CIA was incomplete and inaccurate, and she called on the CIA to release a full transcript of the briefing. She also accused Republicans of jumping on reports of the briefings to cause a distraction.

"She is a trivial politician, viciously using partisanship for the narrowest of purposes, and she dishonors the Congress by her behavior," Gingrich also said in the blistering interview.

Earlier: Source: Aide told Pelosi waterboarding had been used

"Speaker Pelosi's the big loser, because she either comes across as incompetent, or dishonest. Those are the only two defenses," he continued. "The fact is, she either didn't do her job, or she did do her job and she's now afraid to tell the truth."

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Re: Republicans Claim Top Lawmakers Were in the Loop on Interrogations
« Reply #29 on: May 18, 2009, 01:12:08 PM »
Republicans to Pelosi: Prove Your Case or Apologize to CIA
House Minority Leader John Boehner told FOX News that lying to Congress is a crime, so if Speaker Nancy Pelosi thinks agency officials did so, she needs to present evidence and have the Justice Department prosecute it or apologize for casting aspersions.

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Monday, May 18, 2009

It's week two and Republicans aren't about to let House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's accusation that the CIA lied to Congress slip between the cracks.

House Minority Leader John Boehner told FOX News on Monday that "the ball is in the speaker's court." If she is accusing the CIA of lying, she "needs to come forward, either present evidence or do an apology, and let's get this behind us."

"Lying to Congress is a crime. Purposely misleading Congress is a crime. And if the speaker is accusing the intelligence community of lying to her or purposefully misleading her, then she ought to present that evidence, turn it over to the Justice Department, have them prosecute it," Boehner said.

But Boehner did not call for Pelosi's ouster.

"Let's not get too far down the road here. I'm not going to take anything off the table, but I do believe that -- that the ball is in her court. And she has to either put up or have an apology and move on," he said.

Pelosi caused a stir last week when she accused the CIA of misleading Congress about its use of enhanced interrogation techniques on terror detainees, particularly on Abu Zubaydah.

"Yes I am saying the CIA was misleading the Congress, and at the same time the (Bush) administration was misleading the Congress on weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, to which I said that this intelligence doesn't support the imminent threat," Pelosi said at her weekly news conference on Thursday.

"Every step of the way the administration was misleading the Congress and that is the issue and that's why we need a truth commission," she said.

On Friday, CIA Director Leon Panetta issued a letter to CIA staff repeating his statement of a day earlier that the agency's response to congressional inquiries shows that "our contemporaneous records from September 2002 indicate that CIA officers briefed truthfully on the interrogation of Abu Zubaydah, describing 'the enhanced techniques that had been employed.' Ultimately, it is up to Congress to evaluate all the evidence and reach its own conclusions about what happened."

"I think that it's pretty clear that Mr. Panetta and the CIA believe that they were truthful in their briefings to Ms. Pelosi. There's been no reason to lie," Boehner said Monday.

According to a Rasmussen poll out on Monday, 43 percent of voters nationwide say they believe the CIA could have misled Pelosi about the use of waterboarding while 41 percent said that's unlikely. The belief and disbelief tracked closely with political party affiliation.

The poll of 1,000 likely voters taken over the weekend has a 3 percent margin of error. In it, 58 percent said they don't want any probes of how the Bush administration treated terrorism suspects.

Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., said that Pelosi either needs to prove her case or apologize.

"If indeed Nancy Pelosi has lied, which it seems to me that she has, then she either needs to resign or at the very least have a public and open apology to the CIA," Franks said.

Franks then accused Democrats, including Pelosi, of constantly undermining the Bush administration for political points.

"They held themselves completely unconstrained to the truth in all of those debates and it was I think damaging to our country and damaging to our national security, and it seems like now that they are in the supermajority, they've completely disinvited the truth from the entire discussion," Franks said.

"We could be facing nuclear jihad in the coming years, and being able to rely on what people say is of more and more importance to the American people," he added.

Franks acknowledged that for now it's more advantageous to Republicans for Pelosi to stay in office.

"Politically it might be better for us if she stays in because I think she's lost credibility with the American people, and it's easier for us to point out some of the foibles of the Democrat leadership with her in the leadership," he said.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/05/18/republicans-pelosi-prove-case-apologize-cia/

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Re: Republicans Claim Top Lawmakers Were in the Loop on Interrogations
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2009, 01:35:41 PM »
Democrats circling the wagons.

House Rejects Probe Into Pelosi CIA Claims

Thursday, May 21, 2009 12:55 PM

House Democrats on Thursday defeated a Republican push to investigate House Speaker Nancy Pelosi's claims that the CIA misled her in 2002 about whether waterboarding had been used against terrorism suspects.

The House voted 252-172 to block the measure that would have created a bipartisan congressional panel. Rep. Rob Bishop, R-Utah, sponsored the resolution.

"This is partisan politics and an attempt by the Republicans to distract from the real issue of creating jobs and making progress on health care, energy and education," said Pelosi spokesman Nadeam Elshami.

Pelosi was not present at the time of the vote. Republicans called for the vote on Thursday, while she was giving a commencement speech at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore.

Earlier this month, Pelosi told reporters that she had not been told that waterboarding had been used against terrorism suspects, even though it had been. President Barack Obama and human rights groups have said waterboarding, which simulates drowning, is torture.

"To have this charge out there and not have it resolved I think is damaging to our intelligence efforts, and certainly will have a chilling effect on our intelligence professionals around the world," said House Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney also stepped into the debate.

In a speech at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, Cheney said Pelosi and other lawmakers had been briefed on the interrogation techniques on "numerous occasions."

"In my long experience in Washington, few matters have inspired so much contrived indignation and phony moralizing as the interrogation methods applied to a few captured terrorists," Cheney said.

Pelosi has asked the CIA to declassify information supporting her claims.

The CIA has sent lawmakers its notes and memos on 40 congressional briefings on the interrogation techniques. But that document has been found to include several errors.

CIA Director Leon Panetta acknowledged in a May 6 letter to House Intelligence Committee Chairman Silvestre Reyes, D-Texas, that the CIA's list may not be completely accurate.

"In the end, you and the committee will have to determine whether this information is an accurate summary of what actually happened," Panetta wrote.

Democrats are pointing out that Republicans too have accused the CIA of misleading them on intelligence matters. Boehner himself called into question the soundness of the intelligence community when it determined in 2007 that Tehran had halted its nuclear weapons program.

Boehner told reporters on Thursday that it was an unfair comparison because he never accused the men and women of the intelligence community of misleading Congress.

Boehner defended harsh interrogations.

"I don't believe the enhanced interrogation techniques were wrong," he said.
 
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/pelosi_torture_probe/2009/05/21/216894.html