4/30/09 Swine Flu Skeptic Ron Paul on ABC: The Sky Isn't Falling!

[Hugo Chavez]

RP was well received on Bill Maher.  Beck seemed to warm up to Ron after a couple interviews.

Beck just called him a nut recently.

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Fox News is responsible for RP not becoming president?  lol . . . .

No, people like you are...

[Hugo Chavez]

do you know different? 

[Hugo Chavez]

Fox News is responsible for RP not becoming president?  lol . . . .

They sure helped more than anyone else.

[Hugo Chavez]

No, people like you are...

People like him would have gave him a more serious look if he hadn't been so villianized by Fox News.

[Dos Equis]

No, people like you are...

Ding!  The first accurate thing you've said all day. 

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Ding!  The first accurate thing you've said all day. 

Exactly...you just vote for people who love spending, war and do not represent the people! Good on you!

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do you know different? 

He recently said that he wouldn't rule it out though in 3+ years much could change.

[Dos Equis]

Exactly...you just vote for people who love spending, war and do not represent the people! Good on you!

Nah.  I just vote for one of the candidates who I think will make the better president.  Do you vote and did you vote in this last election? 

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Nah.  I just vote for one of the candidates who I think will make the better president.  Do you vote and did you vote in this last election? 

Yes, I wrote Ron Paul's name in on an absentee ballot.

[240 is Back]

BB = sadly, what's wrong with the repub party.

A complete refusal to admit FOX shat all over RP during the primaries.

Denial like this is why only 21% of Americans claim to be Repub, why Specter just jumped parties, and why 2010 is going to be yet another clock-cleaning for anyone with an (R) by their name.

Keep on rolling eyes and LOL'ing.  The dems just get bigger and stronger, the longer you sit in denial.  Palin is the most qualified Repub, RP sucks, and FOX news is the only honest media out there... yet your numbers are shrinking.  Odd?

[Dos Equis]

Yes, I wrote Ron Paul's name in on an absentee ballot.

On your absentee presidential ballot? 

[Dos Equis]

BB = sadly, what's wrong with the repub party.

A complete refusal to admit FOX shat all over RP during the primaries.

Denial like this is why only 21% of Americans claim to be Repub, why Specter just jumped parties, and why 2010 is going to be yet another clock-cleaning for anyone with an (R) by their name.

Keep on rolling eyes and LOL'ing.  The dems just get bigger and stronger, the longer you sit in denial.  Palin is the most qualified Repub, RP sucks, and FOX news is the only honest media out there... yet your numbers are shrinking.  Odd?

Except BB isn't a Republican.   

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Except BB isn't a Republican.   

What then are you? A Christian?

[Dos Equis]

What then are you? A Christian?

Yes and proud of it.     Politically, I'm an independent.  I'll vote for a person, regardless of party, if I think they're the best candidate.   

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Yes and proud of it.     Politically, I'm an independent.  I'll vote for a person, regardless of party, if I think they're the best candidate.   

So why didn't you vote for Ron Paul?

[Dos Equis]

So why didn't you vote for Ron Paul?

Because he wasn’t on the ballot, had no chance of being elected, and I didn't want to waste my vote with some write-in candidate. 

I like Ron Paul, but he never had a legitimate shot be president.  Will never happen.  And it has nothing to do with Fox News.   

[Hugo Chavez]

Because he wasn’t on the ballot, had no chance of being elected, and I didn't want to waste my vote with some write-in candidate. 

I like Ron Paul, but he never had a legitimate shot be president.  Will never happen.  And it has nothing to do with Fox News.   

really, they were pretty hostile to Ron Paul right out of the gate and all the way through.  Not sure how you can say it had nothing to do with Fox News since so many republicans would have been introduced to the guy as a candidate through Fox. 

[headhuntersix]

BB = sadly, what's wrong with the repub party.

A complete refusal to admit FOX shat all over RP during the primaries.

Denial like this is why only 21% of Americans claim to be Repub, why Specter just jumped parties, and why 2010 is going to be yet another clock-cleaning for anyone with an (R) by their name.

Keep on rolling eyes and LOL'ing.  The dems just get bigger and stronger, the longer you sit in denial.  Palin is the most qualified Repub, RP sucks, and FOX news is the only honest media out there... yet your numbers are shrinking.  Odd?

