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Obama Leaps To Socialism
« on: April 23, 2009, 03:00:10 PM »
This is the best thing for america at this point...Clearly DEMOCRACY DOES NOT WORK!!!! and CAPITALISM HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE DISASTER FOR AMERICA(NS).

Try SOCIALISM...It can not be worst than what you have had so far...

Obama’s leap to socialism 
By Dick Morris 
Posted: 04/21/09 05:21 PM [ET] 
President Obama showed his hand this week when The New York Times wrote that he is considering converting the stock the government owns in our country’s banks from preferred stock, which it now holds, to common stock.

This seemingly insignificant change is momentous. It means that the federal government will control all of the major banks and financial institutions in the nation. It means socialism.

The Times dutifully dressed up the Obama plan as a way to avoid asking Congress for more money for failing banks. But the implications of the proposal are obvious to anyone who cares to look.

When the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) intervention was first outlined by the Bush administration, it did not call for any transfer of stock, of any sort, to the government. The Democrats demanded, as a price for their support, that the taxpayers “get something back” for the money they were lending to the banks. House Republicans, wise to what was going on, rejected the administration’s proposal and sought, instead, to provide insurance to banks, rather than outright cash. Their plan would, of course, not involve any transfer of stock. But Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) undercut his own party’s conservatives and went along with the Democratic plan, ensuring its passage.

But to avoid the issue of a potential for government control of the banks, everybody agreed that the stock the feds would take back in return for their money would be preferred stock, not common stock. “Preferred” means that these stockholders get the first crack at dividends, but only common stockholders can actually vote on company management or policy. Now, by changing this fundamental element of the TARP plan, Obama will give Washington a voting majority among the common stockholders of these banks and other financial institutions. The almost 500 companies receiving TARP money will be, in effect, run by Washington.

And whoever controls the banks controls the credit and, therefore, the economy. That’s called socialism.

Obama is dressing up the idea of the switch to common stock by noting that the conversion would provide the banks with capital they could use without a further taxpayer appropriation. While this is true, it flies in the face of the fact that an increasing number of big banks and brokerage houses are clamoring to give back the TARP money. Goldman-Sachs, for example, wants to buy back its freedom, as do many banks. Even AIG is selling off assets to dig its way out from under federal control. The reason, of course, is that company executives do not like the restrictions on executive pay and compensation that come with TARP money. It is for this reason that Chrysler Motors refused TARP funds.

With bank profits up and financial institutions trying to give back their money, there is no need for the conversion of the government stock from preferred to common — except to advance the political socialist agenda of this administration.

Meanwhile, to keep its leverage over the economy intact, the Obama administration is refusing to let banks and other companies give back the TARP money until they pass a financial “stress test.” Nominally, the government justifies this procedure by saying that it does not want companies to become fully private prematurely and then need more help later on. But don’t believe it. They want to keep the TARP money in the banks so they can have a reason and rationale to control them.

The Times story did not influence the dialogue of the day. People were much more concerned with the death of 21 horses at a polo match. Much as we will miss these noble animals, we will miss our economic freedom more.
 
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 03:01:19 PM »
Yeah...ur right...the largest economy and prosperity in world history, has been a disaster. Wow ur an idiot.
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 03:03:08 PM »
I am a SOCIALIST. OBAMA IS NOT a Socialist.  Not even close. Stop trying to put him in our category.

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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2009, 03:04:32 PM »
Yeah...ur right...the largest economy and prosperity in world history, has been a disaster. Wow ur an idiot.

YES...It is so large and PROSPEROUS that you have beeen begging CHina for BILLIONS every month for many years....and what about your prosperity now!!!!!  HAHAHAHAAH..all of you americans will be lookling very GAUNT in a few more months as your FOOD RUNS OUT!!!!...Then I will have a good laugh.
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 03:06:47 PM »
I don't know SAMSON....just dropped a few hundred on groceries and bought another gun. Come on over, I need to feed the dogs.
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2009, 03:07:09 PM »
It's been proven time and time again socialism doesn't work.

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2009, 03:07:57 PM »
I don't know SAMSON....just dropped a few hundred on groceries and bought another gun. Come on over, I need to feed the dogs.

Careful with your spending...that unemployment check is about to run out for you...what will you do then???
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2009, 03:09:22 PM »
It's been proven time and time again socialism doesn't work.

and democracy and capitalism does?????
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« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2009, 03:09:59 PM »
Yes, for over 200 years now.

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« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2009, 03:10:36 PM »
Yes, for over 200 years now.

Pretty poor end result...
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2009, 03:12:11 PM »
Careful with your spending...that unemployment check is about to run out for you...what will you do then???

Bud...as long as people are pulling triggers somewhere...I'll have a job. Hell I might even be visiting whatever shithole ur from. My job and postion are guaranteed by Congress.
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2009, 03:13:44 PM »
Bud...as long as people are pulling triggers somewhere...I'll have a job. Hell I might even be visiting whatever shithole ur from. My job and postion are guaranteed by Congress.

CONgress can not guarantee to honor the constitution so why would they be concerned about you!!!!!????...lolololol
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2009, 03:20:06 PM »
As u have no idea what I'm, talking about...forget it. Just be prepared for my boot on ur neck...sometime soon. I'm sure ur country has done something to piss us off.  ;D
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Re: Obama Leaps To Socialism
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2009, 03:25:31 PM »
As u have no idea what I'm, talking about...forget it. Just be prepared for my boot on ur neck...sometime soon. I'm sure ur country has done something to piss us off.  ;D

I declare it sounds like you're defeated!! Yes... You mean HH6 the great has hiked up his skirt and high tailed it off to the hills??? Naw... you come back here BITCH and finish this fight!!!...YOU HEAR ME!!!!!!
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