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Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« on: April 27, 2009, 04:25:53 PM »
Reason I'm asking because some people don't know shit about gaining muscle mass. Some people think you have to be lean and have visible abs to gain muscle mass, which I think is fucking retarded. Can a pro or somebody educated answer this please?

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 04:34:42 PM »
abs > everything else, FTW

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 04:41:03 PM »
abs > everything else, FTW

Agreed. I can't build mass when cutting and getting thin. But i'd much rather have abs then add a little mass. There will always be people bigger than me, but i can look better than everyone else at the gym if i get cut.

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 04:41:34 PM »
yes you can. You can also lose fat and buikld muscle at the same time.

I am by no means ripped. But have abs year round and am gaining

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2009, 04:57:52 PM »
9-10% while gain muscle is very doable IMO

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2009, 05:02:15 PM »
Yes u can
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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #6 on: April 27, 2009, 05:10:28 PM »
Hahaha monster thread backfire for the obese CastIron.
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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #7 on: April 27, 2009, 05:12:45 PM »
abs > everything else, FTW

I went to the gym early today and there were a ton of hot girls, and all i could think was these bitches could give a shit if i upped my bench from 305 to 315, but if they were walking by and I used my shirt to wipe my face and revealed a perfect set of abs they'd get wet as hell.

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2009, 05:34:18 PM »
I went to the gym early today and there were a ton of hot girls, and all i could think was these bitches could give a shit if i upped my bench from 305 to 315, but if they were walking by and I used my shirt to wipe my face and revealed a perfect set of abs they'd get wet as hell.

next time use some gym bunny's inner thigh to wipe your face off

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2009, 05:41:05 PM »
Reason I'm asking because some people don't know shit about gaining muscle mass. Some people think you have to be lean and have visible abs to gain muscle mass, which I think is fucking retarded. Can a pro or somebody educated answer this please?

ofcourse you can, you don't have to become obese to gain muscle
if you want to have a huge LBM all you have to do is eat your ass off and get fatter than holly hell
you don't even have to workout
Sumo wrestlers have more LBM than bodybuilders
once if ever you do get lean you will disappear, you will keep the muscle, it was there because you were so fat
you'll be lucky if you don't have any loose skin
look at this woman, she is beating you in your own "criteria" and she has never touched a weight ROFLMAO!

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2009, 05:42:34 PM »
Sumo wrestlers have more LBM than bodybuilders

Are we indeed talking muscles here? I call monster bullshit.
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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2009, 05:44:47 PM »
Are we indeed talking muscles here? I call monster bullshit.

seriously, look at the source of the quote you are calling bullshit on

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2009, 05:45:35 PM »
johnnynoname is the shit!

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2009, 05:46:10 PM »
seriously, look at the source of the quote you are calling bullshit on

Oh right, missed that...
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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2009, 05:46:23 PM »
Are we indeed talking muscles here? I call monster bullshit.

it's not that hard, if you want 250 pounds of lean mass just eat yourself to 450 pounds
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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2009, 05:46:44 PM »
Love to hate, pathetic lol. I always think why hardly no IFBB pros post here. Maybe one or two, the most I've seen that post on Getbig is Chick. People on Getbigs a joke.

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2009, 05:47:09 PM »
Many years ago the top trainers among competitive bodybuilders would advise that you drop your bodyfat way low prior to adding muscle mass.

That seemed to work well back then but then Larry Scott game on the competitive bodybuilding scene and "blew up" to a bulky, off-season, bodywt exceeding 15 - 20% of his competitive weigh and everyone else seemed to follow.

I'm not too positive about this but I kind of recall that Larry Scott first took his bodywt way beyond his competitive wt beginning around 1963/64 and it worked well for him, and that was the beginning of the pre-planned, off season, bulked up phase for competitive bodybuilders.

If any old-fart GetBigger was actually there and witnessed this "new" way to prep back then .... your pro or con comments would be appreciated. I tend to recall that Larry was the start of it all back then.

BTW ... Great question, Cast!

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2009, 05:47:37 PM »
Oh right, missed that...


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Did you know that sumo wrestlers generally have more muscle mass then natural bodybuilders? Caloric intake is key to muscle growth, clean or dirty.

And keep in mind, this advice is generally not for seasoned lifters. They know what works for them. I run into many lifting newbs on forums who swear they are eating enough and simply can't gain muscle or weight.

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2009, 05:48:48 PM »
Bulking for a natural is absolutely pointless
any great natural will tell you this, you will be a fat mess and skinny fat when you diet down

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2009, 05:49:33 PM »
it's not that hard, if you want 250 pounds of lean mass just eat yourself to 450 pounds
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Ok so you're seriously suggesting that it's all about caloric intake and not hormonal levels?
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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2009, 05:50:25 PM »
Love to hate, pathetic lol. I always think why hardly no IFBB pros post here. Maybe one or two, the most I've seen that post on Getbig is Chick. People on Getbigs a joke.

they couldn't take the heat
by the looks of it, neither can you, kid.

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2009, 05:51:49 PM »
Ok so you're seriously suggesting that it's all about caloric intake and not hormonal levels?

NO, you are not getting my point my friend

all I said was if you want something like a 250 pound LBM eat yourself so fat you can't even move
once you get down it wont be there and you will be left with extra skin

all these people think their fat is muscle lmao
look at these triceps

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2009, 05:57:37 PM »
NO, you are not getting my point my friend

all I said was if you want something like a 250 pound LBM eat yourself so fat you can't even move
once you get down it wont be there and you will be left with extra skin

all these people think their fat is muscle lmao
look at these triceps

Why are you making the assumption that the lean muscle mass increases beyond your natural limit just because you are obese?

You said earlier 250lbs of lean body mass, you do realize that's on par with a 98' Ronnie?
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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2009, 05:58:53 PM »
Reason I'm asking because some people don't know shit about gaining muscle mass. Some people think you have to be lean and have visible abs to gain muscle mass, which I think is fucking retarded. Can a pro or somebody educated answer this please?

where did you go?
LMAO

why don't you explain to me why this woman (according to you you) has more muscle mass than you without ever having touched a weight  ;D

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Re: Can you gain muscle mass being lean?
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2009, 06:01:18 PM »
Why are you making the assumption that the lean muscle mass increases beyond your natural limit just because you are obese?

You said earlier 250lbs of lean body mass, you do realize that's on par with a 98' Ronnie?

are you telling me that this guy doesn't have 250lbs of lean body mass?  ;D
LBM is not just pure muscle, it's everything but fat