Stronger......ur kidding right. This stuff swings constantly.....Obama is spending us into the ground. He's more popular then his policies...how long can that last. Its been 100 days....

[Dos Equis]

really, they were pretty hostile to Ron Paul right out of the gate and all the way through.  Not sure how you can say it had nothing to do with Fox News since so many republicans would have been introduced to the guy as a candidate through Fox. 

Had zero to do with him not winning a single primary.  Fox News doesn't have the power to create or eliminate a legitimate presidential candidate.  His problems are much deeper than Fox News.  He doesn't have the charisma or public persona to win a presidential election.  He comes across as whiny when he debates.  He doesn't appear very likeable.  His delivery when making speeches is not very good.  I know that is all about form over substance, but form over substance is what is largely responsible for our current president.  If he could give speeches like Obama he would have done much better.     

[Hugo Chavez]

Had zero to do with him not winning a single primary.  Fox News doesn't have the power to create or eliminate a legitimate presidential candidate.  His problems are much deeper than Fox News.  He doesn't have the charisma or public persona to win a presidential election.  He comes across as whiny when he debates.  He doesn't appear very likeable.  His deliver when making speeches is not very good.  I know that is all about form over substance, but form over substance is what is largely responsible for our current president.  If he could give speeches like Obama he would have done much better.     

I'm not going to say that if Fox didn't railroad Ron Paul from day one that he would have won the nomination.  That depends on what kind of moment he would have gained and we just can't tell that for sure now.  But I will say they hurt him enough that he didn't have a chance to see if he could build that momentum.  Are you honestly shocked that the media can effect elections?  The accusation has been out there in a major way on both the left and right for a long time.  It's now a shocker because Ron Paul's name comes up?  I mean you cannot deny that Fox News was not friendly to Ron Paul whatsoever.  There's a jillion videos on this all over the net.  IMO Fox saw to it that he didn't have much of a chance at gaining momentum enough to win. If the negative seeds were not placed in the Fox Sheeple, they might have listened to him without bias.  I'm saying Fox planted Bias, they do it all the time.  others do too, but Fox excels.

[Dos Equis]

I'm not going to say that if Fox didn't railroad Ron Paul from day one that he would have won the nomination.  That depends on what kind of moment he would have gained and we just can't tell that for sure now.  But I will say they hurt him enough that he didn't have a chance to see if he could build that momentum.  Are you honestly shocked that the media can effect elections?  The accusation has been out there in a major way on both the left and right for a long time.  It's now a shocker because Ron Paul's name comes up?  I mean you cannot deny that Fox News was not friendly to Ron Paul whatsoever.  There's a jillion videos on this all over the net.  IMO Fox saw to it that he didn't have much of a chance at gaining momentum enough to win. If the negative seeds were not placed in the Fox Sheeple, they might have listened to him without bias.  I'm saying Fox planted Bias, they do it all the time.  others do too, but Fox excels.

Yes the media affects the outcome of elections.  Buying a 30 minute infomercial that is run on almost every major network on the eve of the election is one example.  The media asking softball questions and fawning all over a candidate is another example.   

But even if what you say is true about Fox and Ron Paul, I doubt there was any sort of concerted effort by CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, and/or C-SPAN to "railroad" him.  He had plenty of opportunities to campaign, raise money, and participate in national debates.   

The reality is that Ron Paul isn't electable.  Unfortunately, you need more than good ideas to be a legitimate national contender.     

[Hugo Chavez]

Yes the media affects the outcome of elections.  Buying a 30 minute infomercial that is run on almost every major network on the eve of the election is one example.  The media asking softball questions and fawning all over a candidate is another example.   

But even if what you say is true about Fox and Ron Paul, I doubt there was any sort of concerted effort by CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, MSNBC, and/or C-SPAN to "railroad" him.  He had plenty of opportunities to campaign, raise money, and participate in national debates.   

The reality is that Ron Paul isn't electable.  Unfortunately, you need more than good ideas to be a legitimate national contender.     

Concerted effort by the others?  No, they didn't talk about him that much, hardly at all.  Fox is the only one that seemed to go out of their way to make the guy look bad.

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2012

[OzmO]

Concerted effort by the others?  No, they didn't talk about him that much, hardly at all.  Fox is the only one that seemed to go out of their way to make the guy look bad.

Did they go out of their to make Obama look bad too?