Can you gain muscle mass being lean?

[johnnynoname]

epic trademark posting of pics in effort to prove a point

[lovemonkey]

are you telling me that this guy doesn't have 250lbs of lean body mass? 
LBM is not just pure muscle, it's everything but fat

Yes and a 98' Coleman weighed roughly 245-250lbs in contest shape including bones, organs, skin, fluids etc. My argument still holds.

[CastIron]

People like yah are dumb asses and you'll never realize this. Bunch of dumb motherfuckers, I'm done with yah.

[Deicide]

Fat loss and muscle gain are completely different metabolic processes, one involved a calorie deficit, the other a surplus; if you are natural, you cannot gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

[ASJChaotic]

Fat loss and muscle gain are completely different metabolic processes, one involved a calorie deficit, the other a surplus; if you are natural, you cannot gain muscle and lose fat at the same time.

 

gaining muscle is a factor of working out not a factor of eating
if it was not, then every body in america would be muscular instead of fat 

[ASJChaotic]

People like yah are dumb asses and you'll never realize this. Bunch of dumb motherfuckers, I'm done with yah.

 

[Ursus]

i am sick of these silly AXA threads

[ASJChaotic]

i am sick of these silly AXA threads

 

i didn't start this thread

[Ursus]

its not so much you but same stupid pics posted over and over again

[ASJChaotic]

its not so much you but same stupid pics posted over and over again

well, some people just learn better with pictures 

epic trademark posting of pics in effort to prove a point

[Ursus]

tis very boring. have an AXA/castiron fued thread or summat

[Red Hook]

9-10% while gain muscle is very doable IMO

you are not a natty, different rules my friend

[ASJChaotic]

tis very boring. have an AXA/castiron fued thread or summat

perhaps this will put a smile on your face   

[Ursus]

you are not a natty, different rules my friend

not different i don think. just takes patiance

[Red Hook]

not different i don think. just takes patiance

first thing first, how many natties do you see running around < 10% BF..second how many of those do you see making gains while being < 10% BF?

[BB]

Naturally I think the best zone is probably around 15%bf(give take a couple of points either way) for gaining size and strength, and it's a percentage that is easily maintainable and you can look decent at.

Now if you want to get very strong naturally, you'll probably have to go at it Ditillo or Bruce Randall style. Pork out, then cut. 

[camelisator]

all year around i can see my abs and i keep gaining mass and strength, i dont know exactly my bodyfat % but its probably around 10 to 12.

[Red Hook]

all year around i can see my abs and i keep gaining mass and strength, i dont know exactly my bodyfat % but its probably around 10 to 12.

pic or it didn't happen

[camelisator]

pic or it didn't happen

me at 200@5'10

[BIG_STI]

me at 200@5'10

BS that's a 180lbs tops

[camelisator]

BS that's a 180lbs tops

haha i dont care if you dont belive me but its 197 

[RZA]

gaining muscle is a factor of working out not a factor of eating
if it was not, then every body in america would be muscular instead of fat 

Wrong because incomplete. An Anabolic state means you have some nutriments in excess in your system that are going to be processed to create extra muscular tissue. Whie theoretically it would be possible to gain muscle while losing fat, it's practically impossible except in the first stages of working out when  your hormonal systemgets a huge boost. As a natural, you will plateau sooner or later (sooner more likely). At one point, unless you're a chemist calculating protein, carbs and fats to the milligram, you'll need to add at least a little fat to gain a little muscle